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Post by showtoones on May 23, 2017 6:07:52 GMT
Is this Cynthia Erivo, 'star' of "I Can't Sing"? OK great. 🙄 THE SHADE! next thing you are going to do is tell me Cynthia was up for Effie! |
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Post by BurlyBeaR on May 23, 2017 6:18:06 GMT
Is this Cynthia Erivo, 'star' of "I Can't Sing"? OK great. 🙄 THE SHADE! next thing you are going to do is tell me Cynthia was up for Effie! She wasn't ready... |
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Post by SageStageMgr on May 23, 2017 7:04:24 GMT
She seems like a right miserable cow
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Post by richey on May 24, 2017 8:52:36 GMT
Don't know if any of you have seen this. Gave me a chuckle when someone sent it to me
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Post by shady23 on May 25, 2017 16:05:52 GMT
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Post by ali973 on May 29, 2017 3:38:38 GMT
I can confirm that Glenn's final I'll be M(aaaay) is canned and pre-recorded.
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Post by BurlyBeaR on May 29, 2017 9:33:34 GMT
I can confirm that Glenn's final I'll be M(aaaay) is canned and pre-recorded. I demand to be shown your sources for this heresy! 😑 |
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Post by ali973 on May 29, 2017 11:33:09 GMT
Well I've been told about it, then I just saw it yesterday from the front row. I couldn't tell from With One Look, but because I was looking for it, I saw it at the finale. Sound wise, it's done perfectly and you really would not be able to tell just by listening. It was just a matter of a delay in her miming the word vs the sound pumping through.
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Post by BurlyBeaR on May 29, 2017 12:23:13 GMT
Oh go on then... if you say so  And how was the show? What was the audience reaction?. |
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Post by ali973 on May 29, 2017 12:43:02 GMT
The show is a tiny bit different than the ENO in London.
There is a art deco backdrop behind the orchestra whenever we are in Norma's mansions. Also, some parts of the set are lit differently in Norma's mansion than they were in London.
During the car chase scene, when the Sunset Boulevard street sign is projected, the ENO version only had that single logo/street sign enlarged, whereas in this version there are multiples of it flashing all across the screen.
They use a new car on Norma's return to Paramount.
Some orchestral changes from ENO...On Norma's journey to paramount, the music is now more march-like than the normal sounding theme ("if you're with me, next year will be.."). Also, the Joe/Betty scenes at Schwab's and pre-Too Much In Love to Care are slightly re-orchestrated.
Overall the show is fabulous. I think Xavier was by far more tolerable here than he was in London. He's less jazz hands and tress less hard to be funny. Siobhan is gorgeous looking and sounding. Max is great as always. I think the London ensemble was a bit stronger, and I liked the ENO DeMille a lot better.
Standing ovation for As If We Never Said Goodbye.
I should add that this was the former final performance prior to the extension to June 25th. I would have loved to see it again, but I'm fully committed to other shows during the week. Can't wait to see the UK tour though. Have to figure where and when to see it as soon as I go back home.
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Post by BurlyBeaR on May 30, 2017 19:14:35 GMT
You're good Ali. Detail. You're very good.
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Post by chernjam on Jun 1, 2017 4:30:59 GMT
The show is a tiny bit different than the ENO in London. There is a art deco backdrop behind the orchestra whenever we are in Norma's mansions. Also, some parts of the set are lit differently in Norma's mansion than they were in London. During the car chase scene, when the Sunset Boulevard street sign is projected, the ENO version only had that single logo/street sign enlarged, whereas in this version there are multiples of it flashing all across the screen. They use a new car on Norma's return to Paramount. Some orchestral changes from ENO...On Norma's journey to paramount, the music is now more march-like than the normal sounding theme ("if you're with me, next year will be.."). Also, the Joe/Betty scenes at Schwab's and pre-Too Much In Love to Care are slightly re-orchestrated. Overall the show is fabulous. I think Xavier was by far more tolerable here than he was in London. He's less jazz hands and tress less hard to be funny. Siobhan is gorgeous looking and sounding. Max is great as always. I think the London ensemble was a bit stronger, and I liked the ENO DeMille a lot better. Standing ovation for As If We Never Said Goodbye. I should add that this was the former final performance prior to the extension to June 25th. I would have loved to see it again, but I'm fully committed to other shows during the week. Can't wait to see the UK tour though. Have to figure where and when to see it as soon as I go back home. Ali - loved reading your review/comparing it to ENO. It really does seem ALW did a lot of work on the orchestrations. It's breaking my heart that they're not re-recording this with that lush new sound...I've already gone three times and hope to hit it at least once more before it leaves NY (although there's some strong rumors that there might be a return engagement in LA after New Years) Honestly found the entire cast superb... which was a pleasant surprise after reading some review on here Perhaps the extra time really gave them the opportunity to grow into the roles. As for Glenn's final note being recorded - I really don't believe that to be the case. The third time I went to see Sunset, she was still fighting her sinus infection. Coughed/cleared her throat at one point during As If We Never Said Goodbye and definitely talked-sung more than she did the other two times. And her ending was a bit more restrained. So, I don't know - I don't really think that's happened. |
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Post by mosiemo on Jun 20, 2017 10:10:45 GMT
I saw this twice at the weekend and if possible loved it more than before. Since April there have been some small changes, when Norma first appears her hair is slightly dishevelled and she's not wearing any jewellery, which is a pity because I loved that red necklace! Glenn was truly fabulous, standing ovations both times for As If We Never Said Goodbye. It was good to see Siobhan Dillon again, I'd seen her wonderful understudy Britney Coleman previously, and I do think that Fred Johanson is great as Max.
At stage door a member of the ensemble said that they are currently in discussions to take the production to Australia in November. Potentially for a week in Sydney and a week in Melbourne. Tbh he didn't sound pretty confident that it would happen but that was his reply when someone asked him if it was going to be extended, recorded, or transferred.
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Post by chernjam on Jun 29, 2017 6:11:44 GMT
mosiemo - there was some australian press reporting this as well. I doubt the entire broadway company would make the move (hence the ensemble not being confident) but I'm hopeful as it seems that would be the best chance of it being filmed. Perhaps the costs/union rules etc make it easier to do so there - as they did Love Never Dies. I'm just really hoping this happens. I saw Sunset for the 4th time about a week before it closed (was out of town for the final performance otherwise would've definitely been there) and noticed those subtle changes as well - Norma looking more disheveled... which made it work even more. The human/vulnerable Norma is much more heart-wrenching and Xavier grew so much in the role balancing cynical/manipulative/empathetic all in one. Loved it each time more than the time before. And I left the theatre thinking "they literally put every ounce they had in that performance" - absolutely wonderful. So - I'm crossing my fingers that somehow Australia will materialize as well as a film. Otherwise I might have to make my first trip to the UK to find the Ria Jones Tour |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2017 10:53:01 GMT
mosiemo - there was some australian press reporting this as well. I doubt the entire broadway company would make the move (hence the ensemble not being confident) but I'm hopeful as it seems that would be the best chance of it being filmed. Perhaps the costs/union rules etc make it easier to do so there - as they did Love Never Dies. I'm just really hoping this happens. I saw Sunset for the 4th time about a week before it closed (was out of town for the final performance otherwise would've definitely been there) and noticed those subtle changes as well - Norma looking more disheveled... which made it work even more. The human/vulnerable Norma is much more heart-wrenching and Xavier grew so much in the role balancing cynical/manipulative/empathetic all in one. Loved it each time more than the time before. And I left the theatre thinking "they literally put every ounce they had in that performance" - absolutely wonderful. So - I'm crossing my fingers that somehow Australia will materialize as well as a film. Otherwise I might have to make my first trip to the UK to find the Ria Jones Tour The production potentially moving to Australia has absolutly no impact on whether or not a film will materialize. As has been said before, the issue is with Paramount holding the rights to the original film and refusing to allow any reproduction of the film. ALW has been working with paramount to try to sort this out and seems to be making some progress but as it stands currently Sunset Boulevard cannot be produced. |
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Post by chernjam on Jun 29, 2017 22:00:16 GMT
Would Paramount black ball a filming of the stage production?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2017 8:17:45 GMT
Would Paramount black ball a filming of the stage production? Yes. They have consistently since its been a pipe dream. As far as they're concerned the legacy of the original film is too precious to touch to allow any re-production of same story on film, be it filming the stage production or a full blown Hollywood production of the musical. Unfortunately. My guess would be that Sunset Boulevard (musical) has got to such a point of success that Paramount are asking a silly amount to relinquish the rights. |
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Post by chernjam on Jul 1, 2017 4:53:02 GMT
You would think that with Paramount's recent difficulties (http://www.latimes.com/business/hollywood/la-fi-ct-jim-gianopulos-paramount-20170321-story.html) they'd be a bit more cooperative... I can see making a full blown movie musical version might be a bit too difficult to pull off/make it financially viable. But Universal had great success with Love Never Dies - a far less known entity in the ALW canon... Just foolishness
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2017 9:46:37 GMT
You would think that with Paramount's recent difficulties (http://www.latimes.com/business/hollywood/la-fi-ct-jim-gianopulos-paramount-20170321-story.html) they'd be a bit more cooperative... I can see making a full blown movie musical version might be a bit too difficult to pull off/make it financially viable. But Universal had great success with Love Never Dies - a far less known entity in the ALW canon... Just foolishness Yes, maybe. As far as Paramount are concerned the original film still gets classified and rated as one of the best American movies ever made (http://www.afi.com/100years/movies10.aspx rated 16th of 100 in 2007), to them its legacy is untouchable and any reproduction could affect its perception. Given Sunset Boulevard's (musical) recent success in London and Broadway ALW definitely has more leverage now (the original Broadway production lost significant money). The success of School of Rock on Broadway and London should help ALWs case with Paramount also given that the SoR film is a paramount picture too. I guess the logic is if the rights get agreed and a production OK'd they'd go all out and do a full film production rather than merely film a semi-staged production. Love Never Dies is a different case in that its completely original theres no pre-existing film rights to the story etc. So financially its a lot cheaper to mount and produce. They were also able to piggy back press and promotion from the 25th Phantom anniversary to help it whereas SB would require a completely unique promotional hit. |
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Jul 1, 2017 10:27:15 GMT
Given that there are still no real plans to make the film this production has to be Glenn's final outing as Norma, surely?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2017 10:59:48 GMT
Given that there are still no real plans to make the film this production has to be Glenn's final outing as Norma, surely? I'm sure I read in an interview somewhere she wanted to do more, can't remember the source specifically. But I think your right theres only a limited amount of time remaining that she can realistically pull off Norma for. Which is why I think theres a bigger demand now to get a film production rolling. She is the ultimate Norma and many people want her performance immortalised. |
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Post by zak97 on Jul 13, 2017 21:03:55 GMT
Should anyone wish to re-live the revival, a performance from Broadway in its entirety has emerged on youtube - for now at least before it is inevitably removed.
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Jul 14, 2017 7:59:33 GMT
Should anyone wish to re-live the revival, a performance from Broadway in its entirety has emerged on youtube - for now at least before it is inevitably removed. Thanks for NOT posting a link, given that the new UK tour is imminent. I watched a few few minutes of it and decided to leave it at that. A shaky bootleg does neither the production, or Miss Close justice. |
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Post by zak97 on Jul 14, 2017 9:13:00 GMT
Completely agree. One interesting point though, did people say that the last note of 'with one look I'll be me' at the very end is not sung live, because in this video it definitely seems live....although could be part of the dodgy recording.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2017 16:07:55 GMT
Completely agree. One interesting point though, did people say that the last note of 'with one look I'll be me' at the very end is not sung live, because in this video it definitely seems live....although could be part of the dodgy recording. Thought exactly the same myself. This video definitely debunks the pre-recorded 'Me'-theory. Especially the Final note, her voice 100% breaks. |
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