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Post by vickyg on Jan 13, 2020 16:42:28 GMT
My impression, without reviewing each song, was that it was very much an ensemble piece with the songs divided amongst the key characters. Yes Miriam probably sings more but it definitely doesn't compare to the likes of Tina or Wicked. That said I'm sure vocal fatigue strikes different people at different levels of vocal stress and it did seem to me that she was struggling the most when singing with others. I do think the absolute least you can expect from a (costly) West End production is for the cast to sing in tune so whatever the issue is hopefully they can sort it! Wicked? There are only two challenging songs in it. Defying Gravity and No Good Deed. I just meant in terms of having one cast member singing the vast majority of songs, but it's also well known as a challenging sing. |
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Post by andrew on Jan 13, 2020 17:08:44 GMT
"Only" two challenging songs have managed to permanently damage the voices of quite a few Elphabas, huh? But I guess BurlyBeaR's technique is so good they didn't have a single effect on his vocals during his 12-month run as principal West End Elphaba. Impressive 👏
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Jan 13, 2020 17:36:33 GMT
"Only" two challenging songs have managed to permanently damage the voices of quite a few Elphabas, huh? But I guess BurlyBeaR's technique is so good they didn't have a single effect on his vocals during his 12-month run as principal West End Elphaba. Impressive 👏 finally, I’ve been recognised! *Curtseys* |
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Post by danb on Jan 13, 2020 17:39:41 GMT
"Only" two challenging songs have managed to permanently damage the voices of quite a few Elphabas, huh? But I guess BurlyBeaR's technique is so good they didn't have a single effect on his vocals during his 12-month run as principal West End Elphaba. Impressive 👏 finally, I’ve been recognised! *Curtseys* Are you Ana De Gasteyer Burly? I do remember her having a magnificent handlebar moustache which I like to imagine you having also. |
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Post by intoanewlife on Jan 13, 2020 17:44:43 GMT
Miriam was perfect vocally when I went. The only criticism I would have of her performance was that she was under performing some of her dance moves so her singing didn't suffer. Apart from that she was amazing and a true star x
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Post by sparky5000 on Jan 13, 2020 18:57:30 GMT
I mean idk, this isn’t Tina, where I think it’s absolutely justified that the actress does a 6 show schedule given the ridiculous amount of songs the actress has to sing in that show (and given the amount dancing too). Miriam singing flat in some songs isn’t because she’s overworked, I don’t think that can be used as the excuse! Have you even seen the show? Of course it can be used as a reason, Miriam sings 90% of the score and most of the songs have loads of high belting. Both times I've seen her she only was flat in the high note of Roar (which she shouldn't even attempt to do imo) so if now she's flat in other songs as well, then it's definitely vocal fatigue. Yeah I’ve seen the show twice 👍 |
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Post by littlefluffychick on Jan 13, 2020 21:12:17 GMT
Burlybear you forgot about something baaaaaaaad is happening in oz - that’s a big sing for the goat teacher 😉
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Post by centaured on Jan 19, 2020 12:14:58 GMT
Miriam was perfect vocally when I went. The only criticism I would have of her performance was that she was under performing some of her dance moves so her singing didn't suffer. Apart from that she was amazing and a true star x Interestingly, I saw this three, maybe four times in Manchester and I thought that Miriam was actually less of a character for me, even though the show is about her, I was more drawn to the others. Particularly Cassidy, who I couldn't keep my eyes off when she was on stage. I think Miriam is a much softer performance and not sure if I want the character to be a bit more ballsy and sassy. Personal taste I guess. |
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Post by ruthieh on Jan 19, 2020 12:42:58 GMT
Miriam was perfect vocally when I went. The only criticism I would have of her performance was that she was under performing some of her dance moves so her singing didn't suffer. Apart from that she was amazing and a true star x Interestingly, I saw this three, maybe four times in Manchester and I thought that Miriam was actually less of a character for me, even though the show is about her, I was more drawn to the others. Particularly Cassidy, who I couldn't keep my eyes off when she was on stage. I think Miriam is a much softer performance and not sure if I want the character to be a bit more ballsy and sassy. Personal taste I guess. I agree about Cassidy. She’s totally magnetic! |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2020 12:47:19 GMT
I know it's not comparing like for like - but....
It has amused me reading criticism of MTL's vocal ability (she's brilliant) on the same forum that defends Glenn Close's!
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Jan 19, 2020 14:09:56 GMT
Yes but Miriam couldn’t play Norma and Glenn couldn’t play Juliet. Different parts, different voices needed.
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Post by intoanewlife on Jan 19, 2020 14:48:00 GMT
Miriam was perfect vocally when I went. The only criticism I would have of her performance was that she was under performing some of her dance moves so her singing didn't suffer. Apart from that she was amazing and a true star x Interestingly, I saw this three, maybe four times in Manchester and I thought that Miriam was actually less of a character for me, even though the show is about her, I was more drawn to the others. Particularly Cassidy, who I couldn't keep my eyes off when she was on stage. I think Miriam is a much softer performance and not sure if I want the character to be a bit more ballsy and sassy. Personal taste I guess. While I will say I don't think Miriam probably played a great 'character' that great, I thought as a performer she was magnetic and she had such star quality it didn't bother me. As for Cassidy...while she nailed her character, every time she appeared on that stage she annoyed the absolute **** out of me. She reminded me of a yappy Chihuahua. I found her voice very grating and while it has to be said she was great in the role, the combination of her character and her performance just rubbed me the wrong way. |
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Post by intoanewlife on Jan 19, 2020 14:49:34 GMT
I know it's not comparing like for like - but.... It has amused me reading criticism of MTL's vocal ability (she's brilliant) on the same forum that defends Glenn Close's! I don't expect a 50 year old character to sing like a 16 year old character.... |
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Jan 23, 2020 19:33:27 GMT
Booked for London. SQUEAL!
Legroom seat thanks to “his nibs” 🐒 🍌
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Post by musicalmarge on Jan 24, 2020 0:36:08 GMT
Finally saw “&Juliet” the musical!
I have to say, apart from the super music, arrangements and Cassidy Janson vocally (when I didn’t want to slap sang a super song in act 2), this Brittany Spears meets Shakespeare new musical was a little flat, a tad panto, some miscasting (Romeo was a drip), woke-tastic and the gay/non-binary second storyline and overall blind colour casting - a tad tedious. It wanted desperately to be Six mashed with Rock of Ages but sadly misses the mark. Broadway would have done it better. Tonnes of exploding ticker tape though! 7/10
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2020 0:47:19 GMT
some miscasting (Romeo was a drip) That's the point. |
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Post by musicalmarge on Jan 24, 2020 0:59:19 GMT
Why do gay men always have to be mincing queens in musicals - THAT gets on my nerves!!!! Can’t stand it and if anything it’s offensive.
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Post by intoanewlife on Jan 24, 2020 1:20:55 GMT
Why do gay men always have to be mincing queens in musicals - THAT gets on my nerves!!!! Can’t stand it and if anything it’s offensive. Which mincing queen are you talking about, there were a number of them in this. In fact practically every male character in it was a mincer including Shakespeare. The only remotely masculine one was the son who ended up with the non binary character x |
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Post by intoanewlife on Jan 24, 2020 1:29:16 GMT
Finally saw “&Juliet” the musical! I have to say, apart from the super music, arrangements and Cassidy Janson vocally (when I didn’t want to slap sang a super song in act 2), this Brittany Spears meets Shakespeare new musical was a little flat, a tad panto, some miscasting (Romeo was a drip), woke-tastic and the gay/non-binary second storyline and overall blind colour casting - a tad tedious. It wanted desperately to be Six mashed with Rock of Ages but sadly misses the mark. Broadway would have done it better. Tonnes of exploding ticker tape though! 7/10 While I'd agree with everything else you've said (especially re Cassidy who also annoyed the crap out of me) and your score, from the new musicals I have seen on Broadway the last few years, this production was head and shoulders above most of them, particularly the juke-boxers. If anything it is a little too flashy for it's own good. It's 2nd tier crowd-pleasing musical theatre, but it definitely outshines most others within that category x |
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Post by latefortheoverture on Jan 26, 2020 17:38:54 GMT
What is the dynamic pricing like for this? Looking to try go next week, and don't mind holding out.
Has anyone got a bargain off of the box office? Or is band a £35 under 25 the best bet?
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Post by intoanewlife on Jan 26, 2020 18:12:43 GMT
What is the dynamic pricing like for this? Looking to try go next week, and don't mind holding out. Has anyone got a bargain off of the box office? Or is band a £35 under 25 the best bet? They do £20 day seats at the box office. |
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Post by HereForTheatre on Jan 26, 2020 18:17:36 GMT
What is the dynamic pricing like for this? Looking to try go next week, and don't mind holding out. Has anyone got a bargain off of the box office? Or is band a £35 under 25 the best bet? There's still some £20 and £30 tickets in the OLT New Year Sale available for this coming week. |
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Post by jess173 on Jan 26, 2020 20:25:44 GMT
They do £20 day seats at the box office. That’s great to hear. Do you know where these seats are and how many they have? My friend and I want to go and try for a Saturday matinee end of February. We are arriving early so going to the box office when it opens or even before shouldn’t be a problem. I would love to sit in the stalls for this as I’ve always been in the royal or grand circle. But stalls tickets are very expensive for that day... |
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Post by daniel on Jan 26, 2020 20:31:44 GMT
They do £20 day seats at the box office. That’s great to hear. Do you know where these seats are and how many they have? My friend and I want to go and try for a Saturday matinee end of February. We are arriving early so going to the box office when it opens or even before shouldn’t be a problem. I would love to sit in the stalls for this as I’ve always been in the royal or grand circle. But stalls tickets are very expensive for that day... Front row - think there’s 18. |
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