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Post by sph on Nov 8, 2024 4:13:01 GMT
Unfortunately, she’s just been asking Russell Brand where she can get a Donald Trump hat on Instagram. That’s a shame… I'm hoping it was a misunderstanding. The hat said "Make Jesus First Again" or something like that, and maybe she just saw it and thought it was a Christian thing? Maybe she didn't connect it with Trump at first glance? She hasn't posted anything else supporting Trump has she? So it would be weird for her to randomly start supporting him via Russell Brand's insta.
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Post by osdtdg on Nov 8, 2024 4:17:21 GMT
Unfortunately, she’s just been asking Russell Brand where she can get a Donald Trump hat on Instagram. That’s a shame… I'm hoping it was a misunderstanding. The hat said "Make Jesus First Again" or something like that, and maybe she just saw it and thought it was a Christian thing? Maybe she didn't connect it with Trump at first glance? She hasn't posted anything else supporting Trump has she? So it would be weird for her to randomly start supporting him via Russell Brand's insta. She liked a fairly obvious connecting post from RFK Jr that was praising and planning with Tucker Carlson. So, that's less ambiguous I think
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Post by theatrefan62 on Nov 8, 2024 5:42:49 GMT
She came out today as a right-wing Trunp supporter. Her right, but what a turn off. Actually what's worse is she is a follower and supporter of Russell Brand.
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Post by blaxx on Nov 8, 2024 5:48:21 GMT
She came out today as a right-wing Trunp supporter. Her right, but what a turn off. Actually what's worse is she is a follower and supporter of Russell Brand. She needs to turn off her IG comments. The official Sunset page had to turn them all off. The Broadway community doesn't forgive easy, she's going to need a good PR team.
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Post by theatrefan62 on Nov 8, 2024 6:25:51 GMT
I don't agree people's political beliefs should impact their career if there is no correlation. But that's not the world we live in, and the broadway community is especially aggressive in these types of situations. Made worse for her that her, and the shows, fans skew heavily into the female, and gay,demographics.
For me the more concerning aspect is supporting Brand. She is in the entertainment industry, Brand has been a massive open secret for years. She can't not have known. This on top of supporting Trump really compounds everything. Nicole has never been super warm or likeable, but this will really put off even more people. The comments on her social media are damning.
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Post by max on Nov 8, 2024 6:52:58 GMT
I don't agree people's political beliefs should impact their career if there is no correlation. But that's not the world we live in, and the broadway community is especially aggressive in these types of situations. Made worse for her that her, and the shows, fans skew heavily into the female, and gay,demographics. For me the more concerning aspect is supporting Brand. She is in the entertainment industry, Brand has been a massive open secret for years. She can't not have known. This on top of supporting Trump really compounds everything. Nicole has never been super warm or likeable, but this will really put off even more people. The comments on her social media are damning. Congratulations on the Tony Award, Audra.
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Post by BVM on Nov 8, 2024 7:08:27 GMT
So - before we all get too excited - we don't know what her comment means. She's SO into Jesus and God etc, maybe she literally did just want a hat going on about Jesus.
Granted that seems improbable so yes, she could be a Trump supporter (which would be a shame) and a Brand supported (which would be an even bigger shame).
However - she isn't exactly the first artiste (or sports person) to have bonkers views - highly artistic people have some very odd beliefs that many of us can't quite comprehend. (The number of them who were anti-vax during Covid blew my mind).
Also completely bonkers woman playing completely bonkers role supporting completely bonkers politician (in a country where more than half the population do) is not really that shocking.
I absolutely can't STAND Trump (or Brand) but it's a free world and a democracy (and sorry but some of the nonsense on SM - I don't believe for a second that Mother doesn't love the gays) - is hysterical.
Much like Patti being mental doesn't take away from her Norma, this doesn't take away from Nicole's.
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Post by max on Nov 8, 2024 7:10:15 GMT
So - before we all get too excited - we don't know what her comment means. She's SO into Jesus and God etc, maybe she literally did just want a hat going on about Jesus. Granted that seems improbable so yes, she could be a Trump supporter (which would be a shame) and a Brand supported (which would be an even bigger shame). However - she isn't exactly the first artiste (or sports person) to have bonkers views - highly artistic people have some very odd beliefs that many of us can't quite comprehend. (The number of them who were anti-vax during Covid blew my mind). Also completely bonkers woman playing completely bonkers role supporting completely bonkers politician (in a country where more than half the population do) is not really that shocking.I absolutely can't STAND Trump (or Brand) but it's a free world and a democracy (and sorry but some of the nonsense on SM - I don't believe for a second that Mother doesn't love the gays) - are hysterical). Much like Patti being mental doesn't take away from her Norma, this doesn't take away from Nicole's.Makes it easy for people to dismiss her as an actress though (unfairly or not). Yes she's got the vocal prowess, but if 'bonkers' is the let off it could look like she's just been playing dress-up in her own wish-fulfillment fantasy of greatness and her self-pitying struggle to be 'seen for me'. Acting's being 'seen as someone else' Nicole, and if you're going to chart the implosion of a star in 2hrs every night, you can leave that on stage; you don't have to repeat it at lightning speed in real life too.
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Post by BVM on Nov 8, 2024 7:10:35 GMT
Also you kinda have to laugh - I did think an ALW Sunset (or indeed any post Phantom show) on Broadway without a huge controversy felt too good to be true 😂😭🤣😱!!!
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Post by osdtdg on Nov 8, 2024 7:14:19 GMT
So - before we all get too excited - we don't know what her comment means. She's SO into Jesus and God etc, maybe she literally did just want a hat going on about Jesus. Granted that seems improbable so yes, she could be a Trump supporter (which would be a shame) and a Brand supported (which would be an even bigger shame). However - she isn't exactly the first artiste (or sports person) to have bonkers views - highly artistic people have some very odd beliefs that many of us can't quite comprehend. (The number of them who were anti-vax during Covid blew my mind). Also completely bonkers woman playing completely bonkers role supporting completely bonkers politician (in a country where more than half the population do) is not really that shocking. I absolutely can't STAND Trump (or Brand) but it's a free world and a democracy (and sorry but some of the nonsense on SM - I don't believe for a second that Mother doesn't love the gays) - are hysterical). Much like Patti being mental doesn't take away from her Norma, this doesn't take away from Nicole's. She has also liked posts by RFK Jr. suppporting DJT and Tucker Carlson. I don't think there's any way she couldn't have known. (Also, Russel has - among other conspiracy things - jumped majorly onto the Trump bandwagon [and not quietly either], so even interacting with him is frankly a slight red flag]
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Post by BVM on Nov 8, 2024 7:19:17 GMT
Well, it’s a real real shame. No doubt about it.
But let’s keep it in perspective.
(And as I said, really not as mind blowing as the socials shrieking would have us believe).
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Nov 8, 2024 7:22:53 GMT
Can we please be wary of discussing people as if they’ve been found guilty of crimes that they haven’t even been formally charged with, let alone found guilty of. Thanks.
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Post by theatrefan62 on Nov 8, 2024 7:25:15 GMT
So - before we all get too excited - we don't know what her comment means. She's SO into Jesus and God etc, maybe she literally did just want a hat going on about Jesus. Granted that seems improbable so yes, she could be a Trump supporter (which would be a shame) and a Brand supported (which would be an even bigger shame). However - she isn't exactly the first artiste (or sports person) to have bonkers views - highly artistic people have some very odd beliefs that many of us can't quite comprehend. (The number of them who were anti-vax during Covid blew my mind). Also completely bonkers woman playing completely bonkers role supporting completely bonkers politician (in a country where more than half the population do) is not really that shocking.I absolutely can't STAND Trump (or Brand) but it's a free world and a democracy (and sorry but some of the nonsense on SM - I don't believe for a second that Mother doesn't love the gays) - are hysterical). Much like Patti being mental doesn't take away from her Norma, this doesn't take away from Nicole's.Makes it easy for people to dismiss her as an actress though (unfairly or not). Yes she's got the vocal prowess, but if 'bonkers' is the let off it could look like she's just been playing dress-up in her own wish-fulfillment fantasy of greatness and her self-pitying struggle to be 'seen for me'. Acting's being 'seen as someone else' Nicole, and if you're going to chart the implosion of a star in 2hrs every night, you can leave that on stage; you don't have to repeat it at lightning speed in real life too. That's how I did feel about her Norma tbh. It felt very much her playing an exaggerated form of herself.
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Post by ceebee on Nov 8, 2024 7:26:50 GMT
Given that Trump won the election, there's a 50/50 chance that she is or isn't a supporter. But who cares? My social feeds are littered with people squealing about the result, as if somehow wailing or gnashing will change it. Nicole is entitled to whatever views she has and doesn't need to explain them (whatever they are). I like that she has the courage to not give a fig for pandering to the PC brigade.
It's a curious thing that so many actors feel the need to indulge us with their views like we are all stuck in some kind of moderated echo chamber, but the moment something mildly contentious is said or done then the pile-on happens.
Nicole may yet win the Tony, but having bagged the Olivier already, she also might not give a monkey's.
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Post by max on Nov 8, 2024 7:29:40 GMT
Also you kinda have to laugh - I did think an ALW Sunset (or indeed any post Phantom show) on Broadway without a huge controversy felt too good to be true 😂😭🤣😱!!! I was thinking the same. In different forms of social media ALW's shows have been seriously impacted. 'Love Never Dies', 'Cinderella', and now 'Sunset Blvd'. I feel sorry for her fellow cast members. I found it odd that Betty's line 'no one takes a Black friend to a restaurant' was cut, as it fits the tougher more clued up Betty that this production went for. I can't remember, but I suppose the 'no one ever mentions communists' line was cut as well. Without those lines, I can't see what would prompt politics to be discussed in that rehearsal room. Now it's for the dressing rooms - how uncomfortable.
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Post by theatrefan62 on Nov 8, 2024 7:30:32 GMT
Given that Trump won the election, there's a 50/50 chance that she is or isn't a supporter. But who cares? My social feeds are littered with people squealing about the result, as if somehow wailing or gnashing will change it. Nicole is entitled to whatever views she has and doesn't need to explain them (whatever they are). I like that she has the courage to not give a fig for pandering to the PC brigade. It's a curious thing that so many actors feel the need to indulge us with their views like we are all stuck in some kind of moderated echo chamber, but the moment something mildly contentious is said or done then the pile-on happens. Nicole may yet win the Tony, but having bagged the Olivier already, she also might not give a monkey's. While that may all be true, that's not how the broadway community works. Ask Laura Osnes.
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Post by ceebee on Nov 8, 2024 7:36:46 GMT
Given that Trump won the election, there's a 50/50 chance that she is or isn't a supporter. But who cares? My social feeds are littered with people squealing about the result, as if somehow wailing or gnashing will change it. Nicole is entitled to whatever views she has and doesn't need to explain them (whatever they are). I like that she has the courage to not give a fig for pandering to the PC brigade. It's a curious thing that so many actors feel the need to indulge us with their views like we are all stuck in some kind of moderated echo chamber, but the moment something mildly contentious is said or done then the pile-on happens. Nicole may yet win the Tony, but having bagged the Olivier already, she also might not give a monkey's. While that may all be true, that's not how the broadway community works. Ask Laura Osnes. I agree - but perhaps NS doesn't care enough to be silenced just to please a vocal half of her audience.
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Post by max on Nov 8, 2024 7:38:24 GMT
Given that Trump won the election, there's a 50/50 chance that she is or isn't a supporter. But who cares? My social feeds are littered with people squealing about the result, as if somehow wailing or gnashing will change it. Nicole is entitled to whatever views she has and doesn't need to explain them (whatever they are). I like that she has the courage to not give a fig for pandering to the PC brigade. It's a curious thing that so many actors feel the need to indulge us with their views like we are all stuck in some kind of moderated echo chamber, but the moment something mildly contentious is said or done then the pile-on happens. Nicole may yet win the Tony, but having bagged the Olivier already, she also might not give a monkey's. 'littered with' & 'PC brigage' are dismissive, but fair enough, you are dismissing them - and it's your social media feed. But this is more than people having a flounce. Your words to characterise them "squealing", "wailing" "gnashing" really hit viscerally with me. Thinking about abortion rights, and coat hangers.
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Nov 8, 2024 7:39:17 GMT
Before this discussion goes any further, please do not make any statements suggesting that anyone has committed crimes that they haven’t been charged with and found guilty of. Thanks.
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Post by BVM on Nov 8, 2024 7:39:57 GMT
Also you kinda have to laugh - I did think an ALW Sunset (or indeed any post Phantom show) on Broadway without a huge controversy felt too good to be true 😂😭🤣😱!!! I was thinking the same. In different forms of social media ALW's shows have been seriously impacted. 'Love Never Dies', 'Cinderella', and now 'Sunset Blvd'. I feel sorry for her fellow cast members. I found it odd that Betty's line 'no one takes a Black friend to a restaurant' was cut, as it fits the tougher more clued up Betty that this production went for. I can't remember, but I suppose the 'no one ever mentions communists' line was cut as well. Without those lines, I can't see what would prompt politics to be discussed in that rehearsal room. Now it's for the dressing rooms - how uncomfortable. Yeah the communist line has gone.
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Post by theatrefan62 on Nov 8, 2024 7:40:43 GMT
While that may all be true, that's not how the broadway community works. Ask Laura Osnes. I agree - but perhaps NS doesn't care enough to be silenced just to please a vocal half of her audience. Maybe, but if she wants to work on broadway again she might. Her career before sunset wasn't exactly steller. I don't know how it will hurt her tony chances. You'd have to be an idiot not to see that's what she's after. It will depend on how other performances are received in the season. It's made worse because everything is so raw over there right now and emotions are very high. And likely will be for months. I hope you will remember your comments though when someone disagrees with a show you like lol
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Post by osdtdg on Nov 8, 2024 7:46:20 GMT
Given that Trump won the election, there's a 50/50 chance that she is or isn't a supporter. But who cares? My social feeds are littered with people squealing about the result, as if somehow wailing or gnashing will change it. Nicole is entitled to whatever views she has and doesn't need to explain them (whatever they are). I like that she has the courage to not give a fig for pandering to the PC brigade. It's a curious thing that so many actors feel the need to indulge us with their views like we are all stuck in some kind of moderated echo chamber, but the moment something mildly contentious is said or done then the pile-on happens. Nicole may yet win the Tony, but having bagged the Olivier already, she also might not give a monkey's. Some people do not have the privilege to ignore results and continue life as normal. So, yes, they are going to be angry, scared and all sorts. Characterising them as "squealing" for being genuinely scared for the future is not fair. Fine, you are not; others are and Trump - and others - have said they will ban abortion (and actively campaigned on doing so). Squealing is unfair and callous when people are in genuine fear imho. But, I won't turn this into the election forum. You can have your views, and Nicole can have hers. But, we need to let all people have theirs as well, and have them heard with respect as anyone else's, without being reduced to "squealing"
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Nov 8, 2024 7:57:52 GMT
Statements have been made and challenged which is fine but let’s dial it back now please.
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Post by ceebee on Nov 8, 2024 8:30:39 GMT
At least the box office stats are transparent on Broadway, so it will be interesting to see if all of this has any impact on sales. My hunch is that it won't and that it is a storm in a teacup - time will tell.
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Post by cornish on Nov 8, 2024 10:16:55 GMT
She’s never been the most popular person to deal with - that’s no secret. I guess her voting intentions are her own business and doesn’t affect her art. I just wish she was a nicer person.
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