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Post by stagebyte on Jun 14, 2021 17:48:04 GMT
I guess the question is ... Is there an appetite for a non socially distanced show. Unless they’ve had a major refurb The Gillian Lynne has a tiny bar area and entrance and the toilets are down narrow corridors as are the entrances to the circle.
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Post by poster J on Jun 14, 2021 17:50:15 GMT
I guess the question is ... Is there an appetite for a non socially distanced show. Unless they’ve had a major refurb The Gillian Lynne has a tiny bar area and the toilets are down narrow corridors as are the entrances to the circle. I would only go if there was no eating or drinking allowed and mask wearing was enforced without exception. As that obviously can't be guaranteed, if Joseph does go ahead (I'm not booked for Cinderella) then I will be rebooking for after my second vaccine.
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Post by ceebee on Jun 14, 2021 17:53:48 GMT
Let's just crack on and get the theatres open. Well done ALW for making some noise, though given the Telegraph exclusive I'm inclined to think a deal was done some time ago and the threat was empty.
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Post by stagebyte on Jun 14, 2021 17:56:56 GMT
I guess the question is ... Is there an appetite for a non socially distanced show. Unless they’ve had a major refurb The Gillian Lynne has a tiny bar area and the toilets are down narrow corridors as are the entrances to the circle. I would only go if there was no eating or drinking allowed and mask wearing was enforced without exception. As that obviously can't be guaranteed, if Joseph does go ahead (I'm not booked for Cinderella) then I will be rebooking for after my second vaccine. Agree The food and drink is a huge source of revenue they’re unlikely to forgo this Cue loads of people taking in drinks/snacks to the aud as an excuse not to wear a mask (as you’re allowed ) Can’t see the ushers disturbing the show to stop people do you?
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Post by LaLuPone on Jun 14, 2021 18:00:50 GMT
Every performance prior to the 19th of July now shows as “sold out” for Cinderella and they definitely weren’t close to that before today so I guess they’re still not fully decided on exactly what’s gonna happen during those first 3 weeks.
Edit to add the same applies to Joseph, guess they don’t want anyone else buying tickets while they work out exactly how these “pilot” events will work.
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Post by marob on Jun 14, 2021 18:03:25 GMT
If drinks and snacks are that huge a source of income then how did Imelda Staunton get ATG to ban them from Who’s Afraid of Virginia Woolf? They’re the biggest load of money grabbers going.
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Post by partytentdown on Jun 14, 2021 18:08:15 GMT
If he gets an exception to open this, that's appalling. Cronyism at its best. Throw your toys out of the pram and get what you want.
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Post by The Matthew on Jun 14, 2021 18:11:31 GMT
And I’m worried in case there are still escalators in the New Gillian London Lynn. I shall ensure I wear a sturdy shoe rather than my preferred flip flop. It's the moving escalators you need to watch out for.
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Post by Jon on Jun 14, 2021 18:15:50 GMT
Yes, Boris said certain theatre shows. I suspect the government will extend an invite to offering venues the option to trial full capacity, and Cinderella is probably top of the list as ALW pushed forward with trialing shows last year when no one else was. The caveat probably being a show cannot force the audience to attend nor lose their money, so it’ll be interesting to see what happens. The fact ALW has been huffing and puffing in the last few weeks did makes me think in a cynical way that he was looking for capacity exemption if things had to be delayed. Nick Hytner should ask for one for Bach and Sons considering he's part of the Events Research Group.
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Post by theatrelover123 on Jun 14, 2021 18:20:52 GMT
Every performance prior to the 19th of July now shows as “sold out” for Cinderella and they definitely weren’t close to that before today so I guess they’re still not fully decided on exactly what’s gonna happen during those first 3 weeks. Edit to add the same applies to Joseph, guess they don’t want anyone else buying tickets while they work out exactly how these “pilot” events will work. Email to booked ticket holders: The Government has announced today that there will be a delay in lifting the final stage of lockdown restrictions in England by at least 4 weeks. We're currently working hard behind the scenes to decide what this means for the performances affected and we'll be in touch with you again very shortly. For now, we would like to thank you for your ongoing support and patience, as we work towards getting you up to date information as swiftly as possible and ask that you don't contact us until we've contacted you. We look forward to welcoming you to Cinderella very soon! With our best wishes, The LW Theatres Team
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Post by Someone in a tree on Jun 14, 2021 18:21:32 GMT
Yes, Boris said certain theatre shows. I suspect the government will extend an invite to offering venues the option to trial full capacity, and Cinderella is probably top of the list as ALW pushed forward with trialing shows last year when no one else was. The caveat probably being a show cannot force the audience to attend nor lose their money, so it’ll be interesting to see what happens. The fact ALW has been huffing and puffing in the last few weeks did makes me think in a cynical way that he was looking for capacity exemption if things had to be delayed. Nick Hytner should ask for one for Bach and Sons considering he's part of the Events Research Group. But Hytner is no Tory so what's the advantage to BJ?
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Post by HereForTheatre on Jun 14, 2021 18:23:49 GMT
I'm sure that there will be other shows part of the trial.
Cinderella has always been a high profile case as a major brand new musical trying to open during this time and so can see why it would be one of the first in line to be part of a trial scheme in order for it to finally open.
Though I won't be attending before 19th July personally whatever.
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Post by Jon on Jun 14, 2021 18:29:23 GMT
But Hytner is no Tory so what's the advantage to BJ? Good photo opportunity? In all seriousness, it would make sense for the Bridge to be involved as they have flexible capacity so they could change the capacity of the theatre for different performances of Bach and Sons and see if it makes any difference.
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Post by properjob on Jun 14, 2021 18:33:53 GMT
I think it is possible ALW may have played an absolute blinder on this. Obviously it mostly helps his show but by making a lot of noise he has kept the whole issue in the public eye and therefore in the political mind. If he hadn't been making this noise general/poltical journalists wouldn't be asking about this in press conferences.
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Post by poster J on Jun 14, 2021 19:11:35 GMT
Every performance prior to the 19th of July now shows as “sold out” for Cinderella and they definitely weren’t close to that before today so I guess they’re still not fully decided on exactly what’s gonna happen during those first 3 weeks. Edit to add the same applies to Joseph, guess they don’t want anyone else buying tickets while they work out exactly how these “pilot” events will work. Email to booked ticket holders: The Government has announced today that there will be a delay in lifting the final stage of lockdown restrictions in England by at least 4 weeks. We're currently working hard behind the scenes to decide what this means for the performances affected and we'll be in touch with you again very shortly. For now, we would like to thank you for your ongoing support and patience, as we work towards getting you up to date information as swiftly as possible and ask that you don't contact us until we've contacted you. We look forward to welcoming you to Cinderella very soon! With our best wishes, The LW Theatres Team Same email for Joseph.
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Post by theatrelover123 on Jun 14, 2021 19:37:55 GMT
Email to booked ticket holders: The Government has announced today that there will be a delay in lifting the final stage of lockdown restrictions in England by at least 4 weeks. We're currently working hard behind the scenes to decide what this means for the performances affected and we'll be in touch with you again very shortly. For now, we would like to thank you for your ongoing support and patience, as we work towards getting you up to date information as swiftly as possible and ask that you don't contact us until we've contacted you. We look forward to welcoming you to Cinderella very soon! With our best wishes, The LW Theatres Team Same email for Joseph.
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Post by theatrelover123 on Jun 14, 2021 19:38:40 GMT
Good to hear. My name’s not Joseph though ahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
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Post by mrbarnaby on Jun 14, 2021 19:47:33 GMT
As much as he annoys me, at least he’s making headlines with the plight of commercial theatre. I have everything crossed that Cinderella is used as a trial and opens the door for everything else to open safely as planned after July 19.
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Post by steve10086 on Jun 14, 2021 20:01:11 GMT
As much as he annoys me, at least he’s making headlines with the plight of commercial theatre. I have everything crossed that Cinderella is used as a trial and opens the door for everything else to open safely as planned after July 19. But having pleaded for “theatre” to re-open without distancing, isn’t accepting a role as a “trial event” a betrayal of all other theatres and producers?
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Post by Jon on Jun 14, 2021 20:13:10 GMT
But having pleaded for “theatre” to re-open without distancing, isn’t accepting a role as a “trial event” a betrayal of all other theatres and producers? If the pilot is a success then it'll mean a lot more venues can open at capacity or close to it. I suspect that the vaccine/negative test requirement will be expanded to other sporting venues as well as theatre.
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Post by stagebyte on Jun 14, 2021 20:18:20 GMT
But having pleaded for “theatre” to re-open without distancing, isn’t accepting a role as a “trial event” a betrayal of all other theatres and producers? If the pilot is a success then it'll mean a lot more venues can open at capacity or close to it. I suspect that the vaccine/negative test requirement will be expanded to other sporting venues as well as theatre. So these trial events currently... Are attendees having to prove they’ve had the jab or is a PCR test sufficient? What’s the criteria?
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Post by Jon on Jun 14, 2021 20:21:43 GMT
So these trial events currently... Are attendees having to prove they’ve had the jab or is a PCR test sufficient? What’s the criteria? For the England Euro 2020 matches at Wembley, the requirement is proof of full vaccination status or a negative Lateral Flow Test taken at least 72 hours before.
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Post by talkingheads on Jun 14, 2021 21:22:48 GMT
Vile that Webber gets preferential treatment while everybody else has to open with distancing or not at all.
A real slap in the face to all those who actually work in theatre for a living, as Webber laughs from his multi million pound empire.
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Post by FairyGodmother on Jun 14, 2021 21:33:02 GMT
I wondered whether it would be done like the trial festival in Liverpool. I think they had to test the day before, on the day, and five days later.
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Post by danb on Jun 14, 2021 21:38:10 GMT
As much as he annoys me, at least he’s making headlines with the plight of commercial theatre. I have everything crossed that Cinderella is used as a trial and opens the door for everything else to open safely as planned after July 19. But having pleaded for “theatre” to re-open without distancing, isn’t accepting a role as a “trial event” a betrayal of all other theatres and producers? A betrayal? Who are you? The Daily Mail? Can’t we discuss anything without sensationalising it and turning it into a lowest common denominator argument on Jeremy Kyle?
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Post by FairyGodmother on Jun 14, 2021 21:40:37 GMT
To be honest, if I owned a theatre, I'd rather have a few more weeks of socially-distanced seating than risk being blamed for a superspread event! Let somebody else take the risk, and learn from their mistakes.
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Post by FairyGodmother on Jun 14, 2021 21:42:02 GMT
(Not that I think there will be a big transmission of the virus at Cinderella, but you could take notes on how they're managing queues and loos for example.)
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Post by Jon on Jun 14, 2021 21:55:27 GMT
I wondered whether it would be done like the trial festival in Liverpool. I think they had to test the day before, on the day, and five days later. The Liverpool trial was done before the vaccine status was available on the NHS app so I would say it'll be done differently.
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Post by steve10086 on Jun 14, 2021 22:01:17 GMT
But having pleaded for “theatre” to re-open without distancing, isn’t accepting a role as a “trial event” a betrayal of all other theatres and producers? A betrayal? Who are you? The Daily Mail? Can’t we discuss anything without sensationalising it and turning it into a lowest common denominator argument on Jeremy Kyle? Having set himself up as pleading for UK theatre, it now looks like he’ll be a “test event” and everyone else can fend for themselves. That’s not a good look. Nor is your obnoxious attitude, to be honest.
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Post by richey on Jun 14, 2021 22:06:17 GMT
Well according to the BBC, the news of the trial came as a surprise to ALW who said he couldn't comment further until he'd heard more about the scheme BBC News - Covid: Delay to full reopening a hammer blow, says live event sector www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-57469547
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