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Post by danb on Oct 28, 2020 5:37:59 GMT
...whereas I was super pleased with the star baker. By the sounds of it (spoiler) her sponge was Phenomenal and ‘the best PH had tasted’ in however many years of Bake Off. Can’t really argue with that.
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Post by jaqs on Oct 28, 2020 7:59:42 GMT
The green blob technical looked revolting. I love pancakes but a couple on the plate fresh from the pan at a time, not cold and staked up and messed with.
I did wonder if the contestants didn’t know it was Japanese week when they decided to do pandas and Chinese fillings in the steamed buns. Why couldn’t it have been called Asian week or would that have meant that Paul couldn’t mention his trip to Japan 245 times?
Loved Laura’s show stopper even if it had collapsed a bit inside.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2020 8:09:20 GMT
...whereas I was super pleased with the star baker. By the sounds of it (spoiler) her sponge was Phenomenal and ‘the best PH had tasted’ in however many years of Bake Off. Can’t really argue with that. It didn't actually look like the toadstool she promised though - far too fat a stem for it to be at any risk of collapsing! She hypes up everything she does as being really difficult and risky and then it doesn't end up like that at all. I find her attitude really grating, so no doubt she will end up winning!
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Post by BoOverall on Oct 28, 2020 10:33:10 GMT
Love a steamed bun whether the Chinese bao or the Japanese hirata and the like and I rather liked some of the bakers’ signatures. Not so much those dry burgery ones though! I’d have preferred them to all really have gone more authentically Japanese with ingredients and flavours. Yeah, dusting a bit of matcha over a Pot Noodle does not make it Japanese! But a good steamed bun is a thing of joy: fond memories of making stuffed steamed buns for one of my later Bake Off auditions several years ago, back when it was on the BBC.
Hated the crap crepe cake: not so much what the bakers made of it but the cake itself. But as with a lot of Bake Off technicals/showstoppers in more recent years, they seem designed more to set them up for failure and make “good telly”. But I get that to a point. And it’s lovely when some nail or almost nail a technical - and there have been some real successes in the tent this year on that score.
The showstoppers were interesting. Love Lottie’s cake: not so much the apparent toadstoolyness of it - though it was nice - but the texture and flavour of that particular type of sponge is a dream.
Liking this series much more than the previous few series. There are some nice briefs for the challenges, the bakers are really lovely and even Hollywood is not as creepy as usual.
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Post by alece10 on Oct 28, 2020 11:31:58 GMT
There is a Japanese sweet shop opposite Charing Cross Station. They look beautiful but so expensive. Bought a single sweet to try and I think it cost just under a fiver. It was disgusting.
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Post by oxfordsimon on Oct 28, 2020 12:00:15 GMT
Lottie's toadstool presentation was really messy. That didn't get a mention.
Dave's fondant had some creases and he was pulled up on that.
Lottie's edit reminds me so much of Ruby Tandoh. Paul shows more leniency towards the attractive younger female.
I know it comes down to creating drama for the screen and they love to play up the sexual tension given Paul's offscreen antics. But Lottie is a messy baker and gets away with far more than the others.
And, yes, I too find her personality grating which doesn't help. But she really is not a strong contestant either in terms of technical proficiency or decorating skill
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2020 12:16:05 GMT
I agree she is being very favourably edited in terms of the baking, though I'm not sure the comments and interactions they are leaving in do her any favours at all (they have certainly put me right off her - her facial expression at being named Star Baker was a classic example).
I notice they didn't even mention her chips in the signature judging - I wonder was there a comment about the burnt ones that got edited out?
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Post by theglenbucklaird on Oct 28, 2020 12:47:44 GMT
I thought I would think the same about Lottie as most previous contributors. But she has won me round, very endearing personality, decent baker and loved her increasing levels of flirtiness with Mark. Disappointed Mark has gone this week but was his turn.
Yeah she is this years Ruby and she has mastered the Diana head on her shoulder plea when speaking with Paul Hollywood. Just like her lots.
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Post by lynette on Oct 28, 2020 15:28:20 GMT
Lottie's toadstool presentation was really messy. That didn't get a mention. Dave's fondant had some creases and he was pulled up on that. Lottie's edit reminds me so much of Ruby Tandoh. Paul shows more leniency towards the attractive younger female. I know it comes down to creating drama for the screen and they love to play up the sexual tension given Paul's offscreen antics. But Lottie is a messy baker and gets away with far more than the others. And, yes, I too find her personality grating which doesn't help. But she really is not a strong contestant either in terms of technical proficiency or decorating skill I think Lotte is a very strong contestant. That mushroom shaped cake was very good and to the brief and by all accounts tasted brilliant. She also did well in the other two challenges. As for sexual tension...I must be getting old cos all I can see or hear is silly old fashioned banter which I could certainly do without. The well documented Hollywood antics...well, who cares and frankly the presenting guys seems well on top of that, making him look daft at every possible turn. I’ve seen no bias towards Lotte. Anyone else?
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Post by oxfordsimon on Oct 28, 2020 19:01:31 GMT
There have been press articles about the perception of pro-Lottie bias, so it is not just me (and I picked up on it before I saw the coverage)
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Post by danb on Oct 28, 2020 20:18:01 GMT
It just strikes me as sour grapes and bitchy ‘not supporting strong women’. All of the women have been strong this year but if you dare to be young and attractive with it you should expect some push back? Its like the last 50 years never happened.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2020 0:21:14 GMT
It just strikes me as sour grapes and bitchy ‘not supporting strong women’. All of the women have been strong this year but if you dare to be young and attractive with it you should expect some push back? Its like the last 50 years never happened. As a woman almost the same age as Lottie (which surprises me, I thought she was younger), all of that has nothing whatsoever to do with me disliking her, so I would appreciate it if those of us who aren't fans aren't labelled "sour grapes and bitchy". That's a rather sweeping generalisation yet at the same time a narrow-minded statement. People are allowed to have different opinions. I just find her general demeanour annoying, end of story. Nothing to do with whether she is a strong woman or not - strong women come in all shapes, sizes and mannerisms and no-one has to like them all. And certainly nothing to do with whether she is attractive as on that score I really couldn't care less.
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Post by danb on Oct 29, 2020 6:04:22 GMT
It just strikes me as sour grapes and bitchy ‘not supporting strong women’. All of the women have been strong this year but if you dare to be young and attractive with it you should expect some push back? Its like the last 50 years never happened. As a woman almost the same age as Lottie (which surprises me, I thought she was younger), all of that has nothing whatsoever to do with me disliking her, so I would appreciate it if those of us who aren't fans aren't labelled "sour grapes and bitchy". That's a rather sweeping generalisation yet at the same time a narrow-minded statement. People are allowed to have different opinions. I just find her general demeanour annoying, end of story. Nothing to do with whether she is a strong woman or not - strong women come in all shapes, sizes and mannerisms and no-one has to like them all. And certainly nothing to do with whether she is attractive as on that score I really couldn't care less. It was just an observation, and as you say, my opinion. The same thing happened with Ruby Tandoh...I do think that they try and cast this character most years now, which does them a disservice. Being painted as anything to make you easily identifiable to the viewer must be frustrating but comes with the territory on Bake Off.
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Post by kathryn on Oct 29, 2020 11:00:35 GMT
Yes, do bear in mind that the idea of the 'younger woman contestant flirting with Paul Hollywood' is created in the editing room by the programme makers, and has sod all to do with the contestants themselves or even Paul.
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Post by theglenbucklaird on Oct 29, 2020 11:29:46 GMT
Was Candice prior to Ruby? Didn't want Ruby to get everything thrown at her for this 'role'? Who was initially first cast for this role?
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Post by lynette on Oct 29, 2020 16:42:13 GMT
All the contestants can be labelled as types seen before many times and on all of the ‘doing stuff’ programmes - the game oldie, the experienced gran, the gay Bloke with the lovely husband, the attractive gal, the far too young for his/her ability plus a few more. Some of them can cook and do actually the stuff they are asked to do. I suppose when they call auditions they divide them into groups and choose one of each or we would get 12 highly experienced middle aged female identifying above average cooks. Lottie’s efforts in J week were excellent.
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Post by kathryn on Oct 29, 2020 20:47:12 GMT
Have we had any lesbian ladies with lovely wives?
I can’t think of any, but my memory is lousy.
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Post by jaqs on Oct 29, 2020 20:54:16 GMT
Ruby though no lovely wife. I think Yan from last year has a wife though I don’t remember her being featured.
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Post by kathryn on Oct 30, 2020 12:02:27 GMT
Ruby wasn't out during the show, though - hence the Hollywood flirting accusations.
And I meant more in terms of the 'character types' that they cast for the show. There may be hundreds of lesbians with lovely wives on our TV screens, and we just don't know about it because they're not featured storylines (I take it we all realise that even reality and competition shows construct storylines...).
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Post by lynette on Nov 3, 2020 21:55:13 GMT
😳 Lottie.
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Post by oxfordsimon on Nov 3, 2020 22:56:33 GMT
She was the worst this week over all.
Fair result.
Why didn't they get some blast chillers installed? We all knew that it was going to be a very hot few days. Better freezers would have been the right choice to make.
The reason I won't try out for the show again until they stop setting people up to fail.
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Post by BoOverall on Nov 4, 2020 6:24:09 GMT
She was the worst this week over all. Fair result. Why didn't they get some blast chillers installed? We all knew that it was going to be a very hot few days. Better freezers would have been the right choice to make. The reason I won't try out for the show again until they stop setting people up to fail. Exactly. Very hard in that sort of situation not to go all out with creative ideas at the planning and practising stage, and then leave little room to adapt for “live issues”. But “simple” done very well, as Hermine did, really is key: at well-judged times! The right result for sure. Quite warmed to her as the weeks went on but this week did not go her way. Dave needs to up his game and rein in some of his flavour ideas. I think him or Laura might not last much longer. But the tent is a strange place: years ago I thought John Whaite was pretty weak most of the time but he won (and fairly ad square as his final bakes were terrific)
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Post by kathryn on Nov 4, 2020 7:39:54 GMT
She was the worst this week over all. Fair result. Why didn't they get some blast chillers installed? We all knew that it was going to be a very hot few days. Better freezers would have been the right choice to make. The reason I won't try out for the show again until they stop setting people up to fail. Playing Devil’s Advocate: It is notable that some people did manage to do very well even with the heat. And the contestants also all knew it was going to be a very hot few days (sod’s law - anything that requires it to be cool in the tent will take place on a hot day). So the people who planned their cakes with that in mind succeeded, and the ones who didn’t did badly. (Apart from Laura, who probably would have been ok if she’d pushed the right button on the ice cream maker. But she seems to keep making simple mistakes under the intense pressure, so I suspect she’ll fo next week.)
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Post by theglenbucklaird on Nov 4, 2020 8:49:10 GMT
She was the worst this week over all. Fair result. Why didn't they get some blast chillers installed? We all knew that it was going to be a very hot few days. Better freezers would have been the right choice to make. The reason I won't try out for the show again until they stop setting people up to fail. Playing Devil’s Advocate: It is notable that some people did manage to do very well even with the heat. And the contestants also all knew it was going to be a very hot few days (sod’s law - anything that requires it to be cool in the tent will take place on a hot day). So the people who planned their cakes with that in mind succeeded, and the ones who didn’t did badly. (Apart from Laura, who probably would have been ok if she’d pushed the right button on the ice cream maker. But she seems to keep making simple mistakes under the intense pressure, so I suspect she’ll fo next week.) Yep bakers choice of cake played a big part in the result. I'm going to stop calling out my new favourite as they keep getting worst baker. Rowan, then Mark then Lottie all gone. (Come on Hermine but sssssshhhhh)
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2020 8:50:22 GMT
Lottie's was just a bad idea that wouldn't have worked that well on a cooler day, never mind in a heat wave. She deserved to go.
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