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Post by mrbarnaby on May 31, 2017 21:02:56 GMT
Errr, excuse me. I have been the first on many occasions to break news on shows here- have you? No, didn't think so. Re sources- a large number of my closest friends work on these west end shows and so do I. I have a lot more information than you and of course I'm not going to name sources. I'm more than happy to reveal some things here as it's always exciting to hear what's coming up. Some things I won't/can't talk about Your lack of knowledge is clear when you say the only theatre Comet could go to us the New London. You obviously don't know how the business of transferring shows works. Don't believe me but I'll let you apologise when Comet gets announced any day now. Likewise Tina at the Aldwych. Likewise Strictly Ballroom at the Phoenix. You're welcome. I woudln't take his comments too seriously. No source, its just rumours. Plus the only theatre it could really go into with its design is somewhere like the New London as it change design of the auditorium for different productions all the time.
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Post by mrbarnaby on May 31, 2017 21:04:43 GMT
Do you work in theatre? Do you have close friends involved the west end? Shall I stop revealing some of the information I have? Happy to do that if you're just going to act like I'm making stuff up. Like I'm going to name people.. (rolls eyes) Errr, excuse me. I have been the first on many occasions to break news on shows here- have you? No, didn't think so. Re sources- a large number of my closest friends work on these west end shows and so do I. I have a lot more information than you. Don't believe me but I'll let you apologise when Comet gets announced any day now. Likewise Tina at the Aldwych. Likewise Strictly Ballroom at the Phoenix. You're welcome. I didn't say you were wrong and I didn't say you haven't broken news on here. You don't have to be defensive and snarky when I have said nothing like that. All I said is there is no source.
And you don't know if/how much information I have on any upcoming shows so its not really right to say that.
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2017 21:12:16 GMT
Do you work in theatre? Do you have close friends involved the west end? Shall I stop revealing some of the information I have? Happy to do that if you're just going to act like I'm making stuff up. Like I'm going to name people.. (rolls eyes) I didn't say you were wrong and I didn't say you haven't broken news on here. You don't have to be defensive and snarky when I have said nothing like that. All I said is there is no source.
And you don't know if/how much information I have on any upcoming shows so its not really right to say that.
Didn't say you were making stuff up.
And furthermore, I do have friends that work in the West End. But I respect their jobs and choose to not divulge information that they have passed on to me.
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Post by mrbarnaby on May 31, 2017 21:13:38 GMT
Ok I'm not going to reveal anything else ever again!
And it's not about respecting (or not) their jobs. I'd never say something on here that I was specifically told was to be kept secret.
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Post by Sari on May 31, 2017 21:20:11 GMT
Woooooooooooooooooooooooah chill, please. Can we just be happy that TGC is coming to London? Jeeeeez.
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2017 21:20:16 GMT
Ok I'm not going to reveal anything else ever again! And it's not about respecting (or not) their jobs. I'd never say something on here that I was specifically told was to be kept secret. I'm not trying to be a dick to you or what you know love, I'm really not. I mearly just meant in my initial comment before all this "wait until a source, until then take as gossip" because that is the usual train of thought on this board. It has nothing to do with you personally, it is said on this board all the time.
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Post by stuartmcd on May 31, 2017 21:22:07 GMT
I have doubts about Dear Evan Hansen coming to London but wouldn't be at all surprised if it did. However I would be shocked if Great Comet came to London and had a theatre already sorted. I just cannot see it appealing to a West End Audience at all!
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Post by mrbarnaby on May 31, 2017 21:24:30 GMT
Well it is and I'm with you- unless Groban does it here, I can't see who on Earth it would appeal to. Even with him , it will struggle. I have doubts about Dear Evan Hansen coming to London but wouldn't be at all surprised if it did. However I would be shocked if Great Comet came to London and had a theatre already sorted. I just cannot see it appealing to a West End Audience at all!
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2017 21:29:08 GMT
It will appeal to people that like good/innovative theatre.
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Post by mrbarnaby on May 31, 2017 21:36:01 GMT
Oh yes of course It will appeal to people that like good/innovative theatre.
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Post by stuartmcd on May 31, 2017 21:38:58 GMT
It will appeal to people that like good/innovative theatre. Yes absolutely! I hope it comes over as I would love the chance to see it. But a musical adaptation of War and Peace might be a hard sell to your average West End audience member
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Post by mrbarnaby on May 31, 2017 21:43:14 GMT
I do know many people who love "good /innovative" theatre who didn't like it.. I include myself in that. Just to be fair.
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2017 21:45:54 GMT
If it flops, that would be one expensive flop!
This thread really should be moved to the rumoured thread, it is a lot more about currently rumoured transfers with no official confirmation than just Dear Evan Hansen!
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2017 21:48:14 GMT
I do know many people who love "good /innovative" theatre who didn't like it.. I include myself in that. Just to be fair. Yet it's still selling fine in NYC.
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Post by mrbarnaby on May 31, 2017 21:50:34 GMT
Well duh. I'm not so insane that I think just because I don't like something, it's not or shouldn't be successful. Thriller Live is also selling well. I do know many people who love "good /innovative" theatre who didn't like it.. I include myself in that. Just to be fair. Yet it's still selling fine in NYC.
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2017 21:50:35 GMT
It will appeal to people that like good/innovative theatre. Yes absolutely! I hope it comes over as I would love the chance to see it. But a musical adaptation of War and Peace might be a hard sell to your average West End audience member I think we can't blame West End audiences for not seeing these types of shows until we give them a chance to see it. As I argued in another thread, the last time a risky American show was given a West End house was Spring Awakening 8 years ago. It's about time we try again.
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2017 21:51:30 GMT
Well duh. I'm not so insane that I think just because I don't like something, it's not or shouldn't be successful. Thriller Live is also selling well. Yet it's still selling fine in NYC. In that case I don't understand your point as I was responding to you stating that you thought it wouldn't sell as you don't know who it would appeal to.
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Post by mrbarnaby on May 31, 2017 21:55:01 GMT
My point is-
It sells well in NYC because Groban is a big star there. When he's off, the queue for refunds is insane. It's sales will plummet when he leaves He most likely won't be doing it in London .
In NYC it feels bold and new, but we have more original and challenging theatre here, so it won't be as big a deal I suspect.
Time will tell.
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2017 21:56:32 GMT
Oh I think it would need a star here too, but I suspect they have one if they've already got a house.
And I disagree about the theatre here being more original and exciting, certainly not the case for musicals.
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2017 22:07:35 GMT
Don't believe me but I'll let you apologise when Comet gets announced any day now. Likewise Tina at the Aldwych. Likewise Strictly Ballroom at the Phoenix. You're welcome. mrbarnaby please let the Strictly Ballroom rumour be true, that would make me very happy!
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Post by Raven on Jun 1, 2017 17:11:41 GMT
I would love to have this come over. I can't stop listening to the cast recording! So much that. I really wasn't expecting to like it but some of the songs are so well crafted I didn't know what to expect but was pleasantly surprised. Some of the songs, as you say, are so well done! I love "For Forever", "Waving Through A Window", "Requiem" and obviously "You Will Be Found". They are constantly on repeat for me right now.
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Post by mrbarnaby on Jun 1, 2017 20:38:21 GMT
It very much is true.. mrbarnaby please let the Strictly Ballroom rumour be true, that would make me very happy!
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Post by Rory on Jun 1, 2017 22:44:16 GMT
Ok I'm not going to reveal anything else ever again! Oh no, please don't do that mrbarnaby! I always enjoy reading your posts!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2017 23:10:03 GMT
Ok I'm not going to reveal anything else ever again! And it's not about respecting (or not) their jobs. I'd never say something on here that I was specifically told was to be kept secret. Can you not understand that people aren't going to take your word as gospel without an official source to back it up? I entirely understand why you can't reveal sources and I'm not asking you to, but I don't know you from Adam so I equally won't completely believe you (or anyone else who posts any unconfirmed information on this board for that matter) until it's fully confirmed - until then I consider that sort of information interesting insight but don't pin my hopes on it definitely being true. Not sure why you're so offended at that - it's only logical not to take something as 100% confirmed until it is officially announced!
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Post by mrbarnaby on Jun 2, 2017 6:32:06 GMT
I hear what you say but I don't think I've ever bandied 'gossip'/ news around on here and then it not happen... anyway you'll all see when these shows are announced. Ok I'm not going to reveal anything else ever again! And it's not about respecting (or not) their jobs. I'd never say something on here that I was specifically told was to be kept secret. Can you not understand that people aren't going to take your word as gospel without an official source to back it up? I entirely understand why you can't reveal sources and I'm not asking you to, but I don't know you from Adam so I equally won't completely believe you (or anyone else who posts any unconfirmed information on this board for that matter) until it's fully confirmed - until then I consider that sort of information interesting insight but don't pin my hopes on it definitely being true. Not sure why you're so offended at that - it's only logical not to take something as 100% confirmed until it is officially announced!
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