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Post by lonlad on Mar 16, 2020 13:20:03 GMT
nothing surprises me re ATG who will stop at nothing to make a buck.
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Post by firefingers on Mar 16, 2020 13:28:40 GMT
They'll stay open and until otherwise. If they shut voluntarily they'll be responsible for payments to staff etc even if it is two weeks severance or similar. If government do it, it's force majeure and they don't have to pay. Simple as that. Audience numbers are collapsing but producers hanging on so that force majeure works for them. That's my guess anyway.
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Post by n1david on Mar 16, 2020 13:37:30 GMT
One thing of note on both the DMG and ATG pages - they are both now offering free ticket exchanges if you want to move a show to a later date. I agree with firefingers though - if they close because of a government instruction, they may be covered by insurance and, if they're not they can claim force majeure and push ticket-buyers to their credit card companies for refunds. If they close at their own discretion, they'll have to refund ticket buyers, which will be phenomenally expensive for them.
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Post by londonmzfitz on Mar 16, 2020 13:46:08 GMT
One thing of note on both the DMG and ATG pages - they are both now offering free ticket exchanges if you want to move a show to a later date. I agree with firefingers though - if they close because of a government instruction, they may be covered by insurance and, if they're not they can claim force majeure and push ticket-buyers to their credit card companies for refunds. If they close at their own discretion, they'll have to refund ticket buyers, which will be phenomenally expensive for them. I can't see anything on the ATG page -?- there's a link to a post from Friday 13th saying : quote www.atgtickets.com/coronavirus-info/ but nothing about changes. My Nebraskan buddy was travelling specially to see Uncle Vanya because she's in love with Richard Armitage.
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Post by talkingheads on Mar 16, 2020 14:02:01 GMT
One thing of note on both the DMG and ATG pages - they are both now offering free ticket exchanges if you want to move a show to a later date. I agree with firefingers though - if they close because of a government instruction, they may be covered by insurance and, if they're not they can claim force majeure and push ticket-buyers to their credit card companies for refunds. If they close at their own discretion, they'll have to refund ticket buyers, which will be phenomenally expensive for them. I can't see anything on the ATG page -?- there's a link to a post from Friday 13th saying : quote www.atgtickets.com/coronavirus-info/ but nothing about changes. My Nebraskan buddy was travelling specially to see Uncle Vanya because she's in love with Richard Armitage. Yeah. I have tickets to Austentatious on Sunday but given it would mean getting a train there I am dithering, especially as so many shows and theatres are closing, yet the trains remain running so I'd lose out on all the train ticket money because SouthWesternRailway are refusing to give refunds on advance tickets.
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Post by showoff on Mar 16, 2020 14:02:19 GMT
They'll stay open and until otherwise. If they shut voluntarily they'll be responsible for payments to staff etc even if it is two weeks severance or similar. If government do it, it's force majeure and they don't have to pay. Simple as that. Audience numbers are collapsing but producers hanging on so that force majeure works for them. That's my guess anyway. Yes, I agree, they're waiting for the government and then they can claim insurance. The trouble is the government don't care either, so it's just the general public who will suffer.
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Post by n1david on Mar 16, 2020 14:10:24 GMT
One thing of note on both the DMG and ATG pages - they are both now offering free ticket exchanges if you want to move a show to a later date. I agree with firefingers though - if they close because of a government instruction, they may be covered by insurance and, if they're not they can claim force majeure and push ticket-buyers to their credit card companies for refunds. If they close at their own discretion, they'll have to refund ticket buyers, which will be phenomenally expensive for them. I can't see anything on the ATG page -?- there's a link to a post from Friday 13th saying : quote www.atgtickets.com/coronavirus-info/ but nothing about changes. My Nebraskan buddy was travelling specially to see Uncle Vanya because she's in love with Richard Armitage. The ATG page includes this line: which links to this page: www.atgtickets.com/cv19form1
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Post by londonmzfitz on Mar 16, 2020 14:14:44 GMT
I can't see anything on the ATG page -?- there's a link to a post from Friday 13th saying : quote www.atgtickets.com/coronavirus-info/ but nothing about changes. My Nebraskan buddy was travelling specially to see Uncle Vanya because she's in love with Richard Armitage. The ATG page includes this line: which links to this page: www.atgtickets.com/cv19form1Thank you! Of course, she's feeling fine, and NHS doesn't apply because she's in the country with tRump ... see what happens in 4 weeks time.
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Post by stevejohnson678 on Mar 16, 2020 14:51:46 GMT
I see the information about claiming a refund if you wish to cancel has vanished from the Hamilton FAQs. The information now only seems to talk about exchanges. I wonder if they've stopped issuing refunds if people can't attend (perhaps because it's not as hot a ticket as it once was) or if they just don't want to draw attention to that offer at the moment for fear of playing to an empty theatre.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2020 14:55:18 GMT
Apologies. Had posted Indecent info here in the wrong thread. Deleted.
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Post by n1david on Mar 16, 2020 15:31:03 GMT
I am sure the Monkey is very busy right now so I will share his tweet:
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Post by undeuxtrois on Mar 16, 2020 15:40:52 GMT
What do we think about ATG and Delfont being so adamant about staying open? Is it bone headedness at this point given how seriously Broadway et al are taking it and going dark?
As much as I really don't want the theatres to close, I do understand why they should.
But really I think it should be down to the theatregoers themselves to decide if they're well enough to attend without putting themselves/others at risk. Not everyone would follow this though, not wanting to miss out on a show as it may be their only chance to go.
If all the theatres shut, who knows when they'll re-open? Who decides it'd be "safe" enough?
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Post by n1david on Mar 16, 2020 15:45:44 GMT
But really I think it should be down to the theatregoers themselves to decide if they're well enough to attend without putting themselves/others at risk Unfortunately, the staff working at the theatres don't necessarily have that choice.
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Post by talkingheads on Mar 16, 2020 15:46:38 GMT
But really I think it should be down to the theatregoers themselves to decide if they're well enough to attend without putting themselves/others at risk Unfortunately, the staff working at the theatres don't necessarily have that choice. Exactly. You can be well but then interact with staff who have interacted with hundreds if not thousands of other patrons that week.
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Post by couldileaveyou on Mar 16, 2020 15:54:57 GMT
I can't imagine the Judi Dench show going on at the Bridge tbh, at 85 she should stay safe home
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Post by johng on Mar 16, 2020 16:13:24 GMT
Yvonne Arnaud put tickets for Judi Dench on sale this morning, and even more surprisingly they still had the £150 intimate post show reception on sale. It's not until July so there's a small chance the show will happen, but surely not the meet and greet
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Post by n1david on Mar 16, 2020 16:31:24 GMT
Nimax are also offering free exchanges
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Post by malvolio on Mar 16, 2020 17:25:44 GMT
With the announcement from the Prime Minister that people should avoid ‘non essential contact’ means all theatre will be cancelled for the foreseeable future.
Sad times ahead.
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Post by showoff on Mar 16, 2020 18:03:21 GMT
What do we think about ATG and Delfont being so adamant about staying open? Is it bone headedness at this point given how seriously Broadway et al are taking it and going dark?
As much as I really don't want the theatres to close, I do understand why they should.
But really I think it should be down to the theatregoers themselves to decide if they're well enough to attend without putting themselves/others at risk. Not everyone would follow this though, not wanting to miss out on a show as it may be their only chance to go.
If all the theatres shut, who knows when they'll re-open? Who decides it'd be "safe" enough?
It really shouldn't. The thing is, someone may make the decision they are fine, go and give it to their whole family, resulting in at least one death. It puts seeing a show into perspective, just because it's their one chance to go.
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Post by showoff on Mar 16, 2020 18:05:15 GMT
With the announcement from the Prime Minister that people should avoid ‘non essential contact’ means all theatre will be cancelled for the foreseeable future. Sad times ahead. Not quite though. He phrased it in such as a way, not a ban, only recommended, I'm not sure theatres will be able to use that in their insurance, so we may have some stay open for a while until his hand is forced. Honestly, the man is not suited to the job. No decisive action, all bluster, and it leaves people in an awkward position.
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Post by talkingheads on Mar 16, 2020 18:07:08 GMT
Now Delfont has finally confirmed closures what's the betting ATG follows suit?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2020 19:09:46 GMT
Official advice from SOLT and UK Theatre has encouraged all artists to use their own pens for signings. This is the same directive which has encouraged the banning of backstage visits. Makes sense, maybe just say people won't be signing. We'd fully understand that I only asked Britt as I saw her sign for someone else.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2020 19:13:47 GMT
I can't imagine the Judi Dench show going on at the Bridge tbh, at 85 she should stay safe home I wonder if the BBC or ITV might get a Dame Judi, Sir Ian McKellen, Sir David Attenborough to do an almost public service type broadcast advising the elderly how to stay safe as they have some gravitas in their voice and people respect them.
Boris clearly has to lead but maybe a bit of back up for general announcements - like when Henry Cooper fronted the flu jab campaign etc.
Maybe even HM or Trainee King makes a broadcast telling us to stay calm.
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Post by HereForTheatre on Mar 16, 2020 19:25:59 GMT
Curtains are saying they will still run this week at Haymarket Leicester, which seems unbelievable.
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Post by stevejohnson678 on Mar 16, 2020 19:37:53 GMT
Curtains are saying they will still run this week at Haymarket Leicester, which seems unbelievable. Also cracking jokes on social media that "it would be deadly to miss it".
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Post by Dr Tom on Mar 16, 2020 19:40:44 GMT
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Post by drowseychap on Mar 17, 2020 0:53:30 GMT
Face book post from the oldest working cinema in the U.K. but what common sense ...
Our cinema has remained open through two world wars and the Spanish flu of 1918-1920. Boris Johnson's deliberately vague announcement seems purely to mitigate financial liability, and to avoid paying small businesses and millions of hospitality workers compensation for closure.
We have been in discussion today with our staff and regular customers and are all in agreement that until the authorities turn up at our door we will stay open.
For your added safety we will be reducing seating capacity significantly so you’ll have plenty of space and we will continue to regularly disinfect all surfaces.
We would kindly ask that you do not visit us if you feel unwell or think that you may be taking an unnecessary risk leaving your home. For everyone else, please enjoy our cinema as Brummies have done for the last 110 years.
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Post by asfound on Mar 17, 2020 7:23:10 GMT
Any news on the Donmar? No email notification or anything on their socials and it looks like they're still taking bookings.
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Post by basi1faw1ty on Mar 17, 2020 7:46:21 GMT
Wasn't sure where to post this (since there's like 3 different CV threads going on), but St Martin's/The Mousetrap had to close last night for I believe the first time since the start of its run!?
I booked via hotelsdirect a hotel/theatre package, and I want to cancel and get a refund for at least the hotel. What's the best way to go about this?
Problem is we don't know how long St Martin's/the West End is meant to be shut for. For all we know it could be back open in a matter of weeks, so I'm a bit stuck here! Help!!
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Post by Mark on Mar 17, 2020 7:59:33 GMT
So Delfont have canceled all this week, ATG still seem to be selling tickets but obviously cancelling. I’m guessing the reason is so that they will eventually be told they HAVE to close so that they can claim on the insurance.
Whilst the full extent yet is not known, it would seem 9 to 5, Waitress, Thriller might never reopen, and I’m sure there will be many more casualties - I can’t see Sunday, Mockingbird, Dolly or Joseph opening this in their planned timeframes, and it remains to be seen if Cinderella/Frozen will push back further.
My god we are going to need some lighthearted entertainment once this has all played out
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