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Post by oxfordsimon on Nov 4, 2020 10:01:24 GMT
She was the worst this week over all. Fair result. Why didn't they get some blast chillers installed? We all knew that it was going to be a very hot few days. Better freezers would have been the right choice to make. The reason I won't try out for the show again until they stop setting people up to fail. Playing Devil’s Advocate: It is notable that some people did manage to do very well even with the heat. And the contestants also all knew it was going to be a very hot few days (sod’s law - anything that requires it to be cool in the tent will take place on a hot day). So the people who planned their cakes with that in mind succeeded, and the ones who didn’t did badly. (Apart from Laura, who probably would have been ok if she’d pushed the right button on the ice cream maker. But she seems to keep making simple mistakes under the intense pressure, so I suspect she’ll fo next week.) Given you have to submit your recipes well in advance, you don't get to change things because of the weather. Yes planning is key. But until you experience the tent, you can't fully prepare
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Post by kathryn on Nov 4, 2020 10:12:55 GMT
Playing Devil’s Advocate: It is notable that some people did manage to do very well even with the heat. And the contestants also all knew it was going to be a very hot few days (sod’s law - anything that requires it to be cool in the tent will take place on a hot day). So the people who planned their cakes with that in mind succeeded, and the ones who didn’t did badly. (Apart from Laura, who probably would have been ok if she’d pushed the right button on the ice cream maker. But she seems to keep making simple mistakes under the intense pressure, so I suspect she’ll fo next week.) Given you have to submit your recipes well in advance, you don't get to change things because of the weather. Yes planning is key. But until you experience the tent, you can't fully prepare Sure - but anyone who watches the show knows that they all complain about how hot it gets, year after year. It's filmed in summer, in a tent, with lighting all around and 6 ovens going..... Anything involving something that needs to be cold to sculpt is going to be a struggle even if the weather cooperates!
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Post by oxfordsimon on Nov 4, 2020 10:59:44 GMT
Lottie absolutely made the wrong call in trying to scuplt ice cream. A firmer set recipe in a mould would have been the only possible way to achieve that design.
Ice cream in that tent never goes well. They put it in for drama and drama alone.
If they wanted them to do well, blast chillers would be there. Plus bigger freezers in general. Even those high end domestic ones will never cope with extreme conditions
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Post by firefingers on Nov 4, 2020 11:03:23 GMT
Should have been Dave getting the heave ho for his guff quiches and a doughnut that was a country mile from the rest. Think he'll be gone next week, Laura the week after.
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Post by lynette on Nov 5, 2020 11:56:57 GMT
Of course they should have got air con and bigger freezers in. Just goes to show that this isn’t about baking but about personality which is why we watch it.
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Post by theglenbucklaird on Nov 5, 2020 13:28:45 GMT
Should have been Dave getting the heave ho for his guff quiches and a doughnut that was a country mile from the rest. Think he'll be gone next week, Laura the week after. One good week and one in the final?
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Post by digipal on Nov 5, 2020 19:44:55 GMT
I'll miss Lottie, she had a great personality and I loved her snarky asides. Everyone else, to use a baking ingredient term, IMHO, is just a bit vanilla
Seriously though, an ice cream challenge in a tent without air conditioning, on one of the hottest days of the year, with only a domestic fridge's freezer cabinet and an ice cream machine is just crazy
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Post by oxfordsimon on Nov 10, 2020 22:47:19 GMT
There is no way you can make a Sussex Pond Pudding in that amount of time. 3.5 hours steaming is what you need.
And I don't see the point of jelly art.
Not a great week of challenges.
Probably the right result
Shame though as I had him as a possible winner
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Post by sfsusan on Nov 10, 2020 23:31:22 GMT
There is no way you can make a Sussex Pond Pudding in that amount of time. 3.5 hours steaming is what you need. Yes, it seemed unfair since nobody had enough time to do it properly. But I suppose they consider it like the ice cream challenge on such a hot day... everyone is equally disadvantaged, so they judge against the other contestants, not against the ideal. I would love to try a Sussex Pond Pudding, though... the example one looked delicious! I've never seen it on a dessert menu, though... I gather it's not common?
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Post by oxfordsimon on Nov 10, 2020 23:36:54 GMT
You won't see it on a menu very often as it isn't something you can serve as portions easily
It makes a great family pud and is very easy to do.
Just takes time
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Post by emsworthian on Nov 11, 2020 10:13:40 GMT
I seem to remember that it was fashionable in the 80s and featured on restaurant menus. I assume for individual portions they use a section of lemon rather than a whole one.
As OxfordSimon said, it is not that difficult to do. I was surprised that they seem thrown by pleating the grease-proof paper as that is a fairly basic skill and yet the contestants achieve complex technical tasks in other challenges that I couldn't possibly do.
I once served Sussex Pond Pudding it to my family and the air inside the lemon made the suet pudding pulsate as if it were alive, which freaked out my father.
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Post by theglenbucklaird on Nov 11, 2020 10:26:36 GMT
There is no way you can make a Sussex Pond Pudding in that amount of time. 3.5 hours steaming is what you need. And I don't see the point of jelly art. Not a great week of challenges. Probably the right result Shame though as I had him as a possible winner This
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Post by kathryn on Nov 11, 2020 10:59:36 GMT
There is no way you can make a Sussex Pond Pudding in that amount of time. 3.5 hours steaming is what you need. And I don't see the point of jelly art. Not a great week of challenges. Probably the right result Shame though as I had him as a possible winner I was just going to say that the BBC website says it takes 2.5 hours, and then realised that the actual recipe says 3.5 hours and it's the way that Google interprets the information that makes it show 2.5 in search results: www.google.com/search?q=How+long+does+a+sussex+pond+pudding+take+to+steam&rlz=1C1GGRV_enGB768GB768&oq=How+long+does+a+sussex+pond+pudding+take+to+steam&aqs=chrome..69i57.11657j0j15&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8But I guess the real test was: who knows enough about steam puddings to realise that they take much longer to cook and the one that'll be in the steamer the longest will win? It does amaze me how often the contestants say they've never seen or heard of something before. Surely you spend a bit of time swotting up on what's in Leith's Cookery Bible before you enter? The point of jelly art is to make something the viewer can judge easily, I think, since the actual important bit (tasting) we can't do. Some of them did look very pretty.
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Post by lynette on Nov 12, 2020 14:50:00 GMT
I also don't see the point of setting them up for failure by not allowing enough time. The whole shebang is edited for viewers anyway, we don’t have to sit there for three and a half hours so why not give them the time and get good results?
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Post by oxfordsimon on Nov 18, 2020 14:24:14 GMT
Well that Danish horn thing was just odd. Certainly not patisserie.
It must have been a close call to send Hermon home. She did have a shocking showstopper and only herself to blame given the last minute change of recipe.
I find it hard to imagine anything other than a male winner given how messy Laura has been thus far.
But the lack of kitchen time between recording sessions is really showing now. Inevitable under the circumstances.
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Post by kathryn on Nov 18, 2020 14:44:55 GMT
Not patisserie, but comedy gold, so we'll forgive them.
Agree that one of the guys is surely going to win.
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Post by lynette on Nov 18, 2020 18:58:21 GMT
Gonna be the young 'un
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Post by danb on Nov 18, 2020 19:04:09 GMT
I do hope so. I find the other guys baking very ordinary.
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Post by alece10 on Nov 18, 2020 19:13:40 GMT
Those horn of plenty things were hilarious, but I do have a dirty mind. I'm hoping for Peter to be the winner. 20 years old and producing that quality of stuff. Impressive!
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Post by theglenbucklaird on Nov 18, 2020 20:32:29 GMT
David and Laura in the final. Wow
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Post by justfran on Nov 18, 2020 20:50:02 GMT
I think the wrong person was sent home yesterday. Peter really upped his game and had a great “week”. He’d be my choice to win. I hope it’s a decent showstopper for the final, some choices of challenges have been really odd in the past.
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Post by karloscar on Nov 18, 2020 21:06:20 GMT
If Laura somehow wins, the possibilities for her winners cook book could be hilarious if they illustrate it showing her method of working.
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Post by vickyg on Nov 19, 2020 9:28:17 GMT
I'm calling it now, I think David will win! It's the kind of upset that often happens and I feel like Peter (who IMO would be the rightful winner) peaked a week early and had an exceptional week.
I also thought the wrong person went and I really don't like how they don't take previous weeks into consideration. It leads to what's happened this time, someone who has had quite a few disasters making it to the final because there was always someone worse and someone who has been great throughout having one bad week and going because there are no longer enough people to mitigate the damage.
But as Mary Berry says, it's only a cake!
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Post by kathryn on Nov 19, 2020 10:08:32 GMT
I'm calling it now, I think David will win! It's the kind of upset that often happens and I feel like Peter (who IMO would be the rightful winner) peaked a week early and had an exceptional week. I also thought the wrong person went and I really don't like how they don't take previous weeks into consideration. It leads to what's happened this time, someone who has had quite a few disasters making it to the final because there was always someone worse and someone who has been great throughout having one bad week and going because there are no longer enough people to mitigate the damage. But as Mary Berry says, it's only a cake! Ok, so, on a merit-based competition basis I agree with you, but as a TV watcher I know that it's more entertaining to have someone in the final who'll probably flounder and panic but might just pull it out of the bag. If there was a big cash prize at stake than the fairness element would be more important than the entertainment value, but the prize is a cake stand and a bunch of flowers. Obviously some contestants have managed to build careers off the back of the show - but any post-series media career opportunity is based on how entertaining people find you to watch.
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Post by oxfordsimon on Nov 24, 2020 22:50:10 GMT
After watching the final, I wasn't expecting that result.
Pleased but surprised
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