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Post by BurlyBeaR on Mar 4, 2017 11:14:44 GMT
It can be annoying if everyone else is standing and the cast are doing something else - though mostly folk sit down when they realise what's happening. If I do stand, and am on an aisle seat, I move into the aisle so as not to block the view for anyone behind me. I put my rather large hat on. And the coat with the eighties shoulder pads  |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2017 11:59:32 GMT
I was once manhandled by a lady stood behind me in Aylesbury during a standing ovation. She placed her hands on my waist and pushed me over to one side so that she could see. I felt violated. I really wouldn't have minded if she had politely asked me. I'm in agreement that others shouldn't curb showing their appreciation, just in case others behind didn't enjoy it enough to stand.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2017 12:43:35 GMT
I was once manhandled by a lady stood behind me in Aylesbury during a standing ovation. She placed her hands on my waist and pushed me over to one side so that she could see. I felt violated. I really wouldn't have minded if she had politely asked me. I'm in agreement that others shouldn't curb showing their appreciation, just in case others behind didn't enjoy it enough to stand. See I actually would of called the usher over if someone had dared do that to me in the theatre, how dare someone do that to you. Also, slightly interesting thought, I would bet money if it were a man who touched a woman there and moved her it would of been take more seriously than if a woman haddone it, like i your case. Just a thought.  |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2017 12:52:14 GMT
I was once manhandled by a lady stood behind me in Aylesbury during a standing ovation. She placed her hands on my waist and pushed me over to one side so that she could see. ... slightly interesting thought, I would bet money if it were a man who touched a woman there and moved her it would of been take more seriously than if a woman haddone it, like i your case. Just a thought. I would imagine so, yes. Her being beyond middle age caused me to refrain from making too much of a scene, out of respect. Although I did move away suddenly and gave her several of my strongest eye-rolls, along with plenty of passive aggressive "how rude"s loudly when exiting the auditorium. |
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Post by Tibidabo on Mar 4, 2017 12:54:17 GMT
I was once manhandled by a lady stood behind me in Aylesbury during a standing ovation. She placed her hands on my waist and pushed me over to one side so that she could see. Sorry. But I'm only little.  |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2017 13:26:03 GMT
... slightly interesting thought, I would bet money if it were a man who touched a woman there and moved her it would of been take more seriously than if a woman haddone it, like i your case. Just a thought. I would imagine so, yes. Her being beyond middle age caused me to refrain from making too much of a scene, out of respect. Although I did move away suddenly and gave her several of my strongest eye-rolls, along with plenty of passive aggressive "how rude"s loudly when exiting the auditorium. You're a better man than me. Out of respect to the performers I wouldn't of said anything there and then, but I would havw a few strong words to say to her afterward, and I'd complain to the theatre manager. Even though obviously it has nothing to dowith them, I still wou,d say it did effect my experience in their theatre. |
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Post by theglenbucklaird on Mar 4, 2017 16:28:31 GMT
Only stood up once to give a standing ovation, mean with them me. Has to be deserved, something I found really special.
Although next time I am in the theatre in front of Lynette I am going to be up so quick for the standing ovation. Probably three quarters of the way through the last act.
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Post by theglenbucklaird on Mar 5, 2017 18:13:10 GMT
I'm afraid it went through my mind that I'd probably have a look at what she looked like first, before putting in a complaint... Been thinking about this comment most of the day. Trying to work out the context. Why did you need to look at her, to decide you would have put a complaint in? |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2017 18:25:46 GMT
I'm afraid it went through my mind that I'd probably have a look at what she looked like first, before putting in a complaint... Been thinking about this comment most of the day. Trying to work out the context. Why did you need to look at her, to decide you would have put a complaint in? I'm with you on that... big or small, young or old, black or white, high class or lower class... it doesn't matter, a bitch is a bitch. |
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Post by theglenbucklaird on Mar 6, 2017 19:29:37 GMT
Basically, wanting to establish the complexity of the issue. Are we talking someone who looks mafia connected and going to react badly to a complaint? Someone who has other issues that don't need me messing with? Someone with a "back of head" fetish trying to make a pass? It all has to be taken into account. Light comment, nothing behind it. Move it out of the way if you want. He he
Could only think of number 3 and I was sure you didn't mean that
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Post by paulbrownsey on Apr 11, 2017 20:46:48 GMT
I think that a first preview for a show will probably be booked by people who are theatre fans and/or friends & fans of the cast. Therefore they're likely to be more enthusiastic than a "regular" audience. Thursdays audience was a bit subdued as well. Lots of applause but no standing ovation until the end and then only a few in stalls. More in dress. Strange as I've seen shows not half as good as this and everyone on their feet. The fewer standing ovations the better. They are deeply selfish, forcing those behind to miss parts of the show or to stand as well. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2017 22:46:22 GMT
Thursdays audience was a bit subdued as well. Lots of applause but no standing ovation until the end and then only a few in stalls. More in dress. Strange as I've seen shows not half as good as this and everyone on their feet. The fewer standing ovations the better. They are deeply selfish, forcing those behind to miss parts of the show or to stand as well. Hardly selfish. More an expression of one's enjoyment of the show. |
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Post by paulbrownsey on Apr 12, 2017 15:51:29 GMT
The fewer standing ovations the better. They are deeply selfish, forcing those behind to miss parts of the show or to stand as well. Hardly selfish. More an expression of one's enjoyment of the show. No, selfish: a selfish expression of your enjoyment. "I am enjoying this so much I am going to express it by standing up and blocking your view, and stuff you if you don't like it." |
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Post by mallardo on Apr 12, 2017 16:03:41 GMT
Hardly selfish. More an expression of one's enjoyment of the show. No, selfish: a selfish expression of your enjoyment. "I am enjoying this so much I am going to express it by standing up and blocking your view, and stuff you if you don't like it."
But why should someone's appreciation for and enjoyment of the performance be curtailed because they have someone like you sitting behind them? It works both ways - and you have only to stand up yourself to re-establish the view, resent it though you may.
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Post by infofreako on Apr 12, 2017 16:44:34 GMT
I'm missing something here perhaps. I read the comment in question as one about mid show standing ovations which I have to agree have an air of selfishness about them rather than being about a spontaneous show of appreciation at the end of the performance
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Post by infofreako on Apr 12, 2017 16:53:26 GMT
No, selfish: a selfish expression of your enjoyment. "I am enjoying this so much I am going to express it by standing up and blocking your view, and stuff you if you don't like it."
But why should someone's appreciation for and enjoyment of the performance be curtailed because they have someone like you sitting behind them? It works both ways - and you have only to stand up yourself to re-establish the view, resent it though you may.
Although I will add that your last comment seems a little flippant attending theatre as I often do with someone who is unable to stand for any length of time I'm sure you didn't mean it that way |
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Post by fossil on Apr 12, 2017 18:59:16 GMT
"....and you have only to stand up yourself to re-establish the view, resent it though you may"
But I am only 5'2" tall so often standing up does not usually re-establish my view. I expect any youngsters have the same problem.
You see the way it works is that the differential in height of taller and shorter people is less when they are sitting down and the kind people who design the theatres usually put a rake in the auditorium. The combination of these two factors means that shorter people can usually see reasonably well when all are seated (unless it is a really tall wide person in front!). People who stand wreck this whole scheme. I am not going to throw around words like 'selfish' as I have no knowledge of whether the standing advocates are indeed selfish, or ignorant, or both, or neither. I am sure people are drawing there own conclusions based on their individual points of view (or blocked view).
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Post by paulbrownsey on Apr 12, 2017 19:16:08 GMT
But why should someone's appreciation for and enjoyment of the performance be curtailed because they have someone like you sitting behind them? It works both ways - and you have only to stand up yourself to re-establish the view, resent it though you may.
Although I will add that your last comment seems a little flippant attending theatre as I often do with someone who is unable to stand for any length of time I'm sure you didn't mean it that way Selfish people don't think of the needs of others. "Oh, I want to express myself by a standing ovation and to hell with anyone behind who doesn't like it." |
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Post by paulbrownsey on Apr 12, 2017 19:18:15 GMT
No, selfish: a selfish expression of your enjoyment. "I am enjoying this so much I am going to express it by standing up and blocking your view, and stuff you if you don't like it."
But why should someone's appreciation for and enjoyment of the performance be curtailed because they have someone like you sitting behind them? It works both ways - and you have only to stand up yourself to re-establish the view, resent it though you may.
Your appreciation and enjoyment of the show isn't curtailed at all. Your *expression* of your appreciation and enjoyment should be subject to consideration for others. Your question is comparable to, "Why should my wish to hold an all-night party in the flat downstairs from you be curtailed by your need for sleep?" |
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Post by paulbrownsey on Apr 12, 2017 19:19:59 GMT
"....and you have only to stand up yourself to re-establish the view, resent it though you may" But I am only 5'2" tall so often standing up does not usually re-establish my view. I expect any youngsters have the same problem. You see the way it works is that the differential in height of taller and shorter people is less when they are sitting down and the kind people who design the theatres usually put a rake in the auditorium. The combination of these two factors means that shorter people can usually see reasonably well when all are seated (unless it is a really tall wide person in front!). People who stand wreck this whole scheme. I am not going to throw around words like 'selfish' as I have no knowledge of whether the standing advocates are indeed selfish, or ignorant, or both, or neither. I am sure people are drawing there own conclusions based on their individual points of view (or blocked view). But I am special! I was told that at school. So small people be blowed. It is very important that the world can see *my* appreciation of the show expressed visibly by a standing ovation. The rest of you don't count. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2017 19:54:11 GMT
The fewer standing ovations the better. They are deeply selfish, forcing those behind to miss parts of the show or to stand as well. Hardly selfish. More an expression of one's enjoyment of the show. The problem arises in how different people think enjoyment should be expressed. Applause? Standing at the curtain call? Standing after every song (I've seen that one)? Singing along? Calling out to the performers? At some point, somebody's expression of enjoyment becomes another person's selfishness. |
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Post by mallardo on Apr 12, 2017 20:08:10 GMT
Okay, I understand that there are people for whom a standing ovation constitutes a view block. But, like it or not, standing ovations are part of the theatre going experience these days and if one is going to get upset about it one is setting oneself up for an unhappy conclusion to the evening. You can be sure that for a musical like 42nd Street there will be standing ovations - hopefully not mid-show. Be prepared, and, as far as you can, go with the flow.
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Post by infofreako on Apr 12, 2017 20:57:26 GMT
Okay, I understand that there are people for whom a standing ovation constitutes a view block. But, like it or not, standing ovations are part of the theatre going experience these days and if one is going to get upset about it one is setting oneself up for an unhappy conclusion to the evening. You can be sure that for a musical like 42nd Street there will be standing ovations - hopefully not mid-show. Be prepared, and, as far as you can, go with the flow. My issue would never be with standing at the end of the show. That goes with the territory. The mid act ones always seem a bit unnecessary and look at me. I was up like a shot at the end of 42nd Street and probably would be again. If as someone seemed to suggest earlier the audience when they went to the same show and even to Hamlet were up and down like yo yos throughout and people should just accept that happens. That's just wrong in my opinion (Strangely, scrolling back I can't find the comment I just referred to) |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2017 22:33:56 GMT
Hardly selfish. More an expression of one's enjoyment of the show. No, selfish: a selfish expression of your enjoyment. "I am enjoying this so much I am going to express it by standing up and blocking your view, and stuff you if you don't like it." I paid for my ticket same as you, therefore I'm entitled to express my appreciation for the cast if I want to! Your choice if you want to join in or not. And if you are physically incapable of doing so, then in this day and age you buy a ticket knowing perfectly well that people may stand up in front of you to give the cast a well deserved ovation. Plus people sit down for the curtain call after the bows once they realise it's happening, you're not being blocked from seeing that, so I'm afraid I think if you have a problem with standing ovations at the end of a show you really are just being a bit of a killjoy over a minute or two of time! |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2017 0:27:57 GMT
I paid for my ticket same as you, therefore I'm entitled to express my appreciation for the cast if I want to! Your choice if you want to join in or not. And if you are physically incapable of doing so, then in this day and age you buy a ticket knowing perfectly well that people may stand up in front of you to give the cast a well deserved ovation. Plus people sit down for the curtain call after the bows once they realise it's happening, you're not being blocked from seeing that, so I'm afraid I think if you have a problem with standing ovations at the end of a show you really are just being a bit of a killjoy over a minute or two of time! I will bite as its me who mentioned those unable to stand and with a dig like that at disabled people youre clearly fishing for reaction. The person I take to theatre cant stand. She accepts her limitations in order to still do something she enjoys. Some possibly like yourself think she shouldnt have such opportunities but thankfully theatre on the whole is quite inclusive these days unlike your attitude. She as a result has no problem at all with standing and blocking her view at the end of a show to show their appreciation and accepts this will happen. In fact I often stand on occasions when the performance warrants it. What she objects to and what I made very clear when I mentioned those unable to stand is when people mid act whilst the performance is continuing decide to jump up in front of her to show their appreciation. No amount of you or others telling me you paid for your ticket youre entitled to so will convince me that this is acceptable behaviour. I really don't appreciate you reading into my post what isn't there, and telling me I have an attitude that is in no way displayed in my post. I did not make any sort of dig at disabled people - all I said was that people who are unable to stand and attend the theatre must surely buy their ticket accepting that a standing ovation may block their view for a few moments at the end of the performance - that's a simple fact given the frequency of standing ovations these days. How dare you extrapolate from that that I think disabled people shouldn't have opportunities. You know nothing about me, and for all you know I could (and in fact do) have disabled people among my family and friends, so I'm speaking from experience of them knowing their view of cast bows may be blocked momentarily, yet not finding that an inconvenience provided they get to see any curtain call that comes afterwards, when people can and should sit down. And if you'd bothered to read my post carefully enough then you'd realise that I was talking about standing ovations at the END of a show only, which is where I don't think anyone has the right to tell anyone not to stand up if they want to show their appreciation to a cast who were just that good. Ovations mid-show are completely different, and just as annoying as people who keep moving their heads and fidgeting, but that isn't what I was talking about. |
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