|
|
Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2019 9:09:23 GMT
Hopefully they'll offer rush/day tickets for this (I don't think row A has been put on sale yet) - I have wonderful memories of the 1991 Palladium production, but won't pay full price for this just to relive my youth. Ha, I might be mad, but I have already coughed up to re-live my youth three times. Ditto re 1991 - that production was sensational and along with Starlight Express really sparked and shaped my teenage love for musical theatre. |
|
1,046 posts
|
Post by jgblunners on Mar 1, 2019 9:09:57 GMT
I'm oddly excited by this. While I would really have preferred someone with a bigger voice, we know that Sheridan can sing well so it could have been much worse in that regard. She certainly has the charisma to be very engaging in the role, so it'll be interesting to see how she does. What does concern me, though, is the 'comedic changes' mentioned. The narrator is not meant to be gurning her way through the show and I think that Sheridan is a talented enough comic actress to bring a fair amount of comedy to the role in its standard version. If Laurence Connor pushes her too far it could ruin the balance of the show.
|
|
2,677 posts
|
Post by viserys on Mar 1, 2019 9:16:30 GMT
Obviously it was my comment that was deleted. Can we only say positive things about performers and musicals now? People must must realise when talking about casting we are not talking about the actual person but the suitability for the role and often the role that’s been played by a certain type, size, colour, singing style and voice, look, tone, height, personality for 30 years. Sheriden is very talented and she was great in Funny Girl - but we have the right to say that she isn’t the right match for the Narrator in a show we’ve all seen dozens of times (or have even been in). I’m all for not being nasty or hurtful but to white wash any slightly negative comments is a dangerous alley to go down. None of the posts that questioned her singing style/voice was deleted. But her size, which you bitched about, has absolutely nothing to do with whether she can play the role or not, so give it a rest. |
|
|
|
Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2019 9:24:19 GMT
Hopefully they'll offer rush/day tickets for this (I don't think row A has been put on sale yet) - I have wonderful memories of the 1991 Palladium production, but won't pay full price for this just to relive my youth. Ha, I might be mad, but I have already coughed up to re-live my youth three times. Ditto re 1991 - that production was sensational and along with Starlight Express really sparked and shaped my teenage love for musical theatre. Haha, to be honest I did almost buy a preview ticket for row B in the stalls a few weeks ago at a "reasonable" £75. I'm in London in July to see Les Mis revolve one last time, and I felt I owed it to the 12-year-old me to see Joseph and Les Mis on the same day. But in the end I decided to try and get Hamilton tickets when they go on sale, as I've still not seen it. And I'd also like to see Come From Away and Waitress when I'm there. So I reckon I'll just leave a few slots free, and see what day seats are available at the time.
So yeah I'm full of sh*t, as it's more to do with my availability than refusing to pay to see this.
|
|
|
|
Post by jaqs on Mar 1, 2019 9:28:35 GMT
I just can't see the appeal of the role for her, it is a tough sing and a lot of work and the limelight is always taken by Joseph and the Pharaoh. I get that a ten week run is appealing but she ought to be enough of a name to negotiate a three month run in something that suits her better. Coming off the dreadful Cleaning up series and cancelled/postponed tour, I really hope she starts making better work choices.
|
|
|
|
Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2019 9:34:12 GMT
Done a bit of my seating plan geekery this morning (I can never resist) and the premium sections have expanded with top price non premium being pushed to the peripheries of the Stalls and Circle.
So the Producers clearly feel SS is gonna be a big draw!
|
|
|
|
Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2019 9:35:03 GMT
Obviously it was my comment that was deleted. Can we only say positive things about performers and musicals now? People must must realise when talking about casting we are not talking about the actual person but the suitability for the role and often the role that’s been played by a certain type, size, colour, singing style and voice, look, tone, height, personality for 30 years. Sheriden is very talented and she was great in Funny Girl - but we have the right to say that she isn’t the right match for the Narrator in a show we’ve all seen dozens of times (or have even been in). I’m all for not being nasty or hurtful but to white wash any slightly negative comments is a dangerous alley to go down. None of the posts that questioned her singing style/voice was deleted. But her size, which you bitched about, has absolutely nothing to do with whether she can play the role or not, so give it a rest. I thankfully missed the posts in question, but I can vividly imagine. Perfectly fine to say 'does Sheridan have the voice for this/is she the right style' (any show not just this one) not ok to say she's 'too fat' to be the narrator or whatever joyous comment was put here. Anyway I love me some Sheridan, I have no reason to think she won't sing the socks off this and be perfectly adorable. I just curse the casting gods for making me want to spend money on it now. |
|
|
|
Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2019 9:36:26 GMT
Ha, I might be mad, but I have already coughed up to re-live my youth three times. Ditto re 1991 - that production was sensational and along with Starlight Express really sparked and shaped my teenage love for musical theatre. Haha, to be honest I did almost buy a preview ticket for row B in the stalls a few weeks ago at a "reasonable" £75. I'm in London in July to see Les Mis revolve one last time, and I felt I owed it to the 12-year-old me to see Joseph and Les Mis on the same day. But in the end I decided to try and get Hamilton tickets when they go on sale, as I've still not seen it. And I'd also like to see Come From Away and Waitress when I'm there. So I reckon I'll just leave a few slots free, and see what day seats are available at the time.
So yeah I'm full of sh*t, as it's more to do with my availability than refusing to pay to see this.
Haha, I hear you :-) I also went for front Stalls "reasonable" £75. I say do it - the Les Mis revolve and Joseph in the same day - fabulous! Hamilton's gonna be around for a while.... |
|
|
|
Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2019 9:48:08 GMT
Haha, to be honest I did almost buy a preview ticket for row B in the stalls a few weeks ago at a "reasonable" £75. I'm in London in July to see Les Mis revolve one last time, and I felt I owed it to the 12-year-old me to see Joseph and Les Mis on the same day. But in the end I decided to try and get Hamilton tickets when they go on sale, as I've still not seen it. And I'd also like to see Come From Away and Waitress when I'm there. So I reckon I'll just leave a few slots free, and see what day seats are available at the time.
So yeah I'm full of sh*t, as it's more to do with my availability than refusing to pay to see this.
Haha, I hear you :-) I also went for front Stalls "reasonable" £75. I say do it - the Les Mis revolve and Joseph in the same day - fabulous! Hamilton's gonna be around for a while.... That's true. I'll go and review my schedule now. 
Regarding the increase in premium seats, if they are paying Sheridan as much as has been suggested here, I suspect there is more pressure on them now. And yes, they must think they can sustain that with her name attached.
|
|
4,361 posts
|
Post by shady23 on Mar 1, 2019 10:36:33 GMT
Theatre is very very expensive.
A lot of people want to see a "name" if they are paying these premium prices. That is the way it is!
Sheridan is a huge star and people will pay big prices to see her. She may not win every award going for her singing but what she will bring will be lots of warmth, lots of likability and character and it will be a really enjoyable watch I am sure.
|
|
3,426 posts
|
Post by ceebee on Mar 1, 2019 10:38:33 GMT
I've never seen Sheridan Smith live, but I think this is pretty perfect casting. I'm happy I took the plunge on three ten quid tickets on day one, as this show is now going to sell in high numbers at high prices. And they could have had Frank Bruno as the narrator (you know what I mean?) and I still would have paid to see this show, partly for nostalgia and mainly for my two daughters who absolutely love the soundtrack and blu-ray. It's a welcome relief from the tedium of Harry Potter and the Azoner of Priskoban.
|
|
|
|
Post by iamamazing on Mar 1, 2019 10:45:10 GMT
Love Sheridan I can’t wait for this I can see them really star casting this which I will brill. I see Them announcing Jason donanvon and phero next 😊 whoever gets cast in this will be fantastic im looking forward to this 😊😊😊 it’s one of my fav Lloyd Webber shows 😊
|
|
19,661 posts
|
Post by BurlyBeaR on Mar 1, 2019 11:11:44 GMT
Obviously it was my comment that was deleted. Can we only say positive things about performers and musicals now? People must must realise when talking about casting we are not talking about the actual person but the suitability for the role and often the role that’s been played by a certain type, size, colour, singing style and voice, look, tone, height, personality for 30 years. Sheriden is very talented and she was great in Funny Girl - but we have the right to say that she isn’t the right match for the Narrator in a show we’ve all seen dozens of times (or have even been in). I’m all for not being nasty or hurtful but to white wash any slightly negative comments is a dangerous alley to go down. Rule 5 in case you didn’t follow my advice to read it: 5. Be respectful of theatre performers and creatives. Criticism of their work is allowed but hurtful comments on personal appearance, family or other matters deemed "private" is not. What happens in casting is nothing to do with what we’re doing here, and from your description is not something we would want to copy. That still leaves massive scope for discussion. For the various people we have had ‘interactions’ with in private about our stance on this, whether you agree with the rule is irrelevant. It is how we’ve decided to do things here. Now can we move the discussion on please. |
|
1,929 posts
|
Post by LaLuPone on Mar 1, 2019 11:59:57 GMT
I’m still not sure if I think Sheridan is the best person for the job but I am a huge fan of her in general so I will be going. My mum saw the Palladium production with Schofield and Hateley in the 90s so I’m sure I’ll be able to drag her along for the nostalgia factor. I’m sure she’ll come a lot more willingly if Jason Donavon truly is involved!
I’m thinking of booking Row T stalls for £55, I think it seems a fair price if this is indeed going to be a big production, and from looking on seatplan, it doesn’t look like a huge amount of the stage is cut off from here?
|
|
19,661 posts
|
Post by BurlyBeaR on Mar 1, 2019 12:07:14 GMT
I agree with the poster upthread that she is very charismatic on stage and that this compensated for a voice which isn’t that remarkable. Given that this is sung through I might be concerned. Not that it will make any difference, she’ll sell loads of tix.
I watched the first 10 mins of the Donny Osmond version the other day on Netflix. I’m afraid I couldn’t get any further than that 😐
|
|
|
|
Post by danb on Mar 1, 2019 12:13:27 GMT
I just wanted to be thrilled and moved by a voice as good as Linzi’s. This is not that voice.
|
|
|
|
Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2019 12:22:10 GMT
Haha, I hear you :-) I also went for front Stalls "reasonable" £75. I say do it - the Les Mis revolve and Joseph in the same day - fabulous! Hamilton's gonna be around for a while.... if they are paying Sheridan as much as has been suggested here. Curious to know what amount has been suggested here? |
|
1,210 posts
|
Post by musicalmarge on Mar 1, 2019 12:23:00 GMT
When will Jason be announced? I hope it is him!
|
|
|
|
Post by danb on Mar 1, 2019 12:25:52 GMT
Will David Easter be Jacob then?
|
|
|
|
Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2019 12:29:13 GMT
Obviously it was my comment that was deleted. snipRule 5 in case you didn’t follow my advice to read it: 5. Be respectful of theatre performers and creatives. Criticism of their work is allowed but hurtful comments on personal appearance, family or other matters deemed "private" is not. What happens in casting is nothing to do with what we’re doing here, and from your description is not something we would want to copy. That still leaves massive scope for discussion. On the subject of casting. If anyone has had any personal issues with casting, or who knows of someone who has (not just 'stories'), then the Casting Director's Guild has a code of conduct which may well have been broken. Contacting them or Equity will help to put a stop to this and, as we have seen recently with Weinstein, Spacey et al, breaking that silence can help to knock down the whole edifice.
www.thestage.co.uk/news/2018/actors-report-being-stripped-weighed-and-body-shamed-at-auditions/
|
|
629 posts
|
Post by christya on Mar 1, 2019 12:42:15 GMT
Oh, no. I was hoping the Narrator would be someone who could change my mind about going to see this, as it's an old favourite of mine. But I've never heard Sheridan Smith sing without either wincing or being just vaguely disappointed. Her voice just doesn't float my boat. Nothing personal, if it was spoken instead of sung I'd say she'd be great - but I want a beautiful voice for this.
|
|
3,057 posts
|
Post by ali973 on Mar 1, 2019 12:56:04 GMT
Sheridan Smith will white-splain this story of a bunch of brown people from the Bible.
|
|
|
|
Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2019 12:56:42 GMT
if they are paying Sheridan as much as has been suggested here. Curious to know what amount has been suggested here? No amount has been quoted, but I think someone mentioned she's getting a seven figure sum, and one of the biggest weekly salaries in West End history. |
|
|
|
Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2019 13:00:17 GMT
Curious to know what amount has been suggested here? No amount has been quoted, but I think someone mentioned she's getting a seven figure sum, and one of the biggest weekly salaries in West End history. Oh okay. That explains the really high ticket prices. If that is true, then is it more likely she will be the only name. Would an 11 week run justify a similar wage for a second name? |
|
|
|
Post by jaqs on Mar 1, 2019 14:23:17 GMT
I just wanted to be thrilled and moved by a voice as good as Linzi’s. This is not that voice. But nobody's is - that's the whole appeal of Ms H. Same as Liza, Karen Carpenter, Dolly Parton and a very few others. Voices that are just totally unique and amazing in a whole different league to anyone else's. Dolly as the narrator would have had me reaching for the premium seats. |
|
