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Post by mortal on Mar 19, 2020 12:12:40 GMT
Having seen all the worry over theatres closing due to everything that's going on, can anone explain where all the money goes?
I may be wrong but as I understand it, the theatre doesn't pay the performer / production until after the performances so the theatre wouldn't be out of pocket just the production.
I'm not trying to make any assumptions but would genuinly like to understand how it works
Thanks
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Post by mortal on Mar 19, 2020 14:10:30 GMT
Thanks for that.
Just hoping that all the fantastic people on zero hours contracts who work so hard in the industry, whether they be employed by theatres or production companies, are protected
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Post by TallPaul on Mar 19, 2020 14:45:41 GMT
I was due to be at Leeds Grand Theatre today which, unlike the nearby Playhouse, is solely a receiving house.
This is the exact wording from the cancellation email I received on Tuesday: "If you can afford to, please consider donating the cost of your tickets - the money will be split between the theatre and company who was bringing the production to the venue."
Although there is no specific reference to percentages, if it's on a 50/50 basis, Leeds Grand will actually receive the largest share, as it has already changed a non-refundable £3 booking fee.
I don't want either the 'landlord' or 'tenant' to fail but, after some thought, I've asked for a refund, which I'm then going to donate to Northern Ballet, the company I was supposed to be seeing.
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Post by firefingers on Mar 19, 2020 15:58:45 GMT
As far as not being paid goes, conversations are still on going between producers, theatres, companies, and unions, try to ensure everyone gets through this complete mess. I am a company member on a show and did receive some money this week which helped to destress the situation. Though we are just as mystified as to where the donated ticket money goes to, they've ask our patrons to donate any refunded tickets but not said anything to us. But maybe it will be coming to us in part in someway.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2020 11:47:33 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2020 12:24:46 GMT
As far as not being paid goes, conversations are still on going between producers, theatres, companies, and unions, try to ensure everyone gets through this complete mess. I am a company member on a show and did receive some money this week which helped to destress the situation. Though we are just as mystified as to where the donated ticket money goes to, they've ask our patrons to donate any refunded tickets but not said anything to us. But maybe it will be coming to us in part in someway. I really hope so :-) |
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Post by malvolio on Mar 20, 2020 17:52:29 GMT
The news from the chancellor a moment ago that employees will get 80% of their wages, this must be very reassuring for a lot of people.
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Post by Mark on Mar 20, 2020 17:57:08 GMT
The news from the chancellor a moment ago that employees will get 80% of their wages, this must be very reassuring for a lot of people. I am so relieved! |
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Post by SuperTrooper on Mar 20, 2020 18:15:53 GMT
I'm not relieved yet, is that going to be 80% of my take home pay (Inc bonus, non optional overtime etc) or 80% of a basic 8 shows?
If the latter, I and many others are stuffed!
And breathe!
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Post by NeilVHughes on Mar 20, 2020 18:50:47 GMT
Nothing for the self employed single entity freelancer which I imagine includes most people who work in Theatre.
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Post by joem on Mar 23, 2020 23:13:56 GMT
I wonder if funds collected for the Restoration Levy, which has now become a permanent fixture like booking fees, might not be diverted temporarily to help with this emergency.
Not sure how the 80% works but I hope it doesn't mean someone on £1 million a year is guaranteed £800,000 and someone on £10,000 is guaranteed £8,000!
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Post by olliebean on Mar 23, 2020 23:39:28 GMT
Not sure how the 80% works but I hope it doesn't mean someone on £1 million a year is guaranteed £800,000 and someone on £10,000 is guaranteed £8,000! Limited to £2500/month, I believe. |
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Post by horton on Mar 24, 2020 12:04:14 GMT
I was due to be at Leeds Grand Theatre today which, unlike the nearby Playhouse, is solely a receiving house. This is the exact wording from the cancellation email I received on Tuesday: "If you can afford to, please consider donating the cost of your tickets - the money will be split between the theatre and company who was bringing the production to the venue." Although there is no specific reference to percentages, if it's on a 50/50 basis, Leeds Grand will actually receive the largest share, as it has already changed a non-refundable £3 booking fee. I don't want either the 'landlord' or 'tenant' to fail but, after some thought, I've asked for a refund, which I'm then going to donate to Northern Ballet, the company I was supposed to be seeing. The split is generally around 70-30 in simple terms in favour of the producer, though the deal can vary depending on the desirability of the show, length of run, merchandise agreements, presence or absence of an interval (allowing for booze sales) etc etc The producer does not receive any of the booking fees in my experience (maybe I do bad deals?) |
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Post by TallPaul on Mar 24, 2020 12:17:23 GMT
Very interesting, horton. Many thanks for sharing your inside knowledge. |
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Post by Jan on Mar 24, 2020 14:26:00 GMT
Nothing for the self employed single entity freelancer which I imagine includes most people who work in Theatre. It seems there will be something for the self-employed in general but it is taking longer to develop a policy. It is very difficult to work out a fair amount based on past earnings which might have been very variable. They also make the point that some freelancers will actually be earning more than usual currently and they should not benefit unfairly - no idea who they would be, delivery drivers maybe. |
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