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Post by david on Dec 3, 2018 19:34:30 GMT
It’s just not going to be the same without Russell Crowe’s dulcet tones is it?
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Post by jojo on Dec 3, 2018 21:32:56 GMT
If there aren't big flags being waved with gusto, I'll be writing a stern letter to Points of View. I think it's not so much looking "clean" than looking "slathered in make up" with that perfect unblemished skin. People can be perfectly clean but they still have freckles, spots, uneven facial colour, etc. Even those cheek bones look more painted on than real. It's what's turned me off quite a few supposedly historical shows when the women look just too much "straight out of make up" with perfect skin, shades of lipstick and of course perfectly straight and bright-white actors' teeth. I find it's a bit much when the women, or even men, and especially those who are supposed to be poor and starving, look like they are wearing lip gloss and have the kind of dewy complexion that make-up artists for glossy magazines would be proud of, but I find myself OK with actors keeping normal 20th/21st century teeth. Expecting them to pull out a few seems a bit much, so long as they don't look like they are veneers. |
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Post by crowblack on Dec 4, 2018 15:19:40 GMT
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Post by distantcousin on Dec 4, 2018 15:27:56 GMT
I can't bear to tune into it.
ALso, I'm predicting there will be minor uproar about the colourblind casting of Javert.
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Post by londonmzfitz on Dec 4, 2018 16:01:07 GMT
It’s just not going to be the same without Russell Crowe’s dulcet tones is it? Ooo, now ... At Claude-Michel Schonberg's chat on Sunday night at The Bridge he was asked what he thought of the film .. he did the Gallic shoulder-shrug. Asked specifically what he thought of Russell Crowe he said nothing ... and then actually said "Nothing, that eez what I thought of Russell Crowe". Meow! |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2018 16:57:18 GMT
It’s just not going to be the same without Russell Crowe’s dulcet tones is it? Ooo, now ... At Claude-Michel Schonberg's chat on Sunday night at The Bridge he was asked what he thought of the film .. he did the Gallic shoulder-shrug. Asked specifically what he thought of Russell Crowe he said nothing ... and then actually said "Nothing, that eez what I thought of Russell Crowe". Meow! I bet he was happy when the cheques started rolling in though with it's box office of $440 million. |
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Post by learfan on Dec 5, 2018 6:59:42 GMT
I can't bear to tune into it. ALso, I'm predicting there will be minor uproar about the colourblind casting of Javert. More likely complaints that the songs have been cut! |
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Post by crowblack on Dec 5, 2018 10:14:22 GMT
More likely complaints that the songs have been cut! Nah, it's Enjolras' hair and 'tache. Seems to be the musical fandom equivalent of making Doctor Who a woman. |
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Post by kathryn on Dec 5, 2018 16:46:07 GMT
Ooo, now ... At Claude-Michel Schonberg's chat on Sunday night at The Bridge he was asked what he thought of the film .. he did the Gallic shoulder-shrug. Asked specifically what he thought of Russell Crowe he said nothing ... and then actually said "Nothing, that eez what I thought of Russell Crowe". Meow! I bet he was happy when the cheques started rolling in though with it's box office of $440 million. Yes, surely he made a fair bit of moolah out of it even if he didn't appreciate the finished product himself. |
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Post by kimbahorel on Dec 23, 2018 11:02:26 GMT
Alienate a percentage of the audience who were going to watch it but have now have better things to watch Sunday 9-10pm ✔
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Post by couldileaveyou on Dec 23, 2018 11:06:04 GMT
Let's be real tho, I love the musical but the lyrics are not a work of genius
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Post by kimbahorel on Dec 23, 2018 11:09:30 GMT
I see nothing wrong with the lyrics or songs.
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Post by indis on Dec 23, 2018 16:10:07 GMT
I see nothing wrong with the lyrics or songs. same
and might i had that director is a st... idi...
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Post by daisy24601 on Dec 23, 2018 23:45:25 GMT
The arrogance. I do want to see this but that sours it somewhat.
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Post by oxfordsimon on Dec 23, 2018 23:47:19 GMT
I do worry that I will get the same reaction as when I watch Pygmalion. You get such a clear sense of where the songs must come that their absence tends to overwhelm your enjoyment of anything else.
I will still give it a go - but it will have to be good to warrant that much airtime.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 24, 2018 9:11:13 GMT
haha as if Andrew Davies is a master of the written word. his stuff can be very good in terms of story telling, but nothing hugely original or creative in text.
I'm looking forward to this myself although it looks a lot like the movie, almost the same sets in some scenes
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Post by oxfordsimon on Dec 24, 2018 10:08:31 GMT
On the whole Davies has written adaptations - which somewhat limits his scope to be that original or creative as he has to preserve the original in a form that appeals to the majority of TV viewers.
I have no idea what prompted his comments - they do seem ill-judged. Perhaps he was being tongue-in-cheek and that didn't translate well into the written word - hard to tell. But given that most people only know Les Mis from the musical (and a fair number of people still think it is about the French Revolution), he would have been advised to keep schtum!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 24, 2018 10:13:49 GMT
yes but his adaptions aren't anything special in terms of language used. I'm not knocking them as I've enjoyed them, but to criticise another writer when not being anything different yourself isn't on
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Post by crowblack on Dec 24, 2018 10:50:04 GMT
I think Davies has always come across as rather pompous (my Mum calls him "the man who thinks he invented sex"), which does grate when he's a screenwriter of adaptations, not a novelist in his own right, though seems to be feted as though he were producing something original. The BBC have been doing good work publicising this adaptation (I've been surprised in the past how underpublicised some great drama series have been) and I daresay their PR dept won't be happy about Davies' needlessly antagonistic comments. Then again, sections of the Les Mis fandom can be as unreasonably possessive and nasty as the worst "oh no, they've cast a woman!" Star Wars and "oh no, they've cast a woman" Doctor Who fans so I don't have much sympathy for the "humph, I'm boycotting this now" brigade either.
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Post by duncan on Dec 24, 2018 12:29:50 GMT
He peaked with Season 1 of A Very Peculiar Practice, Ron Rust is a work of genius - its been all downhill since then.
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Post by crowblack on Dec 24, 2018 13:01:58 GMT
I liked the adaptations of P&P and Bleak House, but these are great books, and I don't see why he's singled out for such adulation when there are many other screenwriters doing sterling work adapting pre-existing novels. And I know newspapers like clickbait and may well be soliciting a bitchy line to make headlines, but it must be exasperating for the cast and crew when this happens: I've seen a couple of the young actors take to Twitter in the last few hours to defend the musical. |
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Post by indis on Dec 24, 2018 14:38:10 GMT
Enjolras with a beard? wow, another nogo for me, next to that awful director, the not-blonde Fantine
and another comment i read somewhere about Marius wanting Eponine to use her sexiness for his uses (or something along the line)
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Post by daisy24601 on Dec 24, 2018 18:05:39 GMT
Enjolras with a beard? wow, another nogo for me, next to that awful director, the not-blonde Fantine and another comment i read somewhere about Marius wanting Eponine to use her sexiness for his uses (or something along the line) Fantine's partner/Cosette's father is far too good looking too. In the book he's bald and ugly which I like as it's different to her just falling for some hot dude and having his baby. |
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Post by Dawnstar on Dec 24, 2018 19:34:15 GMT
I do worry that I will get the same reaction as when I watch Pygmalion. You get such a clear sense of where the songs must come that their absence tends to overwhelm your enjoyment of anything else. I had the same problem when I saw Taming of the Shrew.
What I find ironic about the timing of Davis's comments is that when I was in Waterstones only 4 few days ago I happened to notice an edition of Les Miserables which had on the front cover the image of Cosette from the musical's poster, so if it's good enough for the publishers...
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Post by crowblack on Dec 24, 2018 20:17:33 GMT
Enjolras with a beard? wow, another nogo for me Joseph Quinn is one of the best actors of his generation. Are you really not going to watch this because he's got period-appropriate facial hair and the actress playing Fantine is brunette? (Btw, the musical dresses Enjolras, a civilian on the Paris streets, in a gold-frogged military hussar waistcoat like he's in Adam and the Ants. That's not in the book either.) |
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