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Post by joem on Jun 21, 2019 23:49:08 GMT
About bloody time! How on earth can someone who doesn't believe Shakespeare wrote any plays be a paid member of a theatre company dedicated to performing Shakespeare's plays!!!
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Post by oxfordsimon on Jun 21, 2019 23:52:33 GMT
And in what meaningful sense was he a member of the RSC when he last performed with them 30 years ago?
This is all about brand Rylance and trying to appear virtuous.
The RSC have had close ties to BP for a long, long time.
Had he only just noticed? Why didn't he resign when the sponsorship first started?
Sorry but this is nothing but a publicity stunt. Yes, the issue of the environment is important. Has this done anything to bring about any meaningful change? Not in the slightest.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2019 8:04:03 GMT
If you read the Guardian article, Rylance explains his thinking on this very clearly. He sought input from environmentalists. He tried to make changes from the inside. He was promised certain things and waited. From his point of view they didn’t deliver, so he decided enough was enough and quit. He did say he hoped this action would encourage other associate artists to speak up. So I suppose the meaningful change may yet appear if they choose to pick up the gauntlet in sufficient numbers...
Rylance is a committed activist on many issues so it’s no surprise he did this. Normally I can’t stand activists because they’re preachy and smug, thereby damaging their cause. Rylance is definitely different - he states clear, personal arguments and tends to pose questions instead of lecturing. In short, he respects people’s intelligence. So while I don’t necessarily agree with his stance, I admire his conviction. And he’s certainly done more to get me thinking about environmental issues than the numpties who tried to bring London to a standstill or the even bigger numpties who gatecrashed the Chancellor’s speech the other day.
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Post by NeilVHughes on Jun 22, 2019 10:02:15 GMT
Always believed Mark Rylance is a person of integrity and is willing to live his life by his own values.
He is in a fortunate position to be able to make choices but has always appeared to live his own life, an unique career through the Globe and his subsequent selective choice of parts, became a Hollywood star whilst remaining loyal to the ones who gave him his breaks, returning to the Globe last year (travelling to the Globe on his Brompton, had to do a double take as he shot by) and a highlight for me being able to mingle with him during Shakespeare in the Abbey.
Last year he did a Stop the War benefit at The Park, he was totally committed and introduced me to the work of Howard Zinn, consolidating my views and abhorrence of the arms industry. He also did another one at the Shaw which I was unable to attend and his cameo in the Pinter season was a continuation of these values.
I believe he did try to influence the RSC and in the end his integrity came first, being in a fortunate position to turn down potential work, he also understands that this position gives him the opportunity/need to be heard and influence public opinion on causes which he believes in.
In the Years and Years thread we agreed that we can all make small changes, we need the ones who can to be our voices for greater change.
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Post by crowblack on Jun 22, 2019 10:14:50 GMT
How many other actors with the same opinions can actually afford to walk away from potential RSC work It's an interesting line. Rylance and Emma Thompson are powerful enough to be able to do this, and it's good that they can, but at the same time one can't help feeling actors who don't have the career and financial security to say no to work then start to appear morally grubby.
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Post by lynette on Jun 22, 2019 14:41:10 GMT
About bloody time! How on earth can someone who doesn't believe Shakespeare wrote any plays be a paid member of a theatre company dedicated to performing Shakespeare's plays!!! He did a marvellous job at The Globe. Never understood his stance on the authorship. Smacked of extreme elitism to me. The Globe brought him to international limelight. So a good bet on his part. RSC not so much, eh?
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Post by crowblack on Jun 22, 2019 14:55:52 GMT
Smacked of extreme elitism to me. It's always a weird one, that - it's like people want to be 'anti-Establishment' by insisting that only someone from the Establishment could have produced that work!
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Post by Phantom of London on Jun 22, 2019 16:54:05 GMT
Mark Rylance raises a brilliant and a prudent point and that is organisations that maybe contreversial, hide behind arts sponsorship to ingratiate themselves to the public.
Unfortunately in little over 50 years human beings have done a terrific job of destroying the planet by putting themselves first, down to using palm oils and single use plastics which are the topical environment issues at the moment, to something like using slug killer pellets, that have done a terrific job of killing our songbirds and hedgehogs, which did a brilliant job of eating the slugs originally.
I shudder when I go to the theatre and see a great set of wood, which may end in a skip in 6 weeks time, lucky some theatres are getting on board with sustainability like the Almeida.
If you don’t listen to Mark Rylance, listen to one of the greatest man alive and that is David Attenbourgh.
P.S. Mark Rylance was using the same Brompton cycle in New York when he was in Twelve Night/Richard III at the Belasco
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Post by learfan on Jun 22, 2019 20:09:32 GMT
Such a non story! He hasnt Appeared at the rsc for 30 years plus he is denier.
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Post by Jan on Jun 27, 2019 17:00:09 GMT
I see Miriam Margolyes has joined him - don’t remember her ever appearing at the RSC so not much of a sacrifice for her. She shuttles between her homes in UK, Australia and Tuscany - wonder who she thinks makes jet fuel ?
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Post by learfan on Jun 27, 2019 19:28:42 GMT
What a joke! She's never been anywhere near the RSC. Just odd bit of self publicity from her. I see your mate Lipman is joining the conversation.
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Post by xanady on Jun 27, 2019 19:48:07 GMT
The irony of course is that those who disagree with Rylance are giving him and his views more and more publicity by dissing him publically...it was ever thus.
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Post by londonpostie on Jun 27, 2019 20:12:51 GMT
Without getting into a he-said, she-said, some might argue the point is there is no point in making a stance like this unless you are famous (and almost by definition in this game: rich). Anyone got time for one of my Mark Rylance stories? Good! Over the years our paths have often crossed, most of the time when our cycling commutes have coincided (presumably him to The Globe or another rehearsal space in town). Fwiw, as well as seeing him at traffic lights he literally cycles past my window as it's the only sensible route into town from Herne Hill. Anyway ... a few years ago now ... I had taken *a break* from theatre but could still afford discounted gym membership and came to love Pilates. Over time a bunch of us became regulars, and we would chat a while after class outside the front where everyone locks their bikes. During the time this little social/exercise group was happening Rylance began to appear - first to ask at the gym about one-to-one personal trainer sessions, then to start them. He wanted to do an hours boxing, I think once a week though it might have been twice. One of the gym instructors was able to help. Coincidentally, he finished his boxing sessions when one of the regular Pilates classes was finishing and my group would be chatting as he came out. Not sure anyone else recognised him. After a while he'd say hello, just in passing - a wry smile, I think, as if to say how have old fellars like us got to this .. went on for a long while, months. He always took the chance to say hello. Nice man, I thought. Had no idea then, thought about it years later; turns out this was during his run in Jerusalem at the Royal Court /the end
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Post by Jan on Jun 28, 2019 6:19:35 GMT
What a joke! She's never been anywhere near the RSC. Just odd bit of self publicity from her. I see your mate Lipman is joining the conversation. From The Times: "Lipman, an actress and comedian loved for her role in the BT adverts"
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Post by Phantom of London on Jun 29, 2019 14:59:43 GMT
I see Miriam Margolyes has joined him - don’t remember her ever appearing at the RSC so not much of a sacrifice for her. She shuttles between her homes in UK, Australia and Tuscany - wonder who she thinks makes jet fuel ? To be fair when she ‘shuttles between her homes in the UK, Australia and Tuscany,’ she could pay to carbon offset her ‘jet fuel.’
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Post by oxfordsimon on Jun 29, 2019 15:26:50 GMT
But having enough money to pay for sufficient offsets for the environmental impact of her travel choices is a clear sign of privilege. She can afford to play gesture politics without it impacting on the way she lives. And yes, she has worked for that money. But there are too many in her profession who cannot afford to make big sweeping gestures like that.
It is essentially more about Miriam and how she wants to present herself than anything else.
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Post by lynette on Jun 30, 2019 20:39:38 GMT
O and look who has a play coming on at The Park. Nice to get your photo in the paper now and then, isn’t it?
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