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Post by distantcousin on Mar 5, 2018 17:37:16 GMT
The one problem Phoenix has is that it's somewhat off the beaten track, so doesn't get the same level of walk up tourist trade as the venues on the Strand/Shaftesbury Ave. If Ben Platt (or someone of that level of fame) were to star in the show, then it wouldn't be an issue as that will drive the sales, otherwise I think it would be better suited to one of DMT's larger playhouses, or the Savoy. Ben Platt = fame? ! Not in the wider world.
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Post by distantcousin on Mar 5, 2018 17:38:35 GMT
I dunno guys..that off the cuff remark on WhatsOnStage holds no weight as far as I'm concerned. I'd find it a very tough sell to make this show crossover and do well. There were so many other big shows that were either rumored or had a topic that could have been a lot more viable for London: Hedwig, Gentleman's Guide to Love and Murder, for example. Even when In the Heights, came it was an independent production in a fringe venue and not a major production based on the original (at that point it was even available for amateurs everywhere). Fun Home took forever and only coming in as a limited run in a niche venue. So just because a show is a smash success in the US, it doesn't make it viable for London. Sorry, I just can't imagine this in London at all. Totally agree. People seem to think there is this close synergy with West End and Broadway audiences - there really isn't!!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2018 12:57:55 GMT
It'll be very hard to squeeze this in..it's not a "fun night out" a la Jamie or Dreamgirls Not everyone wants a fun night out at the theatre. I mean, people are still going to see 'Wicked'.
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Post by sf on Mar 6, 2018 15:34:08 GMT
Dear Evan Hansen is a show that deals with issues that are very current, Well, yes. Now you come to mention it, I suppose a show about a rampaging narcissist who tells whopping great lies and faces no consequences for doing so is rather current!
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Post by musicalmarge on Mar 7, 2018 2:01:23 GMT
I find the music incredibly beige, like most of Paul and Pasek's work. All very lite-pop and nothing particularly theatrical. ERrrrrrrrr DOGFIGHT?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2018 14:29:16 GMT
I love the score, its probably my favourite to come out of the last at least half decade so it can come over whenever as far as I'm concerned.
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Post by theatremadness on Mar 8, 2018 23:01:58 GMT
So the wheels are certainly in motion!
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Post by welsh_tenor on Mar 8, 2018 23:19:17 GMT
ALL THE YES’S!
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Post by Phantom of London on Mar 8, 2018 23:33:46 GMT
It’s going to happen, as will Come From Away and Waitress will, even though Comet said it will, it probably won’t.
DEH will do well, if the producers are sensible, by which I mean putting this in a small house, like the Savoy or Gielgud. American producers seem much shrewder these days and not try and get the same box office as Broadway where the producers use to overreach themselves and put their show in too big theatres*.
The 2 composers are well known names over here now, also you cast a young British actor or maybe one that had a successful pop career, then this could sore.
*American In Paris aside.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2018 0:21:39 GMT
Surely I can't be the only one who thinks "exploratory phase" means absolutely nothing whatsoever in relation to the chances of it coming to London. I don't think this changes anything.
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Post by Jon on Mar 9, 2018 2:27:45 GMT
I think DEH have a chance of coming over but they need the right theatre,
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2018 8:13:16 GMT
Bets on for when it does eventually arrive “From the creators of The Greatest Showman” being plastered over all promotional materials.
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Post by welsh_tenor on Mar 9, 2018 9:19:11 GMT
Bets on for when it does eventually arrive “From the creators of The Greatest Showman” being plastered over all promotional materials. And as long as it also says “featuring Tony Award winner Ben Platt” Although I know from this news that is very unlikely... a boy can dream though!
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Post by squidward on Mar 9, 2018 12:12:14 GMT
Bets on for when it does eventually arrive “From the creators of The Greatest Showman” being plastered over all promotional materials. And as long as it also says “featuring Tony Award winner Ben Platt” Although I know from this news that is very unlikely... a boy can dream though! After seeing BP’s replacement Noah Galvin on Brosdwat, I’d say that the show virtually stands or falls on whoever is playing the lead. In absolutely loved the soundtrack but was bitterly disappointed when I saw the show because in my opinion, Noah Galvin got it all wrong. He played it pretty much one note throughout and was overdoing the tic-being, stammering and gurning so much that it completely changed the nature of Evan’s character/issues. I’d love to see Ben Platt, but if he doesn’ come over, I’m sure there are MT actors in the UK who could shine in the role, but the part demands a great actor as well as a great singer. Without that, to me anyway, the show is really nothing special.
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Post by squidward on Mar 9, 2018 12:14:54 GMT
Bets on for when it does eventually arrive “From the creators of The Greatest Showman” being plastered over all promotional materials. And as long as it also says “featuring Tony Award winner Ben Platt” Although I know from this news that is very unlikely... a boy can dream though! After seeing BP’s replacement Noah Galvin on Broadway,I’d say that the show virtually stands or falls on whoever is playing the lead. I absolutely loved the score before I saw the show,but was bitterly disappointed when I got to see the production,because in my opinion, Noah Galvin got it all wrong. He played it pretty much one note throughout and was overdoing the tic-being, stammering and gurning so much that it completely changed the nature of Evan’s character/issues. I’d love to see Ben Platt, but if he doesn’ come over, I’m sure there are MT actors in the UK who could shine in the role, but the part demands a great actor as well as a great singer. Without that, to me anyway, the show is really nothing special.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2018 13:34:38 GMT
I’m simply insatiable for a few more broadway transfers. This and Come From Away would be top of my want list, followed by Waitress, Mean Girls and (never gonna happen) Once on this Island.
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Post by ali973 on Mar 9, 2018 14:12:19 GMT
I think it's interesting that they are going "color blind". Let's say they cast a black Evan, should we pretend it's "blind casting" and it's a black guy playing white boy? Or can we take it at face value and could Evan actually be black, white, Asian, Hispanic, etc?
I enjoyed the show a lot when I saw it in 2016. Ben Platt and the rest of the company were fantastic. I remember once having a conversation with two friends about how the show was "very white". One of them rolled his eyes, the other totally agreed. There's an alternative reading of Evan's character that doesn't bode well with its fans, is that Evan is really a horrible, opportunistic liar and not just a victim of circumstance, and despite the damage he creates, all is magically forgiven by the play's conclusion. I sometimes wonder if this was a black kid, would he be off the hook so easily? Would he even get the benefit of the doubt, especially with this set in America where society is so programmed to see black boys a lot less innocent than white kids?
Going color blind, or throwing the OBC color composition of its characters and starting all over again could actually provide a different dimension to the show.
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Post by 49thand8th on Mar 9, 2018 15:07:29 GMT
I think it's interesting that they are going "color blind". Let's say they cast a black Evan, should we pretend it's "blind casting" and it's a black guy playing white boy? Or can we take it at face value and could Evan actually be black, white, Asian, Hispanic, etc? For what it's worth, we never see his dad.
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Post by ali973 on Mar 9, 2018 15:11:51 GMT
Exactly. He could also be adopted. Or even the mother can be a POC.
Interestingly one of the Broadway understudies for Zoe is a black girl (I would also guess she's the understudy for Alana). Is she just an actress playing a role of a character who is white or is she adopted by this white family? I don't think there's a right or wrong answer - but I think there is a difference between opening it up so that none of the roles are color-specific vs blind casting and then deracialize these actors.
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Post by 49thand8th on Mar 9, 2018 15:15:48 GMT
Almost all the Zoe/Alana standbys have been black and/or mixed-race. You can probably interpret it however!
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Post by talkstageytome on Mar 10, 2018 5:23:16 GMT
Gotta say, this would work for me!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2018 10:22:03 GMT
^ Wow! I would live for this!!
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Post by sempala on Mar 10, 2018 11:33:37 GMT
(never gonna happen) Once on this Island. I wish.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2018 18:54:04 GMT
Gotta say, this would work for me! But Sharon, God love her, as good as she is only really plays Sharon D Clarke now. How about someone like Debbie Kurup instead? She was glorious in Girl From the North Country.
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Post by talkstageytome on Mar 10, 2018 18:57:23 GMT
Good shout, I love Debbie!
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