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Post by danb on Jan 10, 2021 21:00:59 GMT
She’s an excellent pop star Kevin, and was great playing a version of herself in Desperately Seeking Susan. Everything else bar the fluke of Evita has been pretty grim.
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Post by clair on Jan 10, 2021 21:09:40 GMT
I know this is off the original topic but the one really good thing Madonna did when I saw 'Up For Grabs' was the opposite of the play's title. The performance that I saw I came out glad to have seen it, not rating her acting but being impressed that when she was on stage but in the background she stayed completely still and never attempted to take attention from the other actors in the foreground. Most of the audience were there to see Madonna and all she would have had to do was move her head to get that attention - many a 'better' actor has been unable to have the grace to do that in a variety of productions that I've seen!
Do I think she can act Norma? No but then I'm not the one getting to cast it, who knows what will happen - if it ever does happen.
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Post by danb on Jan 10, 2021 21:25:34 GMT
I like to think that Alan Parker just didn’t take any crap from her so got to complete his vision his way. He would have been a great choice for Sunset too.
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Post by steve10086 on Jan 10, 2021 21:32:03 GMT
I like to think that Alan Parker just didn’t take any crap from her so got to complete his vision his way. He would have been a great choice for Sunset too. I think he would too. Wouldn’t have tried to do anything “clever” to disguise it being a musical, just would have made a damn good unashamed movie musical, as he did with Evita. |
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Post by distantcousin on Jan 11, 2021 19:39:27 GMT
I like to think that Alan Parker just didn’t take any crap from her so got to complete his vision his way. He would have been a great choice for Sunset too. Indeed. I got the impression she was very reverential towards Parker and pretty much did as she was told (even if she moaned about it in her Vanity Fair diaries!) |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2021 16:42:06 GMT
Would be very happy to see Madonna in this.
But having seen Lady Gaga just belt out the national anthem at the inauguration - struck me that she is no more bonkers a suggestion to play Norma on film than many who have been mooted thus far.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2021 17:41:56 GMT
Would be very happy to see Madonna in this. But having seen Lady Gaga just belt out the national anthem at the inauguration - struck me that she is no more bonkers a suggestion to play Norma on film than many who have been mooted thus far. Haven’t you been arguing Glenn is a decade+ too old? Well Gaga is a decade+ too young. Certainly have. And I've been told repeatedly that the actual age of the actress is not important! I dunno - personally am at the stage where I'd like to leave the opinions of the best and worst Nunn's Normas behind and get someone new and fresh for the film. IMHO there is someone out there. |
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Jan 20, 2021 18:30:49 GMT
Ability to sing it isn’t an issue for cinema. They’d make Madonna sound amazing just as they would Glen. As for the acting, Glen would kill it, Madonna could be ok if they went down the Evita route where it was effectively a long play music video. She’s not great with dialogue but how much Norma dialogue is there? It’s not like it’s full of bleedin’ speeches is it? It’s all soundbites. I think she could handle it and any overacting could be attributed to Norma’s silent movie past. I can see how both of them could be amazing given the right director.
Have we discussed Bette Midler? 🤭
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Post by danb on Jan 20, 2021 22:52:18 GMT
I still say CZJ or maybe Pfeiffer. She’s a cracking actress with an ok voice.
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Post by missbabs on Oct 6, 2021 18:43:23 GMT
ALW has announced that the film version has stalled - Paramount are not interested.
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Oct 6, 2021 19:00:41 GMT
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Post by steve10086 on Oct 6, 2021 19:09:46 GMT
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Post by max on Oct 6, 2021 19:30:46 GMT
I wonder if a recorded/video performance (or a few pers edited), is low enough status for Paramount to allow instead.
So many films fall flat, it might be better. I'd rather have the Live TV 'JCS' with John Legend than someone's high stakes movie remake, which was touted a few years before. I think Glenn Close's performance is worth capturing.
While they're about it - the Hal Prince 'Evita' should be captured forever. Lady Gaga please.
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Post by inthenose on Oct 6, 2021 19:40:49 GMT
Gutted
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Oct 6, 2021 19:43:10 GMT
Just to make the point that this is another “ALW says” situation (assuming the report is true) and we all know what a prize bullsh*tter he is.
Difficult to see why he would say this if not true but …
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Post by Jon on Oct 6, 2021 19:43:31 GMT
I wonder if a recorded/video performance (or a few pers edited), is low enough status for Paramount to allow instead. So many films fall flat, it might be better. I'd rather have the Live TV 'JCS' with John Legend than someone's high stakes movie remake, which was touted a few years before. I think Glenn Close's performance is worth capturing. While they're about it - the Hal Prince 'Evita' should be captured forever. Lady Gaga please. Paramount is very protected of their IP that I cannot see them doing a filmed performance being allowed if they don't want a movie musical. |
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Post by hairspray57 on Oct 6, 2021 19:55:38 GMT
I wonder if a recorded/video performance (or a few pers edited), is low enough status for Paramount to allow instead. So many films fall flat, it might be better. I'd rather have the Live TV 'JCS' with John Legend than someone's high stakes movie remake, which was touted a few years before. I think Glenn Close's performance is worth capturing. While they're about it - the Hal Prince 'Evita' should be captured forever. Lady Gaga please. Paramount is very protected of their IP that I cannot see them doing a filmed performance being allowed if they don't want a movie musical. Is their opposition due to that or because they simply don’t think it’s a profitable project? . |
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Post by hairspray57 on Oct 6, 2021 19:57:05 GMT
I wonder if a recorded/video performance (or a few pers edited), is low enough status for Paramount to allow instead. So many films fall flat, it might be better. I'd rather have the Live TV 'JCS' with John Legend than someone's high stakes movie remake, which was touted a few years before. I think Glenn Close's performance is worth capturing. While they're about it - the Hal Prince 'Evita' should be captured forever. Lady Gaga please. Lady Gaga is not Hispanic so I doubt rightly or wrongly that would be able to happen anymore. |
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Post by robertb213 on Oct 6, 2021 20:15:22 GMT
So Paramount don't want to make it but they don't want anyone else to make it either? Seems unfair! Sell it to someone who can make something awesome for us, everyone's a winner 😁
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Post by marob on Oct 6, 2021 20:26:25 GMT
Shame. And odd considering that a lot of the stuff on Paramount Plus is a remake or continuation of some sort.
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Post by Jon on Oct 6, 2021 20:55:59 GMT
So Paramount don't want to make it but they don't want anyone else to make it either? Seems unfair! Sell it to someone who can make something awesome for us, everyone's a winner 😁 It's not unfair in the slightest, it's their IP and they can do whatever they like with it. Had Sunset been a hit on the scale of Phantom or Cats, they would have greenlit a film version years ago but the fact no film version of the musical has ever got off the ground suggests that it's simply not commercially viable in their eyes. |
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Post by robertb213 on Oct 6, 2021 21:15:55 GMT
So Paramount don't want to make it but they don't want anyone else to make it either? Seems unfair! Sell it to someone who can make something awesome for us, everyone's a winner 😁 It's not unfair in the slightest, it's their IP and they can do whatever they like with it. Had Sunset been a hit on the scale of Phantom or Cats, they would have greenlit a film version years ago but the fact no film version of the musical has ever got off the ground suggests that it's simply not commercially viable in their eyes. Fair enough, I guess. Still seems pretty baseless though. It's a well known award-winning title which regularly sells, and production costs wouldn't be huge other than salaries. I don't see why they think it's any less likely to be profitable than Sweeney Todd, Into The Woods, Rent....all of which are arguably less accessible musicals but still got made into films. Maybe they didn't make the right amount of dollars back I guess. Seems a shame. I'll have to keep hold of my Glenn Close bootlegs 😄 |
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Post by scarpia on Oct 6, 2021 23:19:14 GMT
Paramount is very protected of their IP that I cannot see them doing a filmed performance being allowed if they don't want a movie musical. Is their opposition due to that or because they simply don’t think it’s a profitable project? . I think their reluctance is understandable. No film adaptation of any of ALW's shows has been commercially successful at the cinema other than Evita, and even that one is not without problems and hasn't aged too well. When you have a prestige film like the original Sunset in your back catalogue, opening yourself up to what could just be a hiding to nothing probably doesn't seem worth it to Paramount. The news isn't surprising. I knew Paramount hadn't greenlit and that Glenn's constant statements that they were ready to make it was just her putting feelers out. |
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Post by danb on Oct 7, 2021 7:27:46 GMT
As with everything, it needs to turn a profit in a relatively short amount of time. If projections show that it won’t do so they won’t spend the money on it. I know I wouldn’t even if I had money to burn. Filming stuff on stage is the answer to this, so that we get a record of the production with minimal outlay.
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Post by Phantom of London on Oct 7, 2021 11:49:48 GMT
Next year isn’t the Perfect Year.
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