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Post by theatremadness on Aug 28, 2016 15:24:52 GMT
Is this now a competition to see who knows the most about dark theatres?? Do we hope that the Noel Coward loses £3 million a week just so someone is proved correct?
It's an epidemic! But obviously we all already know this.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2016 15:30:19 GMT
Is this now a competition to see who knows the most about dark theatres?? Do we hope that the Noel Coward loses £3 million a week just so someone is proved correct? It's an epidemic! But obviously we all already know this. I agree, my comments were trying to calm the fact it was being made out to be the the biggest disaster since the Titanic sinking in 1912. ... that being said, Titanic should transfer to the Noel Coward.
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Post by theatremadness on Aug 28, 2016 15:35:28 GMT
Is this now a competition to see who knows the most about dark theatres?? Do we hope that the Noel Coward loses £3 million a week just so someone is proved correct? It's an epidemic! But obviously we all already know this. I agree, my comments were trying to calm the fact it was being made out to be the the biggest disaster since the Titanic sinking in 1912. ... that being said, Titanic should transfer to the Noel Coward. That'd be a good fit actually!! Or maybe they're demolishing the theatre and turning it into a block of flats?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2016 15:40:57 GMT
I agree, my comments were trying to calm the fact it was being made out to be the the biggest disaster since the Titanic sinking in 1912. ... that being said, Titanic should transfer to the Noel Coward. That'd be a good fit actually!! Or maybe they're demolishing the theatre and turning it into a block of flats? Yeah, lets get Titanic in! May need some names to sell it though, I wonder if Sheridan is free...
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2016 16:44:14 GMT
Perhaps the ushers and the box office staff could jump on the stage and put on a show, if they're really there every moment of the day with absolutely nothing to do. I never said they were there every day when it's dark. They're either going to be at home or will be at another CamMac theatre. Even if they're at home though they still get paid I think
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2016 16:46:46 GMT
Of course I know this. Lots of theatres go dark in the west end for a couple of weeks in between shows but they almost always have a show in advance which is open to booking. To have one show close and not have another one announced is very unusual in London especially when there is so many shows looking for venues. They're not making money now, are they? Thats showbiz honey. If you can't handle the heat, get outta the kitchen. sh*t happens, those who work at the theatre know that. Just because you work in a theatre doesn't mean you know more than people who don't? I had a course in London a few weeks back and I was at a theatre in London for 3 days working with the people who work there so I know quite a bit of day to day life in a WE theatre All I said in the first place was that I was surprised nothing has been confirmed yet as its unusual to close a show with nothing else lined up.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2016 16:48:16 GMT
Perhaps the ushers and the box office staff could jump on the stage and put on a show, if they're really there every moment of the day with absolutely nothing to do. I never said they were there every day when it's dark. They're either going to be at home or will be at another CamMac theatre. Even if there at home though they still get payed I think Dependant on their contract type. Some will get holiday pay, some will move theatres, some will leave the job. Also, "they are" and "paid". Haha.
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Post by Jon on Aug 28, 2016 16:55:32 GMT
It's possible the theatre having a small refurb before the next show is coming in, it's not unusual and the West End isn't in crisis
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Post by danb on Aug 28, 2016 16:55:57 GMT
Thats showbiz honey. If you can't handle the heat, get outta the kitchen. sh*t happens, those who work at the theatre know that. Just because you work in a theatre doesn't mean you know more than people who don't? I had a course in London a few weeks back and I was at a theatre in London for 3 days working with the people who work there so I know quite a bit of day to day life in a WE theatre All I said in the first place was that I was surprised nothing has been confirmed yet as its unusual to close a show with nothing else lined up. Unusual, but not unheard of George. Depending how large the production is, and how deep the Producers pockets are, they could just give a weeks notice if it was the difference between going under or saving some of their investment. (And also the perameters of the original contract with the theatre, crew and cast). Please don't lapse into know-it-all mode again; it is most unnappealing and does you and your enthusiasm a disservice. 👍
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2016 17:05:07 GMT
Thats showbiz honey. If you can't handle the heat, get outta the kitchen. sh*t happens, those who work at the theatre know that. Just because you work in a theatre doesn't mean you know more than people who don't? I had a course in London a few weeks back and I was at a theatre in London for 3 days working with the people who work there so I know quite a bit of day to day life in a WE theatre All I said in the first place was that I was surprised nothing has been confirmed yet as its unusual to close a show with nothing else lined up. I didn't say I know more than anyone else just because I work in a theatre. It is common knowlage that theatre is a game of Russian Roulette. Anything can flop. Both actors and people who work in the theatre know that and know what they are getting into when they sign up for a show. And your comment kind of makes no sense that you imply I am trying to be a know it all but then you say you know know quite a bit...
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2016 17:06:31 GMT
Ushers don't get paid when they don't work. You get paid per shift. In-House tech teams get paid for the duration, but this really isn't as dramatic as everyone is making out.
Half A Sixpence is about to announce. They're waiting for it to close in Chichester first.
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Post by Hamilton Addict on Aug 28, 2016 17:07:25 GMT
Just because you work in a theatre doesn't mean you know more than people who don't? I had a course in London a few weeks back and I was at a theatre in London for 3 days working with the people who work there so I know quite a bit of day to day life in a WE theatre All I said in the first place was that I was surprised nothing has been confirmed yet as its unusual to close a show with nothing else lined up. And your comment kind of makes no sense that you imply I am trying to be a know it all but then you say you know know quite a bit...
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Post by theatremadness on Aug 28, 2016 17:14:21 GMT
Lovely George, people are not trying to get into a competition with you. This is not a "who knows most about the West End wins" type situation. People are just giving you context as to how they know what they know - exactly as you are entitled to do, but getting so defensive is just going to rattle people's cages.
I think the main thing, above people getting paid and losing money etc, is that what people are trying to get through is that it's really not necessarily all that "remarkable how nothing has been confirmed" and that it's not a "terrible situation". As others have said, the West End is not in crisis and mrmusicals, who I find a very reliable poster, has just assured everyone that an announcement will come.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2016 17:28:19 GMT
Just because you work in a theatre doesn't mean you know more than people who don't? I had a course in London a few weeks back and I was at a theatre in London for 3 days working with the people who work there so I know quite a bit of day to day life in a WE theatre All I said in the first place was that I was surprised nothing has been confirmed yet as its unusual to close a show with nothing else lined up. Unusual, but not unheard of George. Depending how large the production is, and how deep the Producers pockets are, they could just give a weeks notice if it was the difference between going under or saving some of their investment. (And also the perameters of the original contract with the theatre, crew and cast). Please don't lapse into know-it-all mode again; it is most unnappealing and does you and your enthusiasm a disservice. 👍 Yeah I'm really, really sorry to everyone. I read my posts again and I realised I was abit of an idiot. I think I just get quite fed up of some people (not necessarily all on here) thinking that I don't know much at all about the theatre world because of my age when actually I love to research and follow it all. That might be me just being stupid but I sometimes feel like that with occasional people, that I'm almost inexperienced. Sorry again if I got to defensive...
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Post by barricadegirl86 on Aug 28, 2016 17:30:19 GMT
Half A Sixpence is about to announce. They're waiting for it to close in Chichester first. Woo Hoo! A comment resembling a rumour! At last. This thread went straight from being "I wish/think" to "who gets paid what when the theatre's dark".
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2016 17:36:58 GMT
Half A Sixpence is about to announce. They're waiting for it to close in Chichester first. I sincerely hope this turns out to be true as I think more people should get a chance to see the Incredibly Talented Charlie Stemp.
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Post by danb on Aug 28, 2016 17:37:07 GMT
Half A Sixpence is about to announce. They're waiting for it to close in Chichester first. Woo Hoo! A comment resembling a rumour! At last. This thread went straight from being "I wish/think" to "who gets paid what when the theatre's dark". ...with Idina Menzel & Hugh Jackman! 😀
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Post by d'James on Aug 28, 2016 20:36:47 GMT
I never said they were there every day when it's dark. They're either going to be at home or will be at another CamMac theatre. Even if there at home though they still get payed I think Dependant on their contract type. Some will get holiday pay, some will move theatres, some will leave the job. Also, "they are" and "paid". Haha. *'Dependent,' and from a subsequent post, 'knowledge.'
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Post by DuchessConstance on Aug 28, 2016 23:47:46 GMT
I asked one of the Strife cast the other day about the rumoured transfer (not musical, sorry) and they said they didn't know yet but it was a possibility and they all hoped so.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2016 9:56:09 GMT
Strife is an interesting one. It's in some ways a shame that none of the subsidised theatres in London (apart from the NT and the Orange Tree) would nowadays put on such a production of such a play. So a London transfer is dependant on commercial factors, and on sky-high pricing of many tickets, and would probably sit in an imperfect theatre.
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Post by barricadegirl86 on Aug 29, 2016 17:22:15 GMT
Woo Hoo! A comment resembling a rumour! At last. This thread went straight from being "I wish/think" to "who gets paid what when the theatre's dark". ...with Idina Menzel & Hugh Jackman! 😀 "I don't believe a word of it. A single blinkin' word of it!" (with just 75% of the notes hit, which is fine apparently).
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Post by basdfg on Sept 20, 2016 16:53:23 GMT
Has the ENO concert for next year been announced yet? I hope My Fair Lady comes back In the next few years
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Post by westendwendy on Sept 20, 2016 17:17:57 GMT
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Post by firefingers on Sept 20, 2016 18:05:12 GMT
I hope My Fair Lady comes back In the next few years As I understand, that will be Cameron Mackintosh's retirement gift/plan. Produce that one last time and retire.
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Post by Jon on Sept 20, 2016 19:25:36 GMT
I hope My Fair Lady comes back In the next few years As I understand, that will be Cameron Mackintosh's retirement gift/plan. Produce that one last time and retire. It's the 60th anniversary in two years so it would make sense for him to produce it then at either Drury Lane or Prince Edward
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