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Post by LaLuPone on Jul 11, 2022 17:06:03 GMT
There is no way I am missing this
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Jul 11, 2022 17:47:17 GMT
She will kill this.
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Post by tal on Jul 11, 2022 17:51:28 GMT
And it seems that Jane Lynch is also leaving earlier than planned, or did I read that wrong?
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Post by matty on Jul 11, 2022 17:59:36 GMT
Going to NYC in December and this is the only reason I want to see this revival! Hopefully she'll still be in it then
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Post by budd on Jul 11, 2022 18:00:34 GMT
I thought the production on the whole in supposedly very staid?
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Jul 11, 2022 18:01:11 GMT
And it seems that Jane Lynch is also leaving earlier than planned, or did I read that wrong? Maybe Jane and Lea don’t vibe?? 😲
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Post by tal on Jul 11, 2022 18:30:33 GMT
And it seems that Jane Lynch is also leaving earlier than planned, or did I read that wrong? Maybe Jane and Lea don’t vibe?? 😲 By the looks of it, a lot of actors potentially don't vibe with Lea.
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Post by danb on Jul 11, 2022 19:14:06 GMT
This treachery is despicable isn’t it. 😬
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Post by lolalou on Jul 11, 2022 20:02:14 GMT
Maybe Jane and Lea don’t vibe?? 😲 By the looks of it, a lot of actors potentially don't vibe with Lea. At least she can sing the role
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Post by sph on Jul 11, 2022 22:58:51 GMT
I mean... we can't deny that this is the way the public wants it. We can't forget how huge a show Glee was. I know Lea Michele is a very controversial figure, but in terms of overall narrative, the public are going to like it.
I just can't believe the producers ACTUALLY pulled the trigger and did it.
I do feel bad for Feldstein. She was given a part that she didn't suit just because she is "quirky" and "funny", which is fine when you're a sidekick in a comedy flick, but carrying a show eight times a week is a different animal, and it takes real star power. Especially when a show like Funny Girl is more of a vehicle than a show. It's like casting Dolly Levi, it needs someone who can take centre stage and be the star, and not many character actresses can do that.
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Post by stagebyte on Jul 11, 2022 23:44:27 GMT
I mean... we can't deny that this is the way the public wants it. We can't forget how huge a show Glee was. I know Lea Michele is a very controversial figure, but in terms of overall narrative, the public are going to like it. I just can't believe the producers ACTUALLY pulled the trigger and did it. I do feel bad for Feldstein. She was given a part that she didn't suit just because she is "quirky" and "funny", which is fine when you're a sidekick in a comedy flick, but carrying a show eight times a week is a different animal, and it takes real star power. Especially when a show like Funny Girl is more of a vehicle than a show. It's like casting Dolly Levi, it needs someone who can take centre stage and be the star, and not many character actresses can do that. I don’t feel bad for Beanie at all. Surely at the rehearsal stage it would’ve been apparent she didn’t have the vocals to take on this role. Someone should’ve had the balls to pull her then. Combination of ego and yes people. Stunt casts need to just do one. Bored by these ‘stars’ wanting a ‘go’ and the public who fuel this madness by worshipping the celeb culture. Quite like you wouldn’t employ Darren from the corner shop to plumb in your washing machine or rewire your house you’d employ a professional - Just employ a professional legit musical theatre performer to sing Dolly. br]
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Post by sph on Jul 12, 2022 0:35:38 GMT
I mean... we can't deny that this is the way the public wants it. We can't forget how huge a show Glee was. I know Lea Michele is a very controversial figure, but in terms of overall narrative, the public are going to like it. I just can't believe the producers ACTUALLY pulled the trigger and did it. I do feel bad for Feldstein. She was given a part that she didn't suit just because she is "quirky" and "funny", which is fine when you're a sidekick in a comedy flick, but carrying a show eight times a week is a different animal, and it takes real star power. Especially when a show like Funny Girl is more of a vehicle than a show. It's like casting Dolly Levi, it needs someone who can take centre stage and be the star, and not many character actresses can do that. I don’t feel bad for Beanie at all. Surely at the rehearsal stage it would’ve been apparent she didn’t have the vocals to take on this role. Someone should’ve had the balls to pull her then. Combination of ego and yes people. Stunt casts need to just do one. Bored by these ‘stars’ wanting a ‘go’ and the public who fuel this madness by worshipping the celeb culture. Quite like you wouldn’t employ Darren from the corner shop to plumb in your washing machine or rewire your house you’d employ a professional - Just employ a professional legit musical theatre performer to sing Dolly. br] But Beanie Feldstein wasn't a "stunt cast". That's the thing. She was a supporting character actress who was given a chance at a lead role against the odds.
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Post by LaLuPone on Jul 12, 2022 2:27:03 GMT
Not sure why I never got around to posting about it at the time but I saw the show with Beanie when I was in New York over Easter, so just days before the official opening. She was definitely a very likeable presence on stage and you wanted to root for her but in general she just didn’t cut it. The vocals were pretty weak by any standard, and for a role such as this just not good enough. She had some funny moments but it wasn’t enough to fully buy into her performance, and I don’t think she really brought the emotional depth to the scenes in Act II. I couldn’t help but compare her to Sheridan (whom I saw on tour in 2017 and a few times after on the proshot), and I felt Sheridan’s acting was miles ahead of Beanie’s. Sheridan was great at all the clowning in the show but could also break your heart by the end of it, which I think is so important to hold Act II together. Sheridan’s vocals were also definitely stronger than Beanie’s, and as most of us know Sheridan isn’t exactly a massive belter herself. I don’t think Lea will be able to top Sheridan’s acting chops in that role but her singing is going to be 100 times better than both of the performers I’ve seen so far. It remains to be seen how Lea will handle the comedy but I think people forget that Glee was a comedy at heart and Lea had no problem handling the comedy there, so although this is much more in your face, I don’t think it’s crazy to think she could rise to it. I saw Lea sing Don’t Rain On My Parade live when she was on tour with Darren Criss in 2018 and it was incredible, her voice really is 1 in a million. The issues with her as a person and whether she should have been cast is a whole other story, but based on the talent I don’t think there’s anyone better for the role and hearing her sing this score would be absolutely thrilling, and a one in a lifetime experience for me personally.
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Jul 12, 2022 5:57:17 GMT
Totally agree. She wants it, there’s a huge audience who want to see her do it and she’ll slay. It’s a no brainer. Wish I could go and see it.
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Post by sparky5000 on Jul 12, 2022 9:08:03 GMT
Whilst I think Lea will be great in the role, I do feel sorry for Beanie - with social media the way it is - which has seeped into gossipy nature of Broadway media also, with their clickbait takes - i don’t think she ever stood a chance. People were rooting for her to fail from the very start.
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Jul 12, 2022 9:52:21 GMT
Beanie now leaving even earlier… she’s out this month!
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Post by jaqs on Jul 12, 2022 9:54:56 GMT
The drama of it all it so fascinating. I love it. Guaranteed publicity, outrage and celebrations.
In less dramatic news current standby Julie Benko has said she’ll be doing the 5 weeks between and then Thursday nights from September.
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Jul 12, 2022 10:08:02 GMT
And Jane Lynch’s leaving date has been brought forward AGAIN. It’s becoming very clear that her and Lea are being kept completely apart.
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Post by couldileaveyou on Jul 12, 2022 10:43:23 GMT
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Post by dan28 on Jul 12, 2022 12:01:38 GMT
Lea will bring true talent and Broadway quality to the role. That is why I buy a ticket.
It is truly scandalous that this producer pushed his daughter, and tried to play the "woke" card to let her get away with the lack of talent and suitability for the role and music. That kind of behaviour needs to be stopped. And luckily, it seems that this problem solves itself.
If we would try to cancel every person who ever made a snarky remark or joke backstage, there would be no Broadway performers left. I care about quality, not about backstage sensitivity. That is why I love Patti Lupone too. Can't wait to see the show in good shape!
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Post by karloscar on Jul 12, 2022 12:09:38 GMT
There's no guarantee that Lea Michele can make this show a success. Good luck to them, but I'd be surprised if it makes it to the Christmas season
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Post by frappuccino on Jul 12, 2022 14:49:03 GMT
Not sure why I never got around to posting about it at the time but I saw the show with Beanie when I was in New York over Easter, so just days before the official opening. She was definitely a very likeable presence on stage and you wanted to root for her but in general she just didn’t cut it. The vocals were pretty weak by any standard, and for a role such as this just not good enough. She had some funny moments but it wasn’t enough to fully buy into her performance, and I don’t think she really brought the emotional depth to the scenes in Act II. I couldn’t help but compare her to Sheridan (whom I saw on tour in 2017 and a few times after on the proshot), and I felt Sheridan’s acting was miles ahead of Beanie’s. Sheridan was great at all the clowning in the show but could also break your heart by the end of it, which I think is so important to hold Act II together. Sheridan’s vocals were also definitely stronger than Beanie’s, and as most of us know Sheridan isn’t exactly a massive belter herself. I don’t think Lea will be able to top Sheridan’s acting chops in that role but her singing is going to be 100 times better than both of the performers I’ve seen so far. It remains to be seen how Lea will handle the comedy but I think people forget that Glee was a comedy at heart and Lea had no problem handling the comedy there, so although this is much more in your face, I don’t think it’s crazy to think she could rise to it. I saw Lea sing Don’t Rain On My Parade live when she was on tour with Darren Criss in 2018 and it was incredible, her voice really is 1 in a million. The issues with her as a person and whether she should have been cast is a whole other story, but based on the talent I don’t think there’s anyone better for the role and hearing her sing this score would be absolutely thrilling, and a one in a lifetime experience for me personally. I find Lea Michelle's voice impressive but to me there is a difference between being impressive and being entertaining. Lea Michelle has that Jennifer Hudson style which is screaming your head off. I admire her prowess but don't like her tone. There's no warmth to it unlike Lea Salonga. I guess that is also how I view Streisand /Idina Menzel though.
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Post by annette on Jul 12, 2022 15:08:56 GMT
Lea will bring true talent and Broadway quality to the role. That is why I buy a ticket. It is truly scandalous that this producer pushed his daughter, and tried to play the "woke" card to let her get away with the lack of talent and suitability for the role and music. That kind of behaviour needs to be stopped. And luckily, it seems that this problem solves itself. If we would try to cancel every person who ever made a snarky remark or joke backstage, there would be no Broadway performers left. I care about quality, not about backstage sensitivity. That is why I love Patti Lupone too. Can't wait to see the show in good shape! What was the 'woke' card in the case of Beanie Feldstein?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2022 17:39:55 GMT
I don’t feel bad for Beanie at all. Surely at the rehearsal stage it would’ve been apparent she didn’t have the vocals to take on this role. Someone should’ve had the balls to pull her then. Combination of ego and yes people. Stunt casts need to just do one. Bored by these ‘stars’ wanting a ‘go’ and the public who fuel this madness by worshipping the celeb culture. Quite like you wouldn’t employ Darren from the corner shop to plumb in your washing machine or rewire your house you’d employ a professional - Just employ a professional legit musical theatre performer to sing Dolly. br] But Beanie Feldstein wasn't a "stunt cast". That's the thing. She was a supporting character actress who was given a chance at a lead role against the odds. Beanie was OFFERED the role, without audition, because of her connections thanks to her very wealthy parents, and her best friend's producer father. It's pretty much common knowledge over here. No sympathy for her from me.
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Post by jojo on Jul 12, 2022 19:59:41 GMT
Offering actors roles without audition is not a kindness, not unless they've proven they've got range, or have done something similar.
I watched the early seasons of Glee and have kept vaguely abreast of some of the gossip. It's apparent that Lea wasn't the easiest to work with, but my main take-away is that it was a toxic work environment that was filled with very young and inexperienced performers who were not given the support they should have been given. I strongly suspect that a lot of the drama came down to misunderstandings and bad faith takes that could have been resolved if anyone in a leadership position cared. I know you shouldn't blame anyone's issues on any one thing, but things have been grim for a lot of that cast.
Whatever did happen then, a lot of time has passed and hopefully there's been a bit of reflection and a lot of growing up. And being less generous, one criticism of Lea which seemed to drive the bad blood was that she wanted to be treated as the lead and/or the big star of the show, so this should keep her happy.
I'd definitely want to see this if I were going to be in New York while it was on.
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Post by lolalou on Jul 13, 2022 0:09:08 GMT
I don’t feel bad for Beanie at all. Surely at the rehearsal stage it would’ve been apparent she didn’t have the vocals to take on this role. Someone should’ve had the balls to pull her then. Combination of ego and yes people. Stunt casts need to just do one. Bored by these ‘stars’ wanting a ‘go’ and the public who fuel this madness by worshipping the celeb culture. Quite like you wouldn’t employ Darren from the corner shop to plumb in your washing machine or rewire your house you’d employ a professional - Just employ a professional legit musical theatre performer to sing Dolly. br] But Beanie Feldstein wasn't a "stunt cast". That's the thing. She was a supporting character actress who was given a chance at a lead role against the odds. She’s done films but what is her musical theatre background? How is it not stunt casting if she has no MT prowess or background? I would say against the odds would be someone like me being cast. Not a film actress with a producer relative giving me a role.
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Jul 13, 2022 11:45:30 GMT
That article even manages to shade Sheridan’s Fanny. Beanie saw the show in London and thought it wasn’t good? Thanks Beanie! At least our Sheri didn’t get fired for not being able to sing it!
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Post by sph on Jul 13, 2022 11:54:22 GMT
But Beanie Feldstein wasn't a "stunt cast". That's the thing. She was a supporting character actress who was given a chance at a lead role against the odds. She’s done films but what is her musical theatre background? How is it not stunt casting if she has no MT prowess or background? I would say against the odds would be someone like me being cast. Not a film actress with a producer relative giving me a role. Well, she was in Hello Dolly on Broadway with Bette Midler. She isn't really a stunt cast as she isn't a "star name" and her role was not cast as a publicity stunt. I think people on here misunderstand exactly what stunt casting actually means. It means to be cast as a gimmick or publicity stunt, like Gemma Collins being given a role in Chicago. If they had wanted to "stunt cast" the show with a bigger name, they easily could have, but they chose Feldstein as an unconventional lead. If anything, Lea Michele is actually a "stunt casting" because of all the publicity surrounding it, but she has the talent and ability to deliver the performance.
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Post by marob on Jul 13, 2022 12:02:19 GMT
Maybe I need to watch the film, but my main memory of seeing it at the Menier was that it was a really weak show carried by Sheridan Smith’s personality.
I think the only time I’ve seen Beanie in anything was American Crime Story, which I thought she was really good in, but if her singing is so bad how did she get cast in the first place? (And in the Merrily We Roll Along film too?) I do quite admire the fact that Sonia Friedman chose to stand by her, she always seems like a really classy person, even if it hasn’t worked out in this instance.
Can’t help laughing at Lea Michele holding secret meetings with producers to tell them she’s available and interested. Someone’s desperate for a comeback after those bullying accusations.
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