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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2017 17:29:25 GMT
Was the Half a Sixpence white controversy really that big an issue? Lets be realistic, it was discussed on here a little bit, but it was hardly a national scandal. I think the reason it was shut out was because there was alot of confusion as to whether it was revival or new musi al so people voted in both and it ended up missing out as it splitthe vote. And as for Choreography, it was a year where they had to get Harry Potter in every catagory, thats probably why it got shut out. It has nothing to do with white people.
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Post by Dawnstar on Apr 11, 2017 17:35:27 GMT
I was one of many who wrote about the sudden but subtle emergence of all white, large cast shows (Promises, Promises was another) and it made people very uncomfortable because they had got used to seeing diverse and colour blind productions. I suspect Oliviers didn't want to be subject to an article from The Stage et al if it awarded Half a Sixpence anything. I'd hardly call it a sudden emergence. Most of the shows I've loved & repeat-viewed in the last few years have had all white casts, as far as I can recall: Lend Me A Tenor, Crazy For You, Top Hat, Zorro (admittedly many of the cast were Hispanic but I'd still consider that white) and the original casts of all 3 Mischief Theatre shows. None of those, as far as I recall, had any mention let alone criticism for having all white casts so I don't see why Half A Sixpence got slated for the same thing. |
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Apr 11, 2017 17:55:22 GMT
'Should have,' not 'should of.' You need to be mindful of that one. I understand you're just trying to correct my grammar so don't feel I am directing this at you personally, but it annoys me when grammar gets picked up on so much, to a point where it makes people feel like crap for not getting the smallest thing right. I went to school, clearly I didn't do well. But I'm an adult, and as long as generally speaking people understand what I am saying, I couldn't care less if I get the odd wording here or there wrong. But I don't want to and shouldn't be made to feel like crap for that. Again, don't feel this is aimed at you personally, just having a rant haha. On that point, I know there are one or two specific grammar police in the admin (and they know who they are) who complain about it alot on here. You guys have the power to edit posts, if it bothers you that much, just edit the damn thing, I wouldn't noticeid you edited mine at all. Um, no. Not really. Some admin team members have contributed to discussions about it. They are entitled to an opinion but we are not 'policing' grammar on here, we have not initiated discussions about it and to suggest that we have is disingenuous. If you want to have a row about it with the person who called you out, feel free. Don't bring Admin into it. Thanks. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2017 19:05:44 GMT
Oooo Sophie Louise-Dann really is the face of botox isn't she! Not just the character, but herself!
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Post by Dawnstar on Apr 11, 2017 19:09:42 GMT
Oooo Sophie Louise-Dann really is the face of botox isn't she! Not just the character, but herself! I was too busy wondering what she had done to her hair! What is ITV doing with the sound of this broadcast? Jason Manford is louder than the entire cast of The Girls. |
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Post by shady23 on Apr 11, 2017 19:12:14 GMT
Jason Manford doesn't half go on doesn't he...
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Post by Dawnstar on Apr 11, 2017 19:13:48 GMT
"Even treat yourself to a trip to London's West End." Doesn't that just reinforce the sterotype that people should only go to the theatre occasionally?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2017 19:20:16 GMT
I will warn you guys, at the start of Amber's speech she says "I play Effie White every night" and almost spat out my tea when I heard it last night.
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Post by Mark on Apr 11, 2017 19:24:16 GMT
Oooo lovely advert for The Girls.
Im guessing they are skipping some of the technical awards since it skipped straight to Best Play.
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Post by Dawnstar on Apr 11, 2017 19:29:22 GMT
Surely they can't be showing these awards in order? Because if so they have left out literally half the awards. Assuming the list on the Oliver website is in order of presentation, which as far as I can remember from Twitter on Sunday it is, then Best Actress was number 1 & Best New Play number 14 out of 26 awards.
Amber Riley is doing nothing for me. I guess I'm fine to continue not to see Dreamgirls then.
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Post by shady23 on Apr 11, 2017 19:32:53 GMT
Such a dull event so far.
Do they even want to attract new audiences to the theatre?
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Post by Dawnstar on Apr 11, 2017 19:40:38 GMT
I'm guessing The Red Shoes is rather more interesting seen in the theatre in full? Nothing about the except just shown really screamed Best Choreography.
So, is everone else too glued to the Olivers to post or are there only about 5 of us actually bothering to watch?
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Post by viserys on Apr 11, 2017 19:46:14 GMT
I'm being beaten by the timezone again. I followed the first half on the radio and Twitter on Sunday, then went to bed. Now I'm watching on ITV but again I feel I rather crawl into bed and hope it's still around as a stream tomorrow.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2017 19:49:09 GMT
And I WAS going to book to see the return of JCS this year.
Maybe not now....
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Post by mrbarnaby on Apr 11, 2017 19:49:41 GMT
If they have any chance of making the Oliviers on tv rise above tedium, they are going to have to broadcast it live, it isn't in the slightest bit worth watching it when the winners were announced 2 days previous. It also looks cheap as chips.
How can they get it so wrong year after year? I've had the mispleasure of sitting through many ceremonies live and it's just as boring in the room.
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Post by Dawnstar on Apr 11, 2017 19:51:51 GMT
And I WAS going to book to see the return of JCS this year. Maybe not now.... Yup. So far the performances have mostly put me off/justfied me not going to the shows featured. |
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Post by mrbarnaby on Apr 11, 2017 19:53:04 GMT
So all in all it's a success then? It's actively putting people (who like theatre) off going to the theatre.
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Post by alece10 on Apr 11, 2017 19:56:24 GMT
Decisions, decisions. Do I stick with this of turn over to BBC1 and watch Car Share with Peter Kay followed by Victoria Wood?
Think the beeb has won.
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Post by Dawnstar on Apr 11, 2017 20:01:46 GMT
I'm only hanging on to see the Groundhog Day performance & possibly see The Comedy About a Bank Robbery lose the Best New Comedy Olivier, if ITV even bothers to show that award.
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Post by shady23 on Apr 11, 2017 20:02:04 GMT
Well, that "be inspired" section has possibly left me feeling the most uninspired I have ever been in my life.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2017 20:09:20 GMT
I'm recording it on Sky+ so I can just skip through the adverts, crappy performances and the Harry Potter wins to watch the occasional things I actually care about, which isn't much this year.
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Post by Dawnstar on Apr 11, 2017 20:09:58 GMT
The only thing that would ever get me to see School Of Rock would be several million pounds. And a frontal lobotomy.
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Post by Dawnstar on Apr 11, 2017 20:29:45 GMT
Well, that's about a third of the awards crammed into about a minute and a half so I didn't even get to see TCAABR not winning.
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Post by longinthetooth on Apr 11, 2017 20:33:32 GMT
Amber Riley does nothing for me either. Screaming and screeching and yelling at maximum decibel level isn't my thing I'm afraid.
Yes, they are showing the awards in a different order (I know someone who was there). At least we can fast forward through the ads and bits we don't like, which should cut it down somewhat (I'm already catching up quite well!).
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2017 20:36:21 GMT
I'm guessing The Red Shoes is rather more interesting seen in the theatre in full? Nothing about the except just shown really screamed Best Choreography. So, is everone else too glued to the Olivers to post or are there only about 5 of us actually bothering to watch? Currently twiddling my thumbs waiting for it to finish recording, so I can skip through the boring bits, the performances I know I won't like (that'll be most of them) and just watch the speeches I actually care about. I could have edited this show down to about 30 mins total. ;-) |
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