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Post by zak97 on Aug 19, 2016 15:47:11 GMT
I really hope Half a Sixpence also transfers, and I really hope that it hasn't fallen through. I only worry as this could explain why the Noel Coward looks like it could be going dark until something else is announced - with the closing of Impossible being close to Sixpence closing at CFT, a direct transfer would have been ideal? (But maybe set design changes for the proscenium arch could explain this). But also, with the EPK released today (that states CFT end date), surely wouldn't it have been a good marketing tool to release the EPK at the time of transfer (mentioning the WE theatre) as it would be a new way of generating interest. Personally, I hope these two theories aren't true.
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Post by broadwaylover99 on Aug 19, 2016 15:52:53 GMT
Also, I reckon Hedwig would do great in the Duke of York's, in NYC, it was in the Belasco which was a similar sized house and also typically a playhouse. Plus the aisles would work too for what Hedwig needs
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2016 14:30:15 GMT
I've got a weird feeling Who's Afraid of Virginnia Wolf could go to the Duke of Yorks? Sonia Friedman puts lots of her shows in that theatre
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2016 13:05:20 GMT
I am finding it remarkable how nothing has been confirmed for the Noel Coward!! The theatre is now dark and that is a terrible situation for any theatre to be in and with no show confirmed, I wouldn't be surprised if another show goes into there until October to build up promotion.
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Post by broadwaylover99 on Aug 28, 2016 13:12:54 GMT
I am finding it remarkable how nothing has been confirmed for the Noel Coward!! The theatre is now dark and that is a terrible situation for any theatre to be in and with no show confirmed, I wouldn't be surprised if another show goes into there until October to build up promotion. It's hardly that big of a deal that's it's gone dark, it's not really a 'terrible situation', I think you're overexaggerating a bit there |
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Post by jgblunners on Aug 28, 2016 13:14:58 GMT
I am finding it remarkable how nothing has been confirmed for the Noel Coward!! The theatre is now dark and that is a terrible situation for any theatre to be in and with no show confirmed, I wouldn't be surprised if another show goes into there until October to build up promotion. It's hardly that big of a deal that's it's gone dark, it's not really a 'terrible situation', I think you're overexaggerating a bit there It may not be a disaster, but it's certainly unusual for Cam Mack to not have anything announced - there's usually at least one show lined up in each of his theatres. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2016 13:27:16 GMT
I am finding it remarkable how nothing has been confirmed for the Noel Coward!! The theatre is now dark and that is a terrible situation for any theatre to be in and with no show confirmed, I wouldn't be surprised if another show goes into there until October to build up promotion. It's hardly that big of a deal that's it's gone dark, it's not really a 'terrible situation', I think you're overexaggerating a bit there Well it's not exactly a good thing, is it? I mean they're losing money each day with it being dark. You forget they still have to pay box office, ushers, tech crew etc and how are they going to do that when they aren't receiving money? Box Office could still be open but nobody will visit it because there's no shows to book for. They're losing money and I agree it seems weird of Cam Mac not announcing a show in advance. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2016 13:33:13 GMT
with it being dark. You forget they still have to pay box office, ushers, tech crew etc Is this true? Or are there just a handful of key permanent staff and most others casually employed as and when required? And can some of the permanent ones be temporarily redeployed to cover staff on leave at other Cam Mack theatres, which could be cheaper than employing additional cover there? |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2016 13:42:29 GMT
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Post by theatremadness on Aug 28, 2016 13:48:49 GMT
Obviously no one wants to ever lose that amount of money, but it's not like Cameron Mackintosh is short of change!! I'm sure he's got the situation under control whether it's planned or not.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2016 13:51:22 GMT
I agree, it is hardly the biggest disaster of our generation. At least it is a small theatre so less staff are effected. This happens more than you think in the West End for a few weeks. Once a show is announced (no doubt in the next couple of weeks) the box office at the theatre opens up again and staff slowly return. They will be fine.
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Post by stevej678 on Aug 28, 2016 13:55:00 GMT
with it being dark. You forget they still have to pay box office, ushers, tech crew etc Is this true? Or are there just a handful of key permanent staff and most others casually employed as and when required? And can some of the permanent ones be temporarily redeployed to cover staff on leave at other Cam Mack theatres, which could be cheaper than employing additional cover there? I'm sure Theresa May will convene a COBRA meeting to discuss this crisis situation as a matter of urgency. I can't imagine the unions are happy either. That poor army of ushers, standing there night after night in the darkness with no customers to show to their seats, while the team of box office staff sit there twiddling their thumbs, longing for the sight of a customer. Still, this would count as a busy night at The Go Between so they should probably count their blessings. Panic over! |
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Post by Hamilton Addict on Aug 28, 2016 14:25:03 GMT
Is this true? Or are there just a handful of key permanent staff and most others casually employed as and when required? And can some of the permanent ones be temporarily redeployed to cover staff on leave at other Cam Mack theatres, which could be cheaper than employing additional cover there? That poor army of ushers, standing there night after night in the darkness with no customers to show to their seats. I actually think that the ushers really want to show people their seats. At The Colour Purple on Broadway, we were making our way to our seats and the usher asked us to wait at for her. I'm sure we would've been able to find the seats by ourselves, but she was determined to help us LOL. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2016 14:29:02 GMT
The ushers, tech team etc will probably not go in every night but they still need to be payed as this is their job and it isn't their fault there is no show at that venue.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2016 14:31:56 GMT
The ushers, tech team etc will probably not go in every night but they still need to be payed as this is their job and it isn't their fault there is no show at that venue. I had a job interview for a theatre in the West End, some Ushers are given contracts to match the contracts of the show do they are not out of work, they were intended to leave anyway. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2016 14:36:11 GMT
The ushers, tech team etc will probably not go in every night but they still need to be payed as this is their job and it isn't their fault there is no show at that venue. I had a job interview for a theatre in the West End, some Ushers are given contracts to match the contracts of the show do they are not out of work, they were intended to leave anyway. But the majority of ushers work full time for the theatre company (ATG, CamMac etc) so they can be moved in and around of the theatres owned by the company. I was based at a theatre in London a few weeks ago for a week and the ushers were telling me all about their roles and most of them had been their for several months over several shows. You have loads of roles in theatre like stage door keeper, administrator, managers, ushers, box office, cellar, technical crew etc and all these people must be payed by the company but when they are dark, there is no money being made from ticket and merchandise sales to pay them thus they loose money |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2016 14:54:43 GMT
I had a job interview for a theatre in the West End, some Ushers are given contracts to match the contracts of the show do they are not out of work, they were intended to leave anyway. But the majority of ushers work full time for the theatre company (ATG, CamMac etc) so they can be moved in and around of the theatres owned by the company. I was based at a theatre in London a few weeks ago for a week and the ushers were telling me all about their roles and most of them had been their for several months over several shows. You have loads of roles in theatre like stage door keeper, administrator, managers, ushers, box office, cellar, technical crew etc and all these people must be payed by the company but when they are dark, there is no money being made from ticket and merchandise sales to pay them thus they loose money Obviously I am aware of all of this. You do realise the vast majority have to stay though right, even when a show is closed? I work in a well known UK theatre and have for 6 Months and we are in our month of no shows at the minute for refurb. The tech team have to stay to make the fixtures safe, the management stay to prep for the next show, clening and maintinance is done. Only the ushers/merch and bar staff, as well as maybe one or two people from each department leave, and they transfer to other ares. Some in London, some aorund the UK. It really is not as big a deal as being made out. Once the current show ends, if a new show is announced this week or next, it is just a holiday for most of the staff anyway. |
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Post by broadwaylover99 on Aug 28, 2016 14:56:16 GMT
[quote author="@westendlover" source=[/quote] when they are dark, there is no money being made from ticket and merchandise sales to pay them thus they loose money [/quote]
Trust me, they aren't losing money by not having the theatre have a show in. CamMack is anything but strapped for cash so they will most definitely not be struggling for money
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2016 15:03:16 GMT
But the majority of ushers work full time for the theatre company (ATG, CamMac etc) so they can be moved in and around of the theatres owned by the company. I was based at a theatre in London a few weeks ago for a week and the ushers were telling me all about their roles and most of them had been their for several months over several shows. You have loads of roles in theatre like stage door keeper, administrator, managers, ushers, box office, cellar, technical crew etc and all these people must be payed by the company but when they are dark, there is no money being made from ticket and merchandise sales to pay them thus they loose money Obviously I am aware of all of this. You do realise the vast majority have to stay though right, even when a show is closed? I work in a well known UK theatre and have for 6 Months and we are in our month of no shows at the minute for refurb. The tech team have to stay to make the fixtures safe, the management stay to prep for the next show, clening and maintinance is done. Only the ushers/merch and bar staff, as well as maybe one or two people from each department leave, and they transfer to other ares. Some in London, some aorund the UK. It really is not as big a deal as being made out. Once the current show ends, if a new show is announced this week or next, it is just a holiday for most of the staff anyway. Of course I know this. Lots of theatres go dark in the west end for a couple of weeks in between shows but they almost always have a show in advance which is open to booking. To have one show close and not have another one announced is very unusual in London especially when there is so many shows looking for venues. They're not making money now, are they? |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2016 15:07:12 GMT
They're not making money now, are they? Presumably they were making a bigger weekly loss while their last show was running, which is why they closed it a month early? |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2016 15:09:42 GMT
They're not making money now, are they? Presumably they were making a bigger weekly loss while their last show was running, which is why they closed it a month early? Impossible was always only ever on until the 27th August anyway?? And I doubt they wouldn't closed it early if nothing else was lined up for the theatre? |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2016 15:17:54 GMT
So... Day 1 of what seems like the Noel Coward's eternal darkness...
If there were no rumors for Half A Sixpence, I would suggest Groundhog Day gets in there as soon as it finishes at the Old Vic in 3 weeks - and put the Broadway transfer on hold for a year or so!
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Post by stevej678 on Aug 28, 2016 15:17:56 GMT
Of course I know this. Lots of theatres go dark in the west end for a couple of weeks in between shows but they almost always have a show in advance which is open to booking. To have one show close and not have another one announced is very unusual in London especially when there is so many shows looking for venues. They're not making money now, are they? Does it really matter? |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2016 15:21:34 GMT
Obviously I am aware of all of this. You do realise the vast majority have to stay though right, even when a show is closed? I work in a well known UK theatre and have for 6 Months and we are in our month of no shows at the minute for refurb. The tech team have to stay to make the fixtures safe, the management stay to prep for the next show, clening and maintinance is done. Only the ushers/merch and bar staff, as well as maybe one or two people from each department leave, and they transfer to other ares. Some in London, some aorund the UK. It really is not as big a deal as being made out. Once the current show ends, if a new show is announced this week or next, it is just a holiday for most of the staff anyway. Of course I know this. Lots of theatres go dark in the west end for a couple of weeks in between shows but they almost always have a show in advance which is open to booking. To have one show close and not have another one announced is very unusual in London especially when there is so many shows looking for venues. They're not making money now, are they? Thats showbiz honey. If you can't handle the heat, get outta the kitchen. sh*t happens, those who work at the theatre know that. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2016 15:24:00 GMT
Perhaps the ushers and the box office staff could jump on the stage and put on a show, if they're really there every moment of the day with absolutely nothing to do.
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