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Post by AddisonMizner on Aug 31, 2018 18:43:16 GMT
They didn’t have programmes when I went either, which was mid-August. All they had was a paper cast sheet. I did find it strange that no programmes seemed to be available, and was somewhat disappointed.
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Post by rockinrobin on Aug 31, 2018 21:39:37 GMT
I've been fangirling (sorry, I know, horrible word) Zubin Varla since my father once brought me the 1996 "Jesus Christ Superstar" recording and I got crazy about this man's huge voice. I had to see this show.
It is beautiful, touching, engaging, funny. Possibly not everyone's cup of tea but I loved it - and I'm not a fan of musicals. A wonderful story about how what can happen when you come to terms with yourself - and what can happen if you don't. It is a painful show, yes - but in a good way.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2018 21:51:33 GMT
“I know you”
Sometimes it’s the simplest most powerful things that get you.
I saw this tonight (finally, after a double booking cock up) and after managing 4 years knowing next to nothing. It was worth it.
This was so powerful and complex for me,
It’ll take a while to unpick. But I can count the number of musicals that have had that profound an effect “in the room” for me: 2 others. It’s not just about crying (though I did a lot of that) but that moment where you connect so powerfully with what’s in front of you.
Likewise I understand it’s not everyone’s cup of tea. And that’s ok. I’d even say “it’s not for you” and that’s ok too- there’s probably lots there for you anyway. but for the people it is for, it’s so powerful. And this production was to my eyes flawless.
And Jenna Russell. My Queen. You remind me why I love this musical theatre malarkey so much.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2018 11:19:09 GMT
I can't stand when professional theatres run out of programmes. So ridiculous.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2018 13:21:07 GMT
I can't stand when professional theatres run out of programmes. So ridiculous. So instead They should print too many and lose money. That would ve ridiculous. it was only for a limited run. I'm impressed they lasted till the end of the run. |
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Post by Rory on Sept 1, 2018 13:39:17 GMT
I can't stand when professional theatres run out of programmes. So ridiculous. So instead They should print too many and lose money. That would ve ridiculous. it was only for a limited run. I'm impressed they lasted till the end of the run. Not having programmes available from mid August until 1st September is poor. |
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Post by jamb0r on Sept 1, 2018 20:33:39 GMT
Just out of the final performance, and my third viewing (currently mopping my cheeks on the train home). Extra emotional tonight, the cast were in bits during the bows. It would be such a shame if this didn’t get more life, it truly deserves it.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2018 21:13:25 GMT
“I know you” Sometimes it’s the simplest most powerful things that get you. I saw this tonight (finally, after a double booking cock up) and after managing 4 years knowing next to nothing. It was worth it. This was so powerful and complex for me, It’ll take a while to unpick. But I can count the number of musicals that have had that profound an effect “in the room” for me: 2 others. It’s not just about crying (though I did a lot of that) but that moment where you connect so powerfully with what’s in front of you. Likewise I understand it’s not everyone’s cup of tea. And that’s ok. I’d even say “it’s not for you” and that’s ok too- there’s probably lots there for you anyway. but for the people it is for, it’s so powerful. And this production was to my eyes flawless. And Jenna Russell. My Queen. You remind me why I love this musical theatre malarkey so much. Love that you loved this. I think a lot of people felt really “seen” by watching it. I really hope it transfers. |
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Post by confessor on Sept 2, 2018 10:21:26 GMT
So instead They should print too many and lose money. That would ve ridiculous. it was only for a limited run. I'm impressed they lasted till the end of the run. Not having programmes available from mid August until 1st September is poor. Interesting - they had them for sale when I saw the matinee on 29th August, maybe they had some more printed up and they've since all sold out too. I went into this show having avoided as much information as possible and I loved it, definitely one that has stayed with me over the past few days. |
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Post by latefortheoverture on Sept 2, 2018 11:59:52 GMT
Well, I'm still trying to wind up my thoughts about this show after seeing it. I absolutely loved it.
The whole white wall thing and then the reveal after truly took my breath away. I think it's one of the first times in the theatre I have actually had my breath taken away by a piece of the set. The scene where Alison gets in the car with her father was another powerful one for me; I don't know what it was, but it was just heartbreaking to watch.
The music was perfect and I will definitely be giving the cast recording a listen when I get a minute.
Jenna Russel was perfect but the stand out for me was the Young Alison I was lucky enough to see; all I know is that it was their last performance and one of the boys had an afro. She was unreal for her age, the acting in Ring Of Keys was sublime and I'm sure she'll be in the west end when she's a bit older.
It'll be such a waste if this show doesn't transfer, it's so worthy of one. I'm lucky I was able to see it just in case it doesn't transfer! It's easily one of the best shows I've seen this year!
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Post by steven22 on Sept 2, 2018 16:27:11 GMT
Well, I'm still trying to wind up my thoughts about this show after seeing it. I absolutely loved it. The whole white wall thing and then the reveal after truly took my breath away. I think it's one of the first times in the theatre I have actually had my breath taken away by a piece of the set. The scene where Alison gets in the car with her father was another powerful one for me; I don't know what it was, but it was just heartbreaking to watch. The music was perfect and I will definitely be giving the cast recording a listen when I get a minute. Jenna Russel was perfect but the stand out for me was the Young Alison I was lucky enough to see; all I know is that it was their last performance and one of the boys had an afro. She was unreal for her age, the acting in Ring Of Keys was sublime and I'm sure she'll be in the west end when she's a bit older. It'll be such a waste if this show doesn't transfer, it's so worthy of one. I'm lucky I was able to see it just in case it doesn't transfer! It's easily one of the best shows I've seen this year! Pretty sure it’s transferring. When I asked about the programmes, the guy said just wait until it transfers. I hope there’s an official announcement soon! |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2018 16:49:51 GMT
I can't stand when professional theatres run out of programmes. So ridiculous. So instead They should print too many and lose money. That would ve ridiculous. it was only for a limited run. I'm impressed they lasted till the end of the run. No, just print enough for the entire limited run. In the grand scheme of things, programmes cost them nothing. |
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Post by stevemar on Sept 2, 2018 18:09:20 GMT
Loved this. I don’t think it is perfect - some of the vocal performances could be better, but this really packs an emotional punch without being mawkish or sentimental. Some great songs and well acted - loved Ring of Keys, Changing my Major. But Days and Days and Telephone Wine took my breath away. I saw this twice and hope there is a transfer and a Young Vic original soundtrack.
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Post by crowblack on Sept 2, 2018 18:20:55 GMT
David Morrissey tweeted a couple of days ago that he thinks/hopes it's transferring - make of that what you will.
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Post by elliott on Sept 2, 2018 18:37:41 GMT
So instead They should print too many and lose money. That would ve ridiculous. it was only for a limited run. I'm impressed they lasted till the end of the run. No, just print enough for the entire limited run. In the grand scheme of things, programmes cost them nothing. It is very difficult to predict how many programmes they will need- they can estimate but it varies hugely by production. The difference of ordering more could be an extra order which could be thousands more than necessary and all be waste if they don't need them. I agree with previous posters- they should estimate as best they can and apologise if they run out rather than create loads and then just dump them- wasteful both in terms of money and environmentally. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2018 18:44:02 GMT
No, just print enough for the entire limited run. In the grand scheme of things, programmes cost them nothing. It is very difficult to predict how many programmes they will need- they can estimate but it varies hugely by production. The difference of ordering more could be an extra order which could be thousands more than necessary and all be waste if they don't need them. I agree with previous posters- they should estimate as best they can and apologise if they run out rather than create loads and then just dump them- wasteful both in terms of money and environmentally. They know how many seats are in the theatre and they know how many tickets have been bought. I think it's kind of easy to predict. And millions of theatres worldwide don't have a problem predicting how many programmes they will need... |
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Post by fiyero on Sept 2, 2018 20:55:50 GMT
I was at Rebel Wilson's last night in Guys and dolls and the last night of Dick Whittington and neither had any programmes. It is very annoying, maybe there should be a requirement that they do a run on order and post it to you?
I do hope I get to see Fun home again soon!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2018 21:35:19 GMT
It's not easy to predict though, otherwise they'd always have the right number of programmes! This isn't the first show in London to run out before the end of the run, and it won't be the last. Plus it must be getting harder to estimate as the years go by, striking the balance between "so-many audience members will want a souvenir" and "so-many audience members will just look the info up online". There will be limitations on printing too; if you look at your remaining shows and go "we expect to sell 400 programmes for these last shows, but the printer will only do a minimum of 1000" then you're not making a good choice if you decide to order in a new batch. If you've ever walked past a theatre at the end of a run that's had to hire a skip for all the leftover programmes, you'd probably be in much better stead to understand why a theatre would rather run out than massively over-order.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2018 21:45:23 GMT
Why haven't more theatres in the West End run out of programmes in that case? It's so unprofessional. People go expecting merchandise - programmes at the very least. If the Young Vic has run out of programmes for all your logical reasons, why hasn't the National Theatre run out? Why hasn't the Old Vic?
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Post by Jon on Sept 2, 2018 21:59:49 GMT
Why haven't more theatres in the West End run out of programmes in that case? It's so unprofessional. People go expecting merchandise - programmes at the very least. If the Young Vic has run out of programmes for all your logical reasons, why hasn't the National Theatre run out? Why hasn't the Old Vic? The NT ran out of programmes when Oslo has its brief run at the Lyttelton and most recently Young Frankenstein also ran out of programmes before its final performance so it does happen. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2018 22:19:45 GMT
The NT ran out for Angels as well.
When I used to usher we’d have both ends of that problem- shows you assume will sell a tonne of the things land you with boxes of surplus that’s a waste of money and environmental impact (which subsided theatres particularly are being asked to consider more and more) and shows you think nobody will want a programme for everyone is rabid for and you run out.
As ever if we could predict what audiences want nobody would ever have a half empty house never mind lack of programmes
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2018 22:21:05 GMT
Anyway back to Fun Home itself. I listened to the Broadway recording for the first time on my way home from London. A lot of emotions. And a personal one from me, worlds colliding with Beth Malone there, my beautiful gay Angel, made it all the more so. Damn that lady did a number on me this summer.
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Post by kathryn on Sept 3, 2018 10:49:08 GMT
The NT ran out for Angels as well. When I used to usher we’d have both ends of that problem- shows you assume will sell a tonne of the things land you with boxes of surplus that’s a waste of money and environmental impact (which subsided theatres particularly are being asked to consider more and more) and shows you think nobody will want a programme for everyone is rabid for and you run out. As ever if we could predict what audiences want nobody would ever have a half empty house never mind lack of programmes There's boxes and boxes of snowglobes stored in the Garrick from the Kenny Branagh season! Minimum order volume was way more than the number of people who wanted to buy one. And on the other hand, the Broadway produciton of Groundhog Day probably should have ordered twice as many cuddly Groundhogs even though the show closed early. Everyone wanted one! |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2018 17:36:17 GMT
The NT ran out for Angels as well. When I used to usher we’d have both ends of that problem- shows you assume will sell a tonne of the things land you with boxes of surplus that’s a waste of money and environmental impact (which subsided theatres particularly are being asked to consider more and more) and shows you think nobody will want a programme for everyone is rabid for and you run out. As ever if we could predict what audiences want nobody would ever have a half empty house never mind lack of programmes There's boxes and boxes of snowglobes stored in the Garrick from the Kenny Branagh season! Minimum order volume was way more than the number of people who wanted to buy one. And on the other hand, the Broadway produciton of Groundhog Day probably should have ordered twice as many cuddly Groundhogs even though the show closed early. Everyone wanted one! Well yes who doesn’t want a stuffed hog |
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Post by bengal73 on Sept 3, 2018 18:12:41 GMT
It's a challenge getting merchandising right. We print and sell out 1000 programmes for an annual event each year. We could probably shift 400 or 500 more. The printer we use only does batches of 1000 so we either have to over order or leave people wanting.
I can see the challenge theatres face particularly with limited runs that may see repeat visits as using the simple equation of number of seats and an average percentage of tickets holders who buy becomes skewed
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