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Post by alece10 on Mar 15, 2020 16:56:19 GMT
Firstly, terrible thread title - apologies. In light of the presumed upcoming theatre shutdown, if anyone is in need of a distraction from the world, is stuck at home or simply wants to discover something new, I’ve suggested we might like to collectively listen to the same cast recording then have a bit of a discussion about it. We have some wonderfully knowledgable users here not only about musicals, but the best cast recordings too. So I thought I’d open up a new topic so if anyone is interested we can discuss how this might work and when we might like to start etc. So anyone any thoughts on this, or want to even dive in and give some suggestions on a cast album we could start with? In the interest of fairness, I’d suggest using a streaming service like Spotify as its free (with adverts I believe) and has a decent catalogue too. Great fun idea. Bit like a camp book club 😁 I subscribe to Apple music and hopefully the albums will be on there too.
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Mar 15, 2020 16:59:04 GMT
Yes good idea. Perhaps a mixture of the more obscure along with more accessible so that everyone can be included.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2020 17:55:54 GMT
Perhaps a mixture of the more obscure along with more accessible so that everyone can be included. I agree. As such I’m going to put forward a suggestion of either The Secret Garden or R&H Cinderella - sadly Secret Garden at The Palladium might not happen now and with ALW announcing his own Cinderella, it might be worth revisiting another version of it in musical form.
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Post by juicy_but_terribly_drab on Mar 15, 2020 17:56:34 GMT
I love this idea. It's always fun to discover a show that's new to you but often it won't necessarily be a cast recording of a show that's currently playing or that is relevant or that was ever very big so it would be nice to have people to talk about it with guaranteed.
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Post by Dawnstar on Mar 15, 2020 18:52:34 GMT
In the interest of fairness, I’d suggest using a streaming service like Spotify as its free (with adverts I believe) and has a decent catalogue too. I might need an explanation of how Spotify works first!
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Mar 15, 2020 18:53:53 GMT
In the interest of fairness, I’d suggest using a streaming service like Spotify as its free (with adverts I believe) and has a decent catalogue too. I might need an explanation of how Spotify works first! Do you use a pc, laptop or a smartphone Dawnstar?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2020 19:11:41 GMT
Edit - the below only applies to smartphones.
Actually it appears you can only play music on shuffle on Spotify in the free version, so I was wrong on that. Not going to work on a musical (although that’s how I listened to Love Never Dies first and only realised at the end...) Still, most streaming services have cast albums and is still the easiest way to do this.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2020 19:19:23 GMT
Would Youtube be possible (or will the copyright police be an issue?). I could probably sort video out for that as well.
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Post by juicy_but_terribly_drab on Mar 15, 2020 19:32:34 GMT
I listen to most of my cast recordings on YouTube. It won't have everything especially if it's very old or very new/popular because the former probably just won't be widespread enough to have someone upload it and the latter because it will probably get taken down for copyright reasons but it has a lot.
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Mar 15, 2020 19:57:26 GMT
Would Youtube be possible (or will the copyright police be an issue?). I could probably sort video out for that as well. If the recording is on YouTube and there are any doubts about copyright just tell people it’s on YouTube. Everyone is capable of doing a search there and finding it. For Spotify just use the ‘share’ option they offer and post the link here.
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Post by Mark on Mar 15, 2020 19:58:05 GMT
Great idea! I’d love to suggest Beetlejuice as an option at some point. I purposely didn’t listen to it so I could go in blind and then the performance I was due to see got cancelled due to the shutdown.
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Post by originalconceptlive on Mar 15, 2020 20:15:10 GMT
Fun idea! Spotify does allow the playing of albums in track order for free (with occasional ads) on certain devices. I've found it has worked on a PC and a tablet, but not on a phone; not sure where the magic line is there. If YouTube is used, First Night Records has put up a lot of their own full albums on YouTube, so no legal issues there. There are probably other examples out there of record labels doing the same. www.youtube.com/channel/UCmyHqlT72zuCOrjug1vKwhA/playlists
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Post by olliebean on Mar 15, 2020 20:15:32 GMT
Actually it appears you can only play music on shuffle on Spotify in the free version, so I was wrong on that. Not going to work on a musical (although that’s how I listened to Love Never Dies first and only realised at the end...) Still, most streaming services have cast albums and is still the easiest way to do this. To be clear, this restriction only applies to smartphones - you can listen to albums and playlists in the correct order (with ads) in the free version on tablets, in the desktop app, or at play.spotify.com in your desktop browser.
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Post by Dawnstar on Mar 15, 2020 20:39:09 GMT
I might need an explanation of how Spotify works first! Do you use a pc, laptop or a smartphone Dawnstar ? A laptop. Does it work differently on different devices?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2020 21:00:00 GMT
First Night Records has put up a lot of their own full albums on YouTube, so no legal issues there. That's a lot of recordings. I already have several of them.
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Mar 15, 2020 21:13:41 GMT
Do you use a pc, laptop or a smartphone Dawnstar ? A laptop. Does it work differently on different devices? If you want to, go to www.spotify.com and register. They’ll entice you to pay but dont sign up to anything that requires payment. the free service allows you to listen to thousands of records but you’ll find it’s interrupted by ads sometimes. im not promoting it, just filling you in. Others may have tips.
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Post by Dawnstar on Mar 15, 2020 21:38:18 GMT
If you want to, go to www.spotify.com and register. They’ll entice you to pay but dont sign up to anything that requires payment. the free service allows you to listen to thousands of records but you’ll find it’s interrupted by ads sometimes. im not promoting it, just filling you in. Others may have tips. I think I'm already registered, as I had to do so to listen to some clips linked to on ENB's website a few months ago. I just don't know how to find music on it without a link. Oh well, I will shortly have plenty of time to try to find out!
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Post by ronnette on Mar 15, 2020 21:40:31 GMT
This is a brilliant idea. I feel I'm in a bit of a rut in terms of cast albums, just listening to the same ones. There's loads of musicals I feel I 'should' know and don't.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2020 22:55:47 GMT
So I say let’s just go for it and see where we land. Tomorrow is Monday and it’s as good a day as any to try something - so let’s start with Beetlejuice as suggested by Mark TheatreBoard LP1: BeetlejuiceWikipedia: Conversation Points:1. Favourite song 2. Favourite lyric 3. Pick a role and dream cast it 4. Pick 3 songs to be performed at ‘West End Live’ 5. Nominate a cast album for consideration for the next ‘listening party’ Beetlejuice has never been performed in the UK so I’m assuming that most of us have never seen or heard it yet. So let’s just run with it and see where we end up over the next few days. Happy listening!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2020 22:58:16 GMT
Maybe some kind soul could update the thread title to include the chosen recording?
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Post by olliebean on Mar 16, 2020 8:43:58 GMT
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Post by mrbluesky on Mar 16, 2020 9:27:42 GMT
What a cracking album to start with!! Love the music for this show!
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Post by juicy_but_terribly_drab on Mar 16, 2020 11:15:58 GMT
Alright I've done a first listen and it was just fine. None of the songs have really stuck with me and no lines stuck out as particularly clever or funny which is a shame but I imagine obviously that you're missing a lot with only vocals to carry the performances here. I've never seen the film Beetlejuice, however, so obviously I'm going to be missing a lot of the references but I did read the plot summary on Wikipedia as I listened and of course I knew bits and pieces just from pop culture references to the film. I don't know how I feel about Sophia Anne Caruso as Lydia if I'm honest. Her phrasing is quite off-putting. I assume it's a character choice or at least if it isn't it seems to work for that kind of edgy teenager character but it doesn't make for easy listening. But overall it wasn't bad, I just didn't find it particularly good either but maybe I need a few more listens to fully appreciate it.
Nothing really stood out to me to be honest though so I'm struggling to answer the questions. My favourite song is probably Ready Set, Not Yet because I liked the fast-paced parts which I thought were cleverly written and a cool change of pace to a normally safely written score (though there's flashes of interesting stuff like that throughout the show) but there are still some clunky lyrics in there. I couldn't really pick a favourite lyric though because like I said overall nothing really sticks out to me and no one I'm a big fan of would really fit in this show so I've not got any ideas on dream casting. If they were doing West End Live they would almost certainly do The Whole Being Dead Thing (I think that's been their go to whenever they do stuff like that for the Broadway show) and I imagine Dead Mom to give whoever plays Lydia a spotlight and then Day-O for the nostalgia factor.
My nomination for the next listening party is a show I've never seen that had a small run Off-Broadway a couple of years ago I think. It's called Fortress of Solitude. It's based on the book by Jonathan Lethem which I've also never read so the cast recording is all I have to go off of but I really like the musical style it embraces and the themes that echo throughout the show. I think it'd be nice to do since it's pretty obscure as far as I can tell so it would be a big jump from the massive hit that Beetlejuice was. If not, an older musical might be nice as well to contrast the recency of Beetlejuice, maybe something original too, just for some variety.
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Mar 16, 2020 11:55:36 GMT
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Post by dippy on Mar 16, 2020 11:56:07 GMT
I really don't think this is a thread for me but I'll attempt to at least listen to some of the things that get posted. I don't really listen to music much so listening to something I know little about isn't easy. If it's a show I've seen and enjoyed it's easier. I used to listen to EP on Sunday so did get to hear songs from musicals that were new to me but recently if I'm going to listen to something (mainly only during long car journeys) it's going to be something I know and love.
However I did give this a go and got to track 14, I found it hard to get into and to be honest I'd need to sit there doing absolutely nothing else listening to all the words if I was to appreciate it properly and I wasn't. It ended up becoming background sound that I wasn't actually listening to, maybe I'll try again later but for now I can't answer the questions asked. The bit that did manage to get my attention though was Invisible (reprise)/On the Roof.
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