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Post by xanady on Jul 30, 2019 19:08:37 GMT
Thanks,pianowithsam
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Post by alece10 on Jul 30, 2019 20:27:06 GMT
The conductor we saw numerous times at 42nd Street was always very animated as he rose gracefully on his podium and then descended...always had a look over his shoulder with a knowing grin..great fun! Jae Alexander I believe his name is. Jae was as much a part of the show as any of the cast. He was a pleasure to watch especially from the front row and seems to love every minute. I stayed everytime at the front to watch him play the orchestra out at the end. Hope we get to see him on the film. |
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Post by pianowithsam on Jul 30, 2019 20:33:13 GMT
Jae Alexander I believe his name is. Jae was as much a part of the show as any of the cast. He was a pleasure to watch especially from the front row and seems to love every minute. I stayed everytime at the front to watch him play the orchestra out at the end. Hope we get to see him on the film. Yes! To be honest, he felt as much a part of the show as the cast. The fact that he was raised during the Overture was quite exciting - not something I'd seen before. I REALLY hope they leave the Overture and Exit Music in the film. Absolutely gutting if they don't. It's fab. |
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Post by theoracle on Jul 30, 2019 20:45:11 GMT
Just wanted to ask again also, has Sheridan Smith come out at all of stage door during the run so far? I managed to get one of the signed photo cards from security but feel like there’s something a little cheap about doing this. I understand this is not an obligation on the actors part but I’d much rather she just not come out rather than get security to hand out photos if you know what I mean. Apparently Jason’s been out most nights though and came out very quickly last night.
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Post by danb on Jul 30, 2019 20:52:53 GMT
If she knows it isn’t good for her why would she?
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Post by greeny11 on Jul 30, 2019 21:08:25 GMT
Saw this tonight and loved it. I thought Sheridan was brilliant as the Narrator. She did a lot of the looks to the audience during Legally Blonde, but it felt more appropriate here - she was very funny and sang well. Jac Yarrow is a real find as Joseph - Close Every Door got the loudest reception of the night, with applause going on for a good 30-40 seconds.
Having not seen the show for nearly 20 years, I'd forgotten how much I enjoy this score - the band did it justice, and they sounded amazing, led by the most energetic MD I've ever seen!
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Post by theoracle on Jul 30, 2019 21:28:32 GMT
If she knows it isn’t good for her why would she? Why would it not be good for her? Posing with her fans surely sends out a more positive message than getting a security guard to pass around photos |
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Post by dontdreamit on Jul 30, 2019 21:28:34 GMT
Just wanted to ask again also, has Sheridan Smith come out at all of stage door during the run so far? I managed to get one of the signed photo cards from security but feel like there’s something a little cheap about doing this. I understand this is not an obligation on the actors part but I’d much rather she just not come out rather than get security to hand out photos if you know what I mean. Apparently Jason’s been out most nights though and came out very quickly last night. I’ve not seen her at all, nor has any of the other people who I know who have been down. But if that’s her choice, that’s her choice! I think the cards are nice personally. Best time to see Jason if you wanted to is before the show. It’s super busy afterwards, especially as the theatre exits come out next to the stage door. |
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Post by danb on Jul 30, 2019 22:08:53 GMT
If she knows it isn’t good for her why would she? Why would it not be good for her? Posing with her fans surely sends out a more positive message than getting a security guard to pass around photos I meant more about how it makes her feel, anxiety feeds into her self worth etc. She won’t remember the good stuff, just the one whispered snide comment that she overhears. Or perhaps she just doesn’t want everyones germs? Either way she is under no obligation so should do whatever keeps her safe for the next day. |
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Post by xanady on Jul 30, 2019 22:32:10 GMT
Handing out pics that could have been signed by anyone(see the limo scene in The Bodyguard movie) is better than nothing,but feels patronising and a bit 50’s Hollywood Superstar...which she is not! Know a lot of people who have seen this debacle and don’t believe she has been out once.Please correct me if anyone has met her at the Palladium SD.Plays the same ‘friend of the people’ character again and again on stage/tv/concerts but not willing to do the odd SD?Perhaps saving it for paid Meet and Greets? Reminds me of a Stormzy track that my son keeps playing...something about boots?
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Post by shady23 on Jul 31, 2019 5:47:53 GMT
You clearly don't know much about her. She is certainly not the diva you are suggesting. I have met her many times at stage doors over the years and she has been the nicest, most lovely person you can ever meet.
This is the person who released an album before Christmas and said if anyone wants to send the cover to me with an sae I'll write a personalised message on it for you for free. Mine is pride of place.
If she is not doing stage door this time then there is a very good reason for it. Getting a ticket to a show does not entitle you to a meet and greet and I think it's great that they are giving out signed pictures. They did not have to do that.
It seems whatever she does she cannot win.
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Post by popcultureboy on Jul 31, 2019 7:23:34 GMT
Handing out pics that could have been signed by anyone(see the limo scene in The Bodyguard movie) is better than nothing,but feels patronising and a bit 50’s Hollywood Superstar...which she is not! Know a lot of people who have seen this debacle and don’t believe she has been out once.Please correct me if anyone has met her at the Palladium SD.Plays the same ‘friend of the people’ character again and again on stage/tv/concerts but not willing to do the odd SD?Perhaps saving it for paid Meet and Greets? Reminds me of a Stormzy track that my son keeps playing...something about boots? This post is really quite unpleasant. I am no fan of Smith, but to call it "patronising" that she signs loads of pics and gets the security team at stage door to hand them out to people waiting for her autograph is ridiculous. Suggesting that she's not doing stage door as she's too above herself, despite her public persona, and planning to exploit it for cash is groundless character assassination. Not one stage performer is obligated to do more than perform on stage. Nobody has to come out of stage door and do anything for anybody who is waiting for them. This entitled opinion is a relatively recent phenomenon and it's one that needs to go away and fast. |
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Post by xanady on Jul 31, 2019 8:15:44 GMT
popcultureboy,describing my post as unpleasant and ridiculous and saying I am out for character assassination is in itself deeply,deeply hurtful to me on a personal level and extremely regrettable that you choose to take offence at my opinions in such a confrontational way.
I clearly stated that doling out pictures at the SD was better than nothing,but if fans wanted a SD experience with the star of the show and they get a photo with no proof whatsoever that SS actually signed it, then IN MY OPINION it is poor fare.Bear in mind that this is a family show and therefore probably an audience filled with youngsters on a day out possibly from the other end of the country and who may never have been to a show before in their lives and done an SD before.They want to at least get a glimpse of the star of the show as she leaves.She is clearly exiting another way.She is entitled to do this,obviously,but does this sit well with her self-proclaimed ‘national treasure’ persona that we all know she loves to exude? Just a question?
I would put myself in the shoes of young fans at the Palladium SD before bleating about entitled audiences.It’s called empathy! See how the girls in SIX do it in the foyer of the Arts...real class and real star quality...and no pre-signed pics handed out by security.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2019 8:17:12 GMT
Sheridan Smith has had long documented struggles with various aspects of mental health and addiction and clearly had a fairly stormy time doing Funny Girl. If (and it's speculation) she thinks not doing stage door is important as part of her strategy to remain healthy then good on her; she should absolutely do whatever is right for her.
That aside (and this will probably be an unpopular opinion) I actually wish actors would do stage door less. This age of entitlement, fuelled by social media, where customers think they are buying a meet and great is so unhealthy. And every year we see bigger problems with "fans" increasingly confusing themselves with actor's friends. It is escalating out of control and sadly stage door plays a big part.
That said, I say that from the position of never having stage doored and quite liking the degree of separation between myself and the stars on stage.
Sheridan's first priority should be looking after herself and her second keeping herself as well as possible so she can appear on stage every night for the fans that have paid to see Joseph and the Amazing Technicolor Dreamcoat.
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Post by xanady on Jul 31, 2019 8:30:19 GMT
shady23,saying I ‘clearly’ don't know much about her is very patronising.You don’t know a single thing about me on a personal basis,so where does your knowledge of me come from?
By the way,getting fans to buy an album and offering to sign a message on it is known as a marketing ploy and as a dealer friend of mine would tell you,to prove its authenticity as being signed by the artiste herself,it would need to include a certificate and photographic proof at source.
Back to the show and on a positive note...my brother-in-law took his daughter and her friend to see the show and all loved every second of it.So,I am pleased for them on their day out from Nottingham to London.
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Post by ukpuppetboy on Jul 31, 2019 8:44:35 GMT
Handing out pics that could have been signed by anyone(see the limo scene in The Bodyguard movie) is better than nothing,but feels patronising and a bit 50’s Hollywood Superstar...which she is not! Know a lot of people who have seen this debacle and don’t believe she has been out once.Please correct me if anyone has met her at the Palladium SD.Plays the same ‘friend of the people’ character again and again on stage/tv/concerts but not willing to do the odd SD?Perhaps saving it for paid Meet and Greets? Reminds me of a Stormzy track that my son keeps playing...something about boots? This post is really quite unpleasant. I am no fan of Smith, but to call it "patronising" that she signs loads of pics and gets the security team at stage door to hand them out to people waiting for her autograph is ridiculous. Suggesting that she's not doing stage door as she's too above herself, despite her public persona, and planning to exploit it for cash is groundless character assassination. Not one stage performer is obligated to do more than perform on stage. Nobody has to come out of stage door and do anything for anybody who is waiting for them. This entitled opinion is a relatively recent phenomenon and it's one that needs to go away and fast. Personally I think popcultureboy was being generous in merely saying it was an “unpleasant” post. It certainly fit all the criteria of a character assassination to me and the fact that when challenged (politely) the author claims to be “deeply, deeply hurt .. on a personal level” perhaps suggests they should have more empathy with others who have a well documented history of mental health issues and the struggles of living life in a public forum and who seem to have worked hard to come up with a strategy of coping with that whilst managing to stay healthy and continue to do the job they love. Whilst that may conflict with some people’s selfish wishes to feel like they can get close to that person for a few moments or make demands on them outside of their job is irrelevant. And again, selfish. Write her a letter if you have something (nice) to say and I’m sure she will get back to you. But being (repeatedly) vindictive on a public forum surely proves that she is 100% correct in avoiding the whole stage door experience. |
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Post by xanady on Jul 31, 2019 9:03:26 GMT
uk puppet boy,I made no reference to anything regarding mental health issues in any way,shape or form so don’t have a clue what you are alluding to or trying to infer or reference.I have made my points without being vindictive as you incorrectly state and I have made them very clearly and will stick to them.I will now bow out on this thread as offending the permanently-affronted pearl-clutching SS fan club is a fate worse than death....super lol.
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Post by danb on Jul 31, 2019 9:11:15 GMT
YOU may not have mentioned it, but it is the elephant in Sheridans room, and something that anyone on this board couldn’t possibly be unaware of. I’m no fan, but respect the fact that she’s doing what she can to manage her health.
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Post by countryjames on Jul 31, 2019 9:35:19 GMT
John Rigby is a great musical director! Don't suppose you've got any contact details? Try via his agent ... |
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Post by alece10 on Jul 31, 2019 10:18:45 GMT
I know it's not on the same scale as the Palladium but when she did Funny Girl at the Menier she always stopped to chat with fans in the bar after the show which is also the way out and was so nice to them all. I also remember once a fan who was was in a wheelchair eating in the restaurant asked me to tell Sheridan that she was there that night. As soon as I told her she came out into the restaurant to see her and this was before the show started which is always a pretty busy time for the cast. How many actors would do that?
As others have mentioned it seems to he almost an expectation of a meet and greet these days after shows.
Would you go to a pop concert and expect the band to meet the fans at the end.
Mind you I have never stage doored. I am always in a hurry to get home after and also dont fancy the idea of the scrum it normally entails.
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Post by dontdreamit on Jul 31, 2019 11:05:09 GMT
I’ve only ever stage doored for JD, and that’s because we’ve been doing so for about 30 years now! I didn’t even do it for Bat, despite being sorely tempted a few times and being there so much in the end few weeks. But each to their own as long as boundaries are respected (and we’ve seen a lot of dodgy stage door antics from others over the years...)
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Post by theoracle on Jul 31, 2019 12:23:23 GMT
I must say the stage door experience was very much a scrum at the Palladium the other night. I missed Jason but when Jac came out, I couldn’t help but feel kinda sorry for him as people flashed their phones in his face, he looked a little startled himself. I would’ve expected security to make the crowd a little more orderly with barriers etc since it’s on a busy road and kids were there.
On the Sheridan Smith debate, I think she should take the time to look after herself if meeting fans really is just too much for her. All power to her though if she is still struggling and still managing to pull off her goofy persona live on stage 8 times a week. Perhaps she will come out in time but I do agree we need to remember that the stage door is literally just a door, it’s not designated as a meet and greet point. I think if actors are made to come out, it does kind of ruin the specialness of having that time together. Of course it can be disappointing if you’ve been waiting for a long time but we do need to try to fight any feeling of entitlement we may or may not have.
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Post by shady23 on Jul 31, 2019 20:16:34 GMT
By the way,getting fans to buy an album and offering to sign a message on it is known as a marketing ploy and as a dealer friend of mine would tell you,to prove its authenticity as being signed by the artiste herself,it would need to include a certificate and photographic proof at source. If you want to do a "marketing ploy" you scribble a quick signature on some albums and get the record company to sell them for more money than the usual version online. You don't organise a special post office box account, ask people to send them in to you, collect them from your agent, go to the trouble of writing a lovely long personalised message on them and send them back. For no charge. The album was released a long time before she just wanted to do something nice for fans just before Christmas and it's sad you feel there must be some kind of an ulterior motive to this. Plus, to suggest someone else signed them and not her really is the most ridiculous suggestion! |
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Post by max on Jul 31, 2019 20:55:23 GMT
Where was she on 11th July? Opening night at the Palladium.
Where was she on 14th July? Appearing at Lytham Festival, tweeting afterwards:
"Well @lythamfestival was amazing! And I am now an even prouder patron of @tramshedtheatre #inclusivetheatre
Today I am back to London for a show tonight and another insanely busy week at Joseph...bring it on! #staypositive #yougotthis"
Seems to me like someone who believes in what she does, and aims not to let people down. Perhaps that's why she's doing everything to protect her health and stamina and be on that stage for what people have paid for - her performance - not showboating at stage door.
Xanady - try a bit of her #staypositive hashtag for yourself.
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Post by theatreian on Jul 31, 2019 21:16:47 GMT
Stage door in this phone infested world can be rather daunting and probably the last thing you want after a performance. While I have waited several times at different stage doors I entirely see why someone would not want to come out and face the barrage of phones and who knows what else. There are always several who have not even seen the show too. Hope Sheridan stays well and positive.
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