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Post by Someone in a tree on May 14, 2021 12:52:53 GMT
I rather like the poster.
Judging from the artwork it's not going to be your usual production of Carousel and this excites me.
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Post by princeton on May 14, 2021 13:11:11 GMT
I rather like it too. The OAT tend to use unusual imagery in their initial marketing campaigns - Evita and the original JSC were of a similar type. I like the ghostly aspect, the sense of movement, the idea of characters being pulled in different directions (which is pretty true of all of them). The casting to date, Declan Bennett definitely isn't your usual musical theatre baritone but he does introspection very well - and Joanna Riding is always a plus point, and the artwork have actually piqued my interest.
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Post by ThereWillBeSun on May 14, 2021 13:20:34 GMT
I rather like the poster. Judging from the artwork it's not going your usual production of Carousel I have a feeling it’s going to be adapted / given a modern day context. Or maybe not - t’s a problematic musical. Taken the plunge and booked the final evening performance. Was tempted by grassbank seats but Evita last time, I kept getting cramp and backache - this show is considerably longer.
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Post by BurlyBeaR on May 14, 2021 13:21:39 GMT
Maybe that thingy round her in the poster is the ‘carousel’. Maybe it’s a metaphorical carousel!
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Post by mrbarnaby on May 14, 2021 14:04:41 GMT
That poster is awful!
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Post by juicy_but_terribly_drab on May 14, 2021 14:29:24 GMT
Carly Bawden's voice is so ridiculously good, I keep going back to her performance of Starchild in Ghost Quartet (god I wish there had been a recording) and I love Joanna Riding too (though now that I think about it is her voice really suited to Nettie?), but I just don't see this role for Declan Bennett? He was my least favourite part of JCS and I can't imagine his voice is very suitable here. Maybe he's hiding a more legit sound in there but I'm a bit wary, and he's also too old for the role so performance and voice have a lot of work to do to make up for that.
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Post by cjamess on May 14, 2021 14:37:49 GMT
hm, yes, bit strange that... I suppose its meant to be Louise but she is such a minor character in the musical and only appears in the last 30 mins it is a strange choice.And why the double image? If anything it would have been more appropriate if it had been Louise and Billy.I suppose it makes a change though from a wooden horse. Nat is a phenomenal dancer, perhaps Drew is taking the show in a different direction...
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Post by ThereWillBeSun on May 14, 2021 16:28:59 GMT
I rather like the poster. Judging from the artwork it's not going your usual production of Carousel I have a feeling it’s going to be adapted / given a modern day context. Or maybe not - t’s a problematic musical. Taken the plunge and booked the final evening performance. Was tempted by grassbank seats but Evita last time, I kept getting cramp and backache - this show is considerably longer. I take back my words - I hadn't read the WOS article: The show has also announced it will work with Refuge, a charity to aid those who are affected by domestic violence and other forms of gender-based violence. Sheadeer said today: "As with our previous reimagining of classic musicals, I am excited to remove the rose-tinted specs and examine this amazing piece through a 2021 lens. With new orchestrations by Tom Deering and Drew McOnie's distinctive choreographic language rethinking the role of dance in the storytelling, we look forward to inviting a new audience to Carousel. It's also important to us that, because of the story and content of Carousel, we are able to support the vital work of Refuge." - Good call.
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Post by couldileaveyou on Jun 16, 2021 15:55:43 GMT
Joining the already announced Carly Bawden (Julie Jordan), Declan Bennett (Billy Bigelow), John Pfumojena (Enoch Snow), Joanna Riding (Nettie Fowler) and Natasha May Thomas (Louise Bigelow) are Brendan Charleson (Mr Bascombe), Jo Eaton-Kent (Mrs Mullin), Sam Mackay (Jigger Craigin), Ediz Mahmut (Young Enoch) and Christina Modestou (Carrie Pipperidge).
Appearing in the ensemble are Chanelle Anthony, Craig Armstrong, William Atkinson, Shay Barclay, Sarah Benbelaid, Madeline Charlemagne, Freya Field, Sebastian Goffin, Amie Hibbert, Tim Hodges, Lukas Hunt, Tessa Kadler, Lindsay McAllister, Matthew McKenna, Jack Mitchell, Charlotte Riby, Lisa Ritchie and Daisy West.
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Post by stagebyte on Jun 16, 2021 21:31:02 GMT
Ooh Declan as Billy. Like him. Didn’t have him pegged as a legit baritone though. Thought he was more of folky/poppy type? It will be interesting to see what Drew McOnie does with the ballet though Look forward to this one
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Post by theoracle on Jun 30, 2021 16:49:54 GMT
soundcloud.com/user-487955219/tom-deering-on-carousel-orchestrationFinally had a chance to listen to the Open Air Theatre podcast episode. Musical Supervisor + Orchestrator has excluded strings from the score of this piece and there will be changes to the key too to the songs. Theres a sample of how If I Loved You too. Not sure how I feel about this as I was hoping for a full orchestra but will wait to see it in person before I give a full opinion.
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Post by couldileaveyou on Jun 30, 2021 17:11:27 GMT
soundcloud.com/user-487955219/tom-deering-on-carousel-orchestrationFinally had a chance to listen to the Open Air Theatre podcast episode. Musical Supervisor + Orchestrator has excluded strings from the score of this piece and there will be changes to the key too to the songs. Theres a sample of how If I Loved You too. Not sure how I feel about this as I was hoping for a full orchestra but will wait to see it in person before I give a full opinion. Yeah, a couple of days ago Rebecca Caine was raging against the lowered keys
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Jun 30, 2021 17:21:42 GMT
R&H with no strings?
Pass!
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Post by mrbarnaby on Jun 30, 2021 17:32:47 GMT
soundcloud.com/user-487955219/tom-deering-on-carousel-orchestrationFinally had a chance to listen to the Open Air Theatre podcast episode. Musical Supervisor + Orchestrator has excluded strings from the score of this piece and there will be changes to the key too to the songs. Theres a sample of how If I Loved You too. Not sure how I feel about this as I was hoping for a full orchestra but will wait to see it in person before I give a full opinion. Yeah, a couple of days ago Rebecca Caine was raging against the lowered keys Ugh. She is so self obsessed. She’s always raging about something or posting photos of herself back when she had a career.
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Post by jgblunners on Jun 30, 2021 18:41:52 GMT
soundcloud.com/user-487955219/tom-deering-on-carousel-orchestrationFinally had a chance to listen to the Open Air Theatre podcast episode. Musical Supervisor + Orchestrator has excluded strings from the score of this piece and there will be changes to the key too to the songs. Theres a sample of how If I Loved You too. Not sure how I feel about this as I was hoping for a full orchestra but will wait to see it in person before I give a full opinion. Ooh that's really interesting!
For those like me who don't want to listen to the whole thing, you can hear snippets of If I Loved You at timestamps 10:25 and 13:00. Deering says he's using guitars and a glass harmonium to create the 'shimmer' of the strings - you can particularly hear that in the clip at 13:00.
It's certainly not traditional but I think that's quite exciting - theatre would be boring if every production of a show was the same!
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Post by theoracle on Jun 30, 2021 18:46:13 GMT
It'll certainly be interesting. It will certainly require direction and conviction. Nevertheless, it'll be great to hear You'll Never Walk Alone NOT sung in a football context
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Post by mrbarnaby on Jun 30, 2021 18:59:06 GMT
So they are doing this with English accents?
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Jun 30, 2021 19:20:04 GMT
Maybe an Oklahoma style revival?
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Post by mrbarnaby on Jun 30, 2021 21:12:11 GMT
Maybe an Oklahoma style revival? It sounds very like that kind of vibe. Expect Clams to be served at the start of Act 2
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Post by barrowside on Jun 30, 2021 21:43:20 GMT
They're setting it in post-war England. There's a real colliery band /kitchen sink film vibe from the snippets of orchestrations I've dipped into on the podcast. It doesn't feel wrong - could be very exciting!
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Post by juicy_but_terribly_drab on Jun 30, 2021 22:35:10 GMT
This is my first Carousel so I was hoping it would be more traditional in terms of the music but I also don't hate how it sounds so I'm tentatively optimistic. Don't know how I feel about the change of setting though, just don't really see what that would change or add to the story? It's not crazy jarring from the snippets in that podcast but I find that songs intended for American pronunciation can sound awkward with an English one (Wicked is a big offender in this regard for me) so we'll just have to wait and see how it is in person I guess.
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Post by oxfordsimon on Jun 30, 2021 22:40:19 GMT
A Real Nice Clam Bake makes zero sense in a 1940s English setting...
Barm Cake instead perhaps?
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Post by FairyGodmother on Jun 30, 2021 23:04:05 GMT
If they're keeping the the cotton mills in, then the north west sounds good for that, so your barm cakes will fit right in!
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Post by Jon on Jun 30, 2021 23:20:48 GMT
Carousel being set in England will take some getting used to but I think it could work because unlike Oklahoma! and South Pacific, the setting isn't as important and the musical itself was adapted from Liliom which was set in Budapest.
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Post by FairyGodmother on Jun 30, 2021 23:25:42 GMT
I think you're right about moving the setting, it's just that some of the songs sound very American... "June is bursting out all over" doesn't sound quite the same.
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