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Post by horton on Feb 7, 2020 22:30:39 GMT
Ah yes, speaking of Ant & Dec...
Allegedly The Sun had a story they were going to run on PS this coming Sunday.
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Post by kathryn on Feb 8, 2020 0:29:19 GMT
Ah yes, speaking of Ant & Dec... Allegedly The Sun had a story they were going to run on PS this coming Sunday. The funny thing is I am way more interested in the shady journalism of The Sun than I am in PS’s private life. If there was a story I’d love to know what it was - what the spin was going to be - and how they obtained it. There’s been some notably dodgy stories turning up since the guy who got done for phone hacking was released from prison - makes me wonder if they are up to their old NOTW tricks.
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Post by karloscar on Feb 8, 2020 9:45:51 GMT
Imagine the pressure of having to hide your sexuality from everyone (including yourself) while living in the public eye. So much repression can't be good for your mental health. So I feel it's rather sad that PS has had to wait until now to feel ready to be open. Hopefully things will be easier for him now, the fear is always worse than the reality.
The Gordon the Gopher #metoo GIFs have been kinda hilarious.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2020 17:16:35 GMT
The Gordon the Gopher #metoo GIFs have been kinda hilarious. Funny Gordon jokes along as they don't go into gay sex rumours are funny. I always remember when Andy Peters and Edd the Duck came on i9n skull caps to You Sexy Thing once.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2020 17:29:03 GMT
Also I hope that Schofe's wife Steph is okay over all of this an the media spotlight she will be under. She was a TV presenter briefly in her earlier days but has lead a low key existence alongside Phillip. He may feature her occasionally or talk about his girls who are both grown up now but he managed to keep his public and private life apart and his family out of the spotlight.
Will him and Steph continue living together, will they divorce and potentially live together as friends or just stay nominally married. His net worth is said to be about £10 million which I would find conservative given his annual ITV salary is over £1 million per year. Throw in his advert endorsements and voiceover/corporate work and he must be making near to a million a year net.
Don't forget he was on over 10k a week for Joseph nearly 28 ago and he was worked continuously in TV for pretty well 35 years and apparently made a load in PAs back in his pin up days. Plus he's never seems to be a person who would waste money. I could imagine him being very generous but not splashing out stupid amounts on cars or clothes etc.
If he and Steph did decide to split I'm sure he'll give her a very generous settlement and I think it would be an amicable split.
Lets continue to support Schofe but also spare a thought for Steph.
DOI will be interesting tomorrow as I'd bet Barrowman or H will say some words of support.
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Post by Jon on Feb 8, 2020 18:48:37 GMT
I wouldn’t be surprised if Phil decides to take a break from This Morning to sort things out.
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Post by bengal73 on Feb 8, 2020 21:19:54 GMT
I really hope this was all genuine and his hand wasnt forced by a coming news piece from the gutter press
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Post by oxfordsimon on Feb 8, 2020 23:10:08 GMT
I really hope this was all genuine and his hand wasnt forced by a coming news piece from the gutter press There is Twitter speculation that a This Morning researcher was threatening a kiss and tell. But Twitter is hardly reliable
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2020 3:25:12 GMT
I really hope this was all genuine and his hand wasnt forced by a coming news piece from the gutter press There is Twitter speculation that a This Morning researcher was threatening a kiss and tell. But Twitter is hardly reliable Really hope this isn't true. I can understand he'd confide in Holly and obviously the Programme Editor/Producer would need to know if time was being given over to him on Friday's show. But over all the years I've never heard rumours about his sexuality. I can remember when Gorden Kaye was going to be outed by a tabloid but did a reveal with another paper to spoil the story.
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Post by horton on Feb 9, 2020 6:56:32 GMT
Oh his arm was twisted alright.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2020 12:52:56 GMT
Oh completely, maybe via possible press story but I also think to deflect attention from the bullying claims that weren't going away. It all feels very PR/crisis management regardless.
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Post by kathryn on Feb 9, 2020 13:37:29 GMT
Interview with The Sun on Sunday today - hmmmm.
Does make me wonder if a deal was struck.
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Post by danb on Feb 9, 2020 14:07:08 GMT
I do wonder in this supposedly enlightened day & age who actually cares? At work a couple of (older) people came back from break and announced to the team what had happened. There was a muted ‘bothered’ type response and everyone got on with their day....I just don’t feel its any of my business. I don’t know the guy or his family so it has no bearing on my life. I sympathise for the life he feels he had to hide, and for the pain it may have caused his family but surely thats just human empathy? The less attention that sensational stories like this are given the better.
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Post by robertb213 on Feb 9, 2020 14:16:04 GMT
It's really tricky - on the one hand, it's nobody else's business and it's 2020, it shouldn't matter. But on the other, we still don't have any out gay premiership footballers, or Hollywood A-Listers, and people are still being beaten up on the streets for being gay, so equally I do feel it's still important for visibility when someone high profile comes out. Also if Phillip's bravery helps anyone watching to deal with it themselves and be happier in their own lives then it can only be a good thing. I know for me, if there had been more visibility and representation on primetime telly, it would've made me feel better! 😀
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Post by londonpostie on Feb 9, 2020 14:21:19 GMT
But did he not say anything out of respect for his wife and children, or was he making such good money he didn't want to potentially upset the apple cart?
I presume both but literally have no idea.
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Post by intoanewlife on Feb 9, 2020 15:06:59 GMT
How about it's nobodies business?
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Post by robertb213 on Feb 9, 2020 15:31:56 GMT
Very true. But equally, seeing famous people come out can be really inspiring to other people. Tom Daley was inundated with messages from people saying how much his coming out video helped them. I completely agree it should be purely down to the individual how/when/if they come out, but it can also be very helpful to others in terms of visibility and representation.
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Post by intoanewlife on Feb 9, 2020 16:52:06 GMT
Very true. But equally, seeing famous people come out can be really inspiring to other people. Tom Daley was inundated with messages from people saying how much his coming out video helped them. I completely agree it should be purely down to the individual how/when/if they come out, but it can also be very helpful to others in terms of visibility and representation. Enough famous people have come out already, there is more than enough 'visibility'. But I don't really mean his coming out, I mean his finances, career and relationship with his wife and children. These are things that are absolutely none of the publics business x
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Post by theatremadness on Feb 9, 2020 17:52:26 GMT
Very true. But equally, seeing famous people come out can be really inspiring to other people. Tom Daley was inundated with messages from people saying how much his coming out video helped them. I completely agree it should be purely down to the individual how/when/if they come out, but it can also be very helpful to others in terms of visibility and representation. Enough famous people have come out already, there is more than enough 'visibility'. Ah that's good to know, thank you! Can we get the word out please, homophobia is cured, there's no need for any more famous people to come out, thanks everyone!
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Post by robertb213 on Feb 9, 2020 18:15:59 GMT
Enough famous people have come out already, there is more than enough 'visibility'. Ah that's good to know, thank you! Can we get the word out please, homophobia is cured, there's no need for any more famous people to come out, thanks everyone! This, exactly. Thank you. Certain fields are well represented (fashion, music, TV and theatre), but there is a long way to go in others (Hollywood, sports, politics...)
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Post by intoanewlife on Feb 9, 2020 18:47:34 GMT
Enough famous people have come out already, there is more than enough 'visibility'. Ah that's good to know, thank you! Can we get the word out please, homophobia is cured, there's no need for any more famous people to come out, thanks everyone! What does celebrities coming out have to do with homophobia *shrug
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Post by The Matthew on Feb 9, 2020 18:49:58 GMT
And it's not just about being gay. If there's any secret that you've kept for years and been terrified of revealing it's helpful to see examples of people who opened up and found that everyone around them was supportive and treated it as far less of a deal than they feared it would be. There are still people — particularly young and vulnerable people — who would rather kill themselves than open up to others so any example of people coming out the other side is important is getting across the message that It Will Be OK.
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Post by intoanewlife on Feb 9, 2020 18:52:54 GMT
And it's not just about being gay. If there's any secret that you've kept for years and been terrified of revealing it's helpful to see examples of people who opened up and found that everyone around them was supportive and treated it as far less of a deal than they feared it would be. There are still people — particularly young and vulnerable people — who would rather kill themselves than open up to others so any example of people coming out the other side is important is getting across the message that It Will Be OK. I don't get the impression he is coming out to everyone now, I get the impression he is coming out to the public now. I think people close to him have known for some time.
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Post by theatremadness on Feb 9, 2020 19:09:56 GMT
Ah that's good to know, thank you! Can we get the word out please, homophobia is cured, there's no need for any more famous people to come out, thanks everyone! What does celebrities coming out have to do with homophobia *shrug Not even going to dignify that question with even trying to answer it. You know how the two connect, you just want a rise from someone as you usually do from the large majority of your posts on this board. If you don't know how the two connect, well then that's even more worrying bordering on ignorance.
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Post by intoanewlife on Feb 9, 2020 19:23:19 GMT
What does celebrities coming out have to do with homophobia *shrug Not even going to dignify that question with even trying to answer it. You know how the two connect, you just want a rise from someone as you usually do from the large majority of your posts on this board. If you don't know how the two connect, well then that's even more worrying bordering on ignorance. This is cute coming from the person who chose the bit of my post they felt they could turn into an agreement and ignored the rest. I won't continue this, we all have different options on things. I will repeat however that I was not talking about him coming out being private, I was talking about the other discussions going on about his family, finances and career, which is no ones business.
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Post by hulmeman on Feb 9, 2020 20:11:55 GMT
If you want to see some thinly veiled homophobia take a look at some of the comments on the Dancing on Ice facebook pages (there are a couple!) There is a fear that J.Barrowman and H.Steps might show some solidarity with P.Schofield and if they do, "they" will never watch again. Their ire is also directed at H and Matt who apparently barely stood up on the ice tonight and should be struck down for their audacity and if they get through (they didn't) it would be because Barrowman kept them in (he didn't) . I suspect that DOI is just a bit to much for the reactionaries to cope with these days.
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Post by kathryn on Feb 9, 2020 20:43:46 GMT
We’re at this odd societal juncture at the moment.
Most people my age and younger in the U.K. honestly do not care, but there’s plenty of people around still - given our ageing population - who obviously still do, and they don’t like being told that they are wrong by young people. They may well realise they are out of step with their children and grandchildren and hide their opinions, but that doesn’t mean they are not there.
And internationally there are totally different attitudes in different countries - which is why Hollywood is so far behind, they need to sell their product internationally.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2020 23:51:51 GMT
Peter Duncan had left Blue Peter in 1984 and suddenly rejoined the next year after Michael had gone. There was no talk about Michael leaving the previous summer but Peter was one of the best presenters the show ever had and had replaced Christopher Wenner in 1980 who was hugely unpopular as he had replaced the legendary John Noakes. An openly gay Children's TV presenter in 1985 would have been interesting. Children's TV had used lots of gay actors in that period notably Michael Staniforth on Rentaghost and the great Kenneth Williams was a Jackanory regular. Also on CITV Christopher Biggins used to present shows and did some continuity work as ITV had the on screen presenter before BBC. Michael Sundin of course tragically died of AIDS in 1989 so might he have found out he was HIV positive in about 1985 and was quietly released. Michael Staniforth also sadly succumbed to AIDS in 1987. I only found this out year's later. As regards Schofe there have been a few merky news sites claiming he was having an affair with a showrunner who was in effect his PA and this younger man left the show and was going to talk to the press. I treat this with a pinch of salt. Phillip's private life is his own but he is a well known celeb and if him and his wife were divorcing or he'd run off with a younger woman then that would have been news as much as him coming out.
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Post by hulmeman on Feb 10, 2020 11:13:00 GMT
Phillip's private life is his own but he is a well known celeb and if him and his wife were divorcing or he'd run off with a younger woman then that would have been news as much as him coming out. Exactly right! This news was never going to sneak under the tabloid radar. Which is why I have formed the conclusion that all those keyboard warriors saying he should keep it to himself are saying that to disguise their dislike of matters homosexual.
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