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Post by Nelly on May 29, 2019 9:47:03 GMT
Sound design is not my thing at all.Any tech experts on the board able to explain why there may be such big sound issues in a stadium setting for the Spice Girls? The main element is that none of the stadia they are playing in are designed primarily or around having anything other than sporting events held in them. It's not just been an issue for The Spice Girls, numerous tours have suffered with it. The problem is, is how you balance it out. You'll notice if you've ever been to a concert in a stadium that there are often towers of speakers towards the 'back' of the pitch. These are referred to as 'delays' and is designed to offset the delay of what you're seeing happen on stage/on a screen and the sound reaching the back of the stadium.
I'd be interested to see a concert at the new Tottenham Hotspur Stadium as I beleive that's been designed from scratch to be fanatasitc for concert accoustics as well as sporting events.
It's a really difficult thing to get right and it really has to do with where you're sitting/standing. Even the Royal Albert Hall really suffered until they put the 'mushrooms' in the roof and even now the sound there isn't great a lot of the time.
Hope this explains a bit? Sorry for the ramble.
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Post by BurlyBeaR on May 29, 2019 13:24:06 GMT
My experience of stadium gigs is that the only thing you really see or hear well are the chip scoffing, beer swilling louts in your immediate vicinity. What’s happening on stage is so far removed as to be inconsequential.
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Post by daisy24601 on May 29, 2019 17:06:26 GMT
Can barely hear it from about 2 metres away Blimey, you can't even tell what song it is at times! I like that they're wearing their Wannabe video outfits, nice touch. |
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Post by TallPaul on May 29, 2019 17:18:37 GMT
Yes, the only voice that can be clearly heard is the one belonging to the bloke doing the filming (or the bloke standing close by)!
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Post by danb on May 29, 2019 18:21:14 GMT
Yes, the only voice that can be clearly heard is the one belonging to the bloke doing the filming (or the bloke standing close by)! Yeah sorry 😂 |
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Post by xanady on May 30, 2019 7:41:58 GMT
^Nelly,thank you for these comments.It’s a strange one...remember seeing Michael Jackson at the old Wembley and the Capital Summertime Ball with my daughter at the new Wembley and no problems with sound standing on the pitch.Eminem at the new Wembley a few years ago was poor in terms of sound and we were in the stands.
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Post by Nelly on May 30, 2019 8:14:08 GMT
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Post by ptwest on Jun 2, 2019 14:04:50 GMT
The sound was generally fine at Manchester last night from up in the stands. Which was a mixed blessing - great when playing the hits, not so great when listening to the frankly embarrassingly bad stage banter. At one point it got so pantomimey i wondered if they were going to split the audience into two to see who was the loudest. Also, Mel B needs to stop trying so hard to be outrageous -saying a few swear words just made her look like a toddler trying to shock.
Overall a good concert though, I cant imagine a Spice Girls concert being any better than that from which you can draw your own conclusion! Technically very impressive, particularly the flashing wristbands. My wife, who was much more the target audience, absolutely loved it, as did most of the women around us. Not many men at this one!
Very interesting to note in the BBC article that the sound might be less of an issue that its been made out to be, fueled by the press and social media. Hard to know what to believe really.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2019 16:44:53 GMT
The explanation about the stadium acoustics and where the girls stood does make sense. But also remember a couple of the girl's weren't particularly good vocalists, one was good and the other okay and they are all over 20 years older now and some probably haven't sung in a long time.
Also the fanbase is older whilst in the late 1990's they would have just screamed and been excited to see the girls live, now they are probably more reflective and want to listen more.
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Post by xanady on Jun 3, 2019 23:43:22 GMT
Just back from the concert and have to say it was amazing.We picked up side stage tickets with a wonderful view for a great price.Sound quality was superb throughout.Heard everything including the banter between the girls which was really funny.Mel B has a potty mouth! Jess Glynne was great and the Ricoh Arena warmed to her.It is not a big venue at all.
The dancers in the show were terrific and a lot of the staging had a very theatrical feel to it.One beautiful dance routine on a costume change had a feel of Bourne’s ‘Swan Lake’ about it.Costumes were breathtaking.Audience about 95% women.Quite funny how all the toilets were for the girls and the guys had to use portaloos it seemed.
Concert had a very joyous and celebratory feel about it.Some very emotional moments such as ‘Mama’ and ‘Viva Forever’,and the harmonies were strong all night. Mel C anchors the whole thing with her wonderful voice.
Have seen some of the great musical legends in the past such as MJ,the Stones,McCartney,etc etc and this was right up there.
Really sad for the Dublin and Cardiff fans who have posted videos on YT and all you can hear is a kind of echoing reverb like a constant wall of noise.Terrible! My friend saw the Manchester concert the other night and said the sound was terrific.
A five star concert!
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Post by Mark on Jun 6, 2019 22:31:10 GMT
Pretty much everything was great tonight in Sunderland - the lighting, the staging, the set, the costumes, the dancers, the dancing. BUT THE SOUND?!? Could.. Not.. Hear... A ...Word... What a let down. The songs sounded better in "Viva Forever" and that's saying something!
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Post by xanady on Jun 6, 2019 22:40:36 GMT
Gosh,more sound issues?We were at Coventry in the stands and it was perfect,but it is a small venue compared to some of the venues.Main complaints in Cov were about long queues to get in,over-crowding on the pitch and two hour delays to exit car parks.
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Post by Mark on Jun 6, 2019 22:50:53 GMT
Oh, the pitch was way too overcrowded. I've ruled out ever doing standing again at a stadium concert sadly. I worked the Take That concerts at Wembley about 10 years back and there seemed to be plenty of room but tonight was like sardines. I have a feeling the stands may have been the best place to be, because from the pitch standing there was next to no vocals.
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Post by xanady on Jun 6, 2019 22:56:55 GMT
Mark,it is a real shame because as you say everything else is terrific.The show itself as a spectacle is incredible,but people who have shelled out a fortune do want to hear the songs and the banter between the girls! It is simply not good enough,imo!
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Post by Mark on Jun 6, 2019 23:02:55 GMT
Absolutely! I don't go to many concerts but year before last went to Steps and Celine Dion and the sound was wonderful. I don't know how to describe it tonight other that just one big echo. Just didn't feel in any way loud enough.
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Post by shady23 on Jun 7, 2019 0:12:07 GMT
I was in the back stand and had no problems with the sound at all. Sounded perfect to me. Oh, the pitch was way too overcrowded. I've ruled out ever doing standing again at a stadium concert sadly. I worked the Take That concerts at Wembley about 10 years back and there seemed to be plenty of room but tonight was like sardines. I have a feeling the stands may have been the best place to be, because from the pitch standing there was next to no vocals. I think the problem was they were herding everyone to one side where the other side had far more space and there was not the room to move around. I'm not a fan of standing at these kind of gigs, unless you are prepared to get there very early for a good view (and I am not prepared to anymore) then don't bother. I will have my reserved seat, thanks. Seating/standing apart, I've not seen the Spice Girls in the region since they aged at the Metro Radio party in the 90s, I loved the show. Such a great and friendly atmosphere where I was. Great mix of songs and great staging. I did wonder if Take That's Kim Gavin was involved as the staging was similar in many ways to Take That's recent tours, they have a globe on their current tour too 😉 |
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Post by ptwest on Jun 7, 2019 4:18:47 GMT
Absolutely! I don't go to many concerts but year before last went to Steps and Celine Dion and the sound was wonderful. I don't know how to describe it tonight other that just one big echo. Just didn't feel in any way loud enough. The sound must have been better than this in Manchester, apart from the first time they spoke when they were drowned out by the crowd, but can totally agree with it being too quiet. It was loud enough to hear and you could hear the vocals, but also the type of volume that you could almost drift away from if you weren’t paying full attention. It would appear that this is either a conscious choice by the sound engineers or the rules on volume and licensing have got stricter. Seeing Muse this weekend in the same venue, it will be interesting to compare the sound quality. |
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Post by Mark on Jun 7, 2019 8:07:05 GMT
I’ve watched some videos back and yes, sounds great from the stands. Even more disappointed now, although we were so penned in by the time it started I doubt we’d of got moved.
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Post by shady23 on Jun 7, 2019 11:55:46 GMT
I suppose they had those two towers towards at the back with the speakers on which really helped for us in the stands. Sorry you had a bad experience.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2019 10:08:15 GMT
Does anyone here know what Wembley’s policy on DSLR cameras is? I can’t find any info online.
Thank you.
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Post by dip on Jun 15, 2019 20:45:28 GMT
I went with my girlfriend, who grew up on their music. I only really had a passing interest but it was a brilliant show. Absolutely no issues with sound
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Post by NeilVHughes on Jun 15, 2019 21:40:06 GMT
Had the pleasure of sharing my tube ride to Kilburn on the Spice Tube, the atmosphere was infectious.
Couldn’t help but wonder which Spice Girl theatremonkey.com went as, as fancy dress appeared to be mandatory.
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Post by xanady on Jun 15, 2019 22:01:12 GMT
Great memories of this show a few weeks ago.I keep playing the Greatest Hits CD.Hope they play more gigs in the future.
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Post by FrontrowverPaul on Jun 16, 2019 8:41:08 GMT
I'm currently watching the Coventry gig on You Tube. Excellent quality and great to see. I didn't attend and understand there's not going to be an official DVD from the tour.
Plaudits to "Niki" for getting it filmed so well and uploaded, suspect it will be removed before long so watch it while you can !
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Post by anthony40 on Jun 16, 2019 14:41:35 GMT
So I am only one stop away on the Metropolitan Line from Wembley so took myself off on Friday night to buy myself a ticket. I was quoted £146.00!
Needless to say I put my Credit Card back into my wallet and put my wallet back intent back pocket and walked away.
(Genuinely) I hope that everyone had a great time but that price is out of my price range and I went home and zigga-ziggiad at home alone and watched Madonna on Graham Norton
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