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Post by carmella1 on Sept 20, 2021 0:43:56 GMT
Noooo. Has KD now played all the male roles in LM or POTO.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2021 1:18:39 GMT
Liisi has now created 2 big roles in London. Deena Jones and Satine. Yet not a single Broadway credit. How does that work? I find the whole exchange thing fascinating. I'd love to know who we have sent over to work on Broadway. Is it a like for like? I learnt today that when American Equity finally agreed to Sarah Brightman going over with Phantom, Andrew had to have an unknown American actress in the lead, which is how Ann Crumb came to be in Aspects of Love. Well, it fascinates me... lol
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Post by inthenose on Sept 20, 2021 1:54:33 GMT
Liisi has now created 2 big roles in London. Deena Jones and Satine. Yet not a single Broadway credit. How does that work? I find the whole exchange thing fascinating. I'd love to know who we have sent over to work on Broadway. Is it a like for like? I learnt today that when American Equity finally agreed to Sarah Brightman going over with Phantom, Andrew had to have an unknown American actress in the lead, which is how Ann Crumb came to be in Aspects of Love. Well, it fascinates me... lol I don't mean to be rude because I enjoy and respect your joins but there have been dozens of examples, including from yours truly. Maybe read recent posts in a thread which interests you. 👍👍👍 |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2021 3:43:36 GMT
Like Bertie Carvel in Matilda who was great by the way
Like Cynthia Erivo in The Color Purple who was excellent
All three leads in Harry Potter and Cursed Child (which you should boycott on Broadway)
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2021 3:47:40 GMT
don't mean to be rude because I enjoy and respect your joins but there have been dozens of examples, including from yours truly. Maybe read recent posts in a thread which interests you. 👍👍👍 I'm not entirely sure what you're referring to. Examples of what? Exchanges? what thread that interests me? i'm confused. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2021 6:49:26 GMT
don't mean to be rude because I enjoy and respect your joins but there have been dozens of examples, including from yours truly. Maybe read recent posts in a thread which interests you. 👍👍👍 I'm not entirely sure what you're referring to. Examples of what? Exchanges? what thread that interests me? i'm confused. The many examples on the last couple of pages of this thread of Brits who have gone to NY (or elsewhere in the US as well of course) on equity exchanges. Gina Beck for the Wicked tour is another not yet mentioned. Broadway credits are not (and should not be) a pre-requisite for an international cast member getting to step on a London stage. That would just be even sillier than the fact we are even debating anyone's right to work in London rather than on Broadway... |
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Post by inthenose on Sept 20, 2021 8:18:20 GMT
I'm not entirely sure what you're referring to. Examples of what? Exchanges? what thread that interests me? i'm confused. The many examples on the last couple of pages of this thread of Brits who have gone to NY (or elsewhere in the US as well of course) on equity exchanges. Gina Beck for the Wicked tour is another not yet mentioned. Broadway credits are not (and should not be) a pre-requisite for an international cast member getting to step on a London stage. That would just be even sillier than the fact we are even debating anyone's right to work in London rather than on Broadway... Entirely 100% this |
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Post by FairyGodmother on Sept 20, 2021 8:45:10 GMT
Not wanting to put words into their mouth, but I thought tbfl meant "who have we sent to Broadway in exchange for Liisi in this particular case?".
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Post by danb on Sept 20, 2021 8:51:58 GMT
To be fair it might not have happened yet…
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Post by mrbarnaby on Sept 20, 2021 9:06:16 GMT
That exchange situation isn’t a thing anymore. It’s not 1 for 1..
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2021 17:23:59 GMT
I'm not entirely sure what you're referring to. Examples of what? Exchanges? what thread that interests me? i'm confused. The many examples on the last couple of pages of this thread of Brits who have gone to NY (or elsewhere in the US as well of course) on equity exchanges. Gina Beck for the Wicked tour is another not yet mentioned. Broadway credits are not (and should not be) a pre-requisite for an international cast member getting to step on a London stage. That would just be even sillier than the fact we are even debating anyone's right to work in London rather than on Broadway... I'm not debatimg anyones right to work anywhere.i said that in my previous post. 99% of the British actors mentioned previously, that have gone to America, are playing the roles they played here. Great. Good for them. What i am saying, is that i would prefer to see a big new show open in London with a cast selected from our own amazing talent. Was liisi so amazing in Dreamgirls that no-one else here could have done it better? Definitely not. Name me a British female who has gone to NYC and originated a lead role in a brand new, big budget show, twice (Samantha Barks has, but she had some name recognition beforehand)I hope that she is sensational in Moulin Rouge, and if she is I'll gladly eat crow pie.. |
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Post by shady23 on Sept 20, 2021 18:18:42 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2021 18:49:45 GMT
And we he had American productions come here with a full American cast too, like Hair, or An American in Paris (i think)That isnt the point
Roles they played before....
Say we finally get a big brand new production of Aida, here in London. The title role goes to someone from America.
Another great role for a black female performer to make a name for herself here in the West End.
It's a shame people cant be more supportive of our own talent.
Anyway back to Moulin Rouge....
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Post by mrbarnaby on Sept 20, 2021 19:17:08 GMT
And we he had American productions come here with a full American cast too, like Hair, or An American in Paris (i think)That isnt the point Roles they played before.... Say we finally get a big brand new production of Aida, here in London. The title role goes to someone from America. Another great role for a black female performer to make a name for herself here in the West End. It's a shame people cant be more supportive of our own talent. Anyway back to Moulin Rouge.... So do you have a problem with Cynthia Erivo going to America and stealing their jobs and making a nice career for herself there? One she wouldn’t get here. ? |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2021 19:26:54 GMT
She went to Broadway in a role she originated here. She was fabulous here and she was there as well. What part did she steal from someone else?
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Post by mrbarnaby on Sept 20, 2021 19:29:45 GMT
She went to Broadway in a role she originated here. She was fabulous here and she was there as well. What part did she steal from someone else? All the roles she played after.. I mean going by your logic that you should only play roles in your own country |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2021 19:47:03 GMT
By my logic?
Please, enlighten ne. What theatre roles has she originated since she went there? Are you referring to film, because this has nothing to do with that. But nice try.
I've said what ive had to say, numerous times. If people dont understand what i meant, oh well.
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Post by mrbarnaby on Sept 20, 2021 19:49:06 GMT
By my logic? Please, enlighten ne. What theatre roles has she originated since she went there? Are you referring to film, because this has nothing to do with that. But nice try. I've said what ive had to say, numerous times. If people dont understand what i meant, oh well. A role is a role. Whether it be on stage. Tv or film |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2021 19:53:32 GMT
It's a shame people cant be more supportive of our own talent. It's a shame people can't be more supportive of talent. Full stop. Doesn't matter where they come from, or rather it shouldn't. This thread has really depressed me. |
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Post by mrbarnaby on Sept 20, 2021 20:26:23 GMT
It's a shame people cant be more supportive of our own talent. It's a shame people can't be more supportive of talent. Full stop. Doesn't matter where they come from, or rather it shouldn't. This thread has really depressed me. Same. Some of my best experiences in a theatre has been the privilege of seeing performers from other countries grace our stage. And the pride of seeing British performers wow Broadway. |
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Sept 20, 2021 21:02:46 GMT
Shall we get back to the show then ‘cos I think we’ve done the casting thing to death.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2021 21:21:03 GMT
It's a shame people can't be more supportive of talent. Full stop. Doesn't matter where they come from, or rather it shouldn't. This thread has really depressed me. Same. Some of my best experiences in a theatre has been the privilege of seeing performers from other countries grace our stage. And the pride of seeing British performers wow Broadway. Talk about missing the point. You all get depressed really easily. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2021 21:26:35 GMT
99% of the British actors mentioned previously, that have gone to America, are playing the roles they played here. Great. Good for them. To be fair, none of the actors I have mentioned had played the roles before - they were all examples of British actors leading brand new Broadway shows. But every example is different, so looking for someone who's situation mirrors Liisi LaFontaine's is arbitrary. Why is Rachel Tucker in The Last Ship not valid, just because she did Wicked on Broadway first? Or there's Laura Michelle Kelly in Finding Neverland. She also reprised her role in Mary Poppins on Broadway first, so does she not count? British talent do get their shot, here and in the US. **EDIT: As Andrew has pointed out below, Rachel Tucker made her Broadway debut in The Last Ship.** |
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Post by andrew on Sept 20, 2021 22:38:00 GMT
99% of the British actors mentioned previously, that have gone to America, are playing the roles they played here. Great. Good for them. To be fair, none of the actors I have mentioned had played the roles before - they were all examples of British actors leading brand new Broadway shows. But every example is different, so looking for someone who's situation mirrors Liisi LaFontaine's is arbitrary. Why is Rachel Tucker in The Last Ship not valid, just because she did Wicked on Broadway first? Or there's Laura Michelle Kelly in Finding Neverland. She also reprised her role in Mary Poppins on Broadway first, so does she not count? British talent do get their shot, here and in the US. Rachel Tucker did The Last Ship 2 years before Wicked on Broadway. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2021 22:48:28 GMT
Same. Some of my best experiences in a theatre has been the privilege of seeing performers from other countries grace our stage. And the pride of seeing British performers wow Broadway. Talk about missing the point. You all get depressed really easily. Not at all, I got your point, I think you're wrong. There seems to be an assumption that if you support foreign talent you aren't supporting domestic. That is both wrong and rather inward-looking, and I'm fairly shocked and sad that so many people on this board seem to take that view. If you draw an arbitrary line between British and non-British talent, then ultimately that is the view you're taking. |
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