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Post by andrew on Nov 23, 2018 16:26:33 GMT
Does anyone happen to have a Thursday night ticket they may wish to swap for a Friday?
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Post by anita on Nov 28, 2018 10:21:00 GMT
Just had email. 3 new songs !!!
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Post by fluxcapacitor on Nov 29, 2018 16:28:22 GMT
Hi everyone. First time poster, long time lurker!
I have a ticket for tomorrow night's performance of Unmasked but may no longer be able to attend (a shame as I was really looking forward to it!)
Is anyone here looking for a ticket? £25 face value, or nearest offer - send me a personal message.
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Post by westendcub on Nov 29, 2018 18:32:19 GMT
I’m at this workshop tonight, looking forward to it!!
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Post by westendcub on Nov 29, 2018 23:40:21 GMT
What an incredible evening, I don’t want to spoil too much or share any of the secrets (well stuff we know is going to happen getting confirmed!!)..
The cast are a wonder, to be so close to these West-End stars was a marvel, what voices to hear those brilliant songs!
So I’m not giving too much away but on arrival, I got a beer and then found a spot and found myself by Richard Curtis to then be beside Sir Andrew Lloyd Webber himself!!
He also came out at the end, a piano was brought out and wow what was played moved me (I’m excited for the next ALW chapter!).
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Post by scarpia on Nov 30, 2018 0:23:41 GMT
ALW did ask for feedback at the end, and I have no idea if the powers that be read this board, but in case they do - then my thoughts are in the spoilers below. Obviously don't read the spoilers section if you don't want this, er, spoiled. {Spoiler - click to view}Basically the structure and format of this is very, very similar to Side by Side by Sondheim, especially the recent production of that that the BBC put on at the Royal Festival Hall earlier this year. Which isn’t a bad idea. And the cast were top-rate (though some unfortunate cracks by a couple).
I like ALW’s ‘new’ self-deprecating persona – he’s been projecting that well since the How do you solve a problem like Maria? Days, and it’s a lot more relatable than the ALW of, say, 30 years ago. The videos are nice, but I think they need to go way more into his creative process like Sondheim’s videos do in Side by Side. Otherwise they tend to be a collection of soundbites that we have heard time and time and time again (e.g. ‘all the elements must coalesce’, ‘this song used to be this song about Kansas’ etc). These are stories that have been tried and tested for years, and I reckon audience members going into this will have some familiarity with them – particularly if the show is being branded on the basis of his memoir that has them all anyway.
I get the logic of saving up all the Phantom stuff until the end, but it doesn’t work and I don’t think it will work for the intended American audience who knows him primarily for that. I felt they were trying to squeeze too much Phantom stuff in at the end, and maybe it should be peppered throughout the show.
The show as it stands is too long; it needs to be trimmed by about 45 minutes. So here’s what I would cut out (bearing in mind that this is meant for American audiences):
• Tell Me on a Sunday stuff, save for the title song and Unexpected Song • Maybe one of the Phantom songs, perhaps Wishing • ALL the Richard Curtis stuff – I’m sorry, but it wasn’t really funny and added nothing. The beginning song was dire. Generally every Curtis song was the same laboured joke that went on and on and on. Especially that one at the end about the song we didn’t really want to hear. • Everything from Starlight – Germans love it, Americans don’t. • Endless musings about his undying love for Love Never Dies – I know why this is in there, ALW has obviously got a vested interest in trying to foist this upon America. It’s obvious he wants this to be big over there, but it’s not ever going to be (and it won’t ever be here either). Maybe keep the title song in the ‘love songs’ section but leave it at that. ALW said in the video that he acknowledged finally that people didn’t think a sequel to Phantom was a good idea, but then attributed that only to critics. I don’t know if he’s being disingenuous or simply ignorant. Many audience members think that too. It also came across as bizarre at the end when they did the video retrospective, and then skipped past EVERYTHING after Sunset until LND (so that skips at least 3 shows!). This is particularly odd since even the Woman in White has hit Broadway; LND never has. Neither is a good show. I wonder if ALW acknowledged the flaws of the latter in the sense that he talked about how crucial a good story is straight after the LND title song was performed, and explained that a score without a good story isn’t enough. Is this finally a tacit admission that the plot for Love Never Dies is ridiculous?
What to keep and/or do more of:
• Stuff like ALW’s thoughts on the Rachmaninov Paganini variation and where he wants to position himself in musical history • Stories about past funny events, e.g. the grand piano tale • Getting to know the performers more – maybe they can share backstage stories, or meetings with ALW when working on his shows • I’d put in ‘With One Look’, it’s one of his best tunes and Sunset is popular enough to have been on Broadway twice. • It’s weird to have the full title song from Phantom, but then to shorten almost everything from Evita. Evita is big in the States. They deserve a full Buenos Aires and/or Rainbow High, not snippets of each.
What was entirely missing and was needed:
• Talks about his collaborations with lyricists and directors (and even producers, designers etc). There was precious little mention of people like Tim Rice, Hal Prince, and Cameron Mackintosh here – despite saying briefly at the end that musicals are collaborative. • A good director. Sorry, but what exactly did Laurence Connor contribute here?
Overall it was enjoyable, but to make this an engaging, memorable and amazing experience rather than yet another concert medley, more is needed (but maybe less of Curtis…).
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Post by Oleanna on Nov 30, 2018 0:33:50 GMT
ALW did ask for feedback at the end, and I have no idea if the powers that be read this board, but in case they do - then my thoughts are in the spoilers below. Obviously don't read the spoilers section if you don't want this, er, spoiled. {Spoiler - click to view}Basically the structure and format of this is very, very similar to Side by Side by Sondheim, especially the recent production of that that the BBC put on at the Royal Festival Hall earlier this year. Which isn’t a bad idea. And the cast were top-rate (though some unfortunate cracks by a couple).
I like ALW’s ‘new’ self-deprecating persona – he’s been projecting that well since the How do you solve a problem like Maria? Days, and it’s a lot more relatable than the ALW of, say, 30 years ago. The videos are nice, but I think they need to go way more into his creative process like Sondheim’s videos do in Side by Side. Otherwise they tend to be a collection of soundbites that we have heard time and time and time again (e.g. ‘all the elements must coalesce’, ‘this song used to be this song about Kansas’ etc). These are stories that have been tried and tested for years, and I reckon audience members going into this will have some familiarity with them – particularly if the show is being branded on the basis of his memoir that has them all anyway.
I get the logic of saving up all the Phantom stuff until the end, but it doesn’t work and I don’t think it will work for the intended American audience who knows him primarily for that. I felt they were trying to squeeze too much Phantom stuff in at the end, and maybe it should be peppered throughout the show.
The show as it stands is too long; it needs to be trimmed by about 45 minutes. So here’s what I would cut out (bearing in mind that this is meant for American audiences):
• Tell Me on a Sunday stuff, save for the title song and Unexpected Song • Maybe one of the Phantom songs, perhaps Wishing • ALL the Richard Curtis stuff – I’m sorry, but it wasn’t really funny and added nothing. The beginning song was dire. Generally every Curtis song was the same laboured joke that went on and on and on. Especially that one at the end about the song we didn’t really want to hear. • Everything from Starlight – Germans love it, Americans don’t. • Endless musings about his undying love for Love Never Dies – I know why this is in there, ALW has obviously got a vested interest in trying to foist this upon America. It’s obvious he wants this to be big over there, but it’s not ever going to be (and it won’t ever be here either). Maybe keep the title song in the ‘love songs’ section but leave it at that. ALW said in the video that he acknowledged finally that people didn’t think a sequel to Phantom was a good idea, but then attributed that only to critics. I don’t know if he’s being disingenuous or simply ignorant. Many audience members think that too. It also came across as bizarre at the end when they did the video retrospective, and then skipped past EVERYTHING after Sunset until LND (so that skips at least 3 shows!). This is particularly odd since even the Woman in White has hit Broadway; LND never has. Neither is a good show. I wonder if ALW acknowledged the flaws of the latter in the sense that he talked about how crucial a good story is straight after the LND title song was performed, and explained that a score without a good story isn’t enough. Is this finally a tacit admission that the plot for Love Never Dies is ridiculous?
What to keep and/or do more of:
• Stuff like ALW’s thoughts on the Rachmaninov Paganini variation and where he wants to position himself in musical history • Stories about past funny events, e.g. the grand piano tale • Getting to know the performers more – maybe they can share backstage stories, or meetings with ALW when working on his shows • I’d put in ‘With One Look’, it’s one of his best tunes and Sunset is popular enough to have been on Broadway twice. • It’s weird to have the full title song from Phantom, but then to shorten almost everything from Evita. Evita is big in the States. They deserve a full Buenos Aires and/or Rainbow High, not snippets of each.
What was entirely missing and was needed:
• Talks about his collaborations with lyricists and directors (and even producers, designers etc). There was precious little mention of people like Tim Rice, Hal Prince, and Cameron Mackintosh here – despite saying briefly at the end that musicals are collaborative. • A good director. Sorry, but what exactly did Laurence Connor contribute here?
Overall it was enjoyable, but to make this an engaging, memorable and amazing experience rather than yet another concert medley, more is needed (but maybe less of Curtis…).
Welcome to the board, Scarpia - love the username! And in quoting you, I inadvertently saw some of the spoilers I was trying to avoid!
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Post by anita on Nov 30, 2018 10:24:01 GMT
I'm going tonight. Haven't read the spoilers above.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2018 11:00:22 GMT
Gutted I missed out on tickets for this but enjoying hearing about it!
(Though no doubt if I was there I’d be annoyed at the under-representation of some of my personal faves - Starlight, Aspects, Whistle and Beautiful Game!)
If someone gets a chance and can remember, could a song list be posted?
I am (only very mildly) irritated this is being developed for the USA! Why? ALW is British, he’s more successful here, all his shows premiered here other than JCS and SOR and British creative teams have taken his shows to the world.
Launch it fully in a London I say!
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Post by Stephen on Nov 30, 2018 11:18:47 GMT
In a little confused. Is Lloyd Webber on stage in this? Noticed that he was playing the piano at the OP bar the other day!
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Post by graham on Nov 30, 2018 11:47:02 GMT
I saw this last night, and agree with Scarpia's comments in the spoilers. For a first performance after a very short rehearsal period, I thought this was in good shape with very few issues (albeit it is very simply staged, so only limited room for issues!). It's very much a revue with movement rather than anything choreographed.
In keeping with ALW's first volume of his autobiography, the show only really covers the time up to Phantom's opening, with only a few extracts from later material. The Lord did feature at the end, saying a few words before giving us a piano rendition of the tune from a theme from Cinderella - felt a bit like a cross between something from LND and SoR, but has potential! The rest of his role is in video clips (although last night the VT operator was a bit keen to play the next clip without allowing time for applause from the preceding song!). All very slick.
At 3 hours it was a long show, and there is scope for cutting. I didn't feel the new comic numbers added anything, and were unnecessary in a retrospective revue - some of the humour felt very lame. The switch between clicked tracks and the band were very obvious, and I found it amusing that one of the percussionists digital cymbals didn't appear miked properly, so all I could here (from row C) was a thud when he hit it rather than anything cymbal-like!!
I am puzzled what audience the show will serve, unless it is cast in the US with people with a strong ALW connection - it felt very British, and the workshop cast have strong UK links to ALW's shows but would have no relevance in the US (except Michael Xavie after Sunset with Glenn Close).
But an enjoyable evening!
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Post by Dawnstar on Nov 30, 2018 14:33:35 GMT
3 hours? Goodness, I'm glad I'm going to the matinee tomorrow!
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Post by Andy on Nov 30, 2018 19:08:25 GMT
If someone gets a chance and can remember, could a song list be posted? I’ve tried my best but there were far too many songs to remember so the order is mostly random. {Spoiler - click to view} Superstar Joseph’s Coat Close Every Door Any Dream Will Do Buenos Aires Another Suitcase In Another Hall Don’t Cry For Me Argentina Variations Starlight Express Overture As if You Never Said Goodybe Sunset Boulevard By Jeeves Til I hear You Sing Tell Me on A Sunday Take That Look Off Your Face Love Never Dies Stick it to the Man Amigos Para Siempre Pie Jesu I Don’t Know How to Love Him Gethsemane High Flying Adored Cats Overture The Rum Tum Tugger Skimbleshanks The Railway Cat Mr Mistofelees Memory Unexpected Song Love Changes Everything No Matter What The Phantom of the Opera All I Ask of You Wishing You Were Somehow Here Again Music of the Night
Plus the original comedy songs and ALW playing something from Cinderella.
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Post by scarpia on Nov 30, 2018 20:45:48 GMT
Welcome to the board, Scarpia - love the username! Thanks! I actually used to post here quite a while ago, but then life got in the way and then in the meantime I entirely forgot my log-in... Anyway, I will remember this now!
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Post by distantcousin on Dec 1, 2018 8:39:29 GMT
Attended last night - full review to follow, but as an ALW Geek, last night was nothing short of heaven!!
(AND we had the fortune to be sat directly behind The Lord and Lady LW, AND had Michael and Shakira Caine sat alongside us for the duration. Our minds were a little blown!!!!)
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Post by distantcousin on Dec 1, 2018 8:45:30 GMT
3 hours? Goodness, I'm glad I'm going to the matinee tomorrow! They must have shortened it - we were out at 10 last night.
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Post by Oleanna on Dec 1, 2018 9:19:03 GMT
There was no piano/theme from Cinderella last night, either...
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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2018 12:09:12 GMT
Gutted I missed out on tickets for this but enjoying hearing about it! (Though no doubt if I was there I’d be annoyed at the under-representation of some of my personal faves - Starlight, Aspects, Whistle and Beautiful Game!) If someone gets a chance and can remember, could a song list be posted? I am (only very mildly) irritated this is being developed for the USA! Why? ALW is British, he’s more successful here, all his shows premiered here other than JCS and SOR and British creative teams have taken his shows to the world. Launch it fully in a London I say! Because us Brits appear incapable of buying tickets to musicals that haven’t been tried and tested in the US... or so it would seem. From the comments he’s made over the last few years, he launched SOR in the US because every time he launches something new in London it flops. SOR opened in the US and has now survived in London, which I believe was a deliberate strategy after Stephen Ward flopped.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2018 17:53:11 GMT
I really enjoyed today’s matinee! The Lord himself was there with family.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2018 18:23:17 GMT
Well. Rather like The Lord's back catalogue, it's a hit and miss affair although the person sat next to me clearly loved it. She was whooping and cheering like she was at 'Heathers' and couldn't wait to be the first one to clap after each song. Sometimes before it even ended. The lady on the other side of me was an absolute delight though. Especially as she agreed with me that 'Cats' is a pretty dreadful show.
Some of the singers are good (I'm looking at you John Owen Jones [the sneaky scene stealer of the whole thing], Michael Xavier, Holly Aires and especially Stephen Leask who was glorious) and some were not (oh dear Ben Forster, what went wrong?).
On the plus side, you get Rosanna Hyland giving us some great Evita, Holly Aires stealing 'Any Dream Will Do' from the back, some lovely 'Tell Me On A Sunday' numbers (especially Anna O'Byrne's 'Unexpected Song'), Stephen Leask (fabulous) even making 'The Rum Tum Tugger' entertaining, Tyrone Huntley's hips deserving of a number all to themselves, some great comedy group numbers and The Lord himself entertaining you from video screens above the stage (v. funny actually).
In addition, Ria Jones' warble should get a credit all by itself and I swear it triggered the Richter Scale at some point) and thank The Lord there wasn't any scenery as Ben Forster would have chewed it, spat it out and chewed it again. Both him and Ria obviously believe in the mantra that no gesture is ever too big.
A throughly entertaining show (even if it's clearly directed at Broadway) and the gin is lovely.
As is Emilia Fox who was in the audience. I let her out of the row on the way out. She thanked me and smiled. Watch and learn Sara Kestelman.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2018 18:58:13 GMT
If someone gets a chance and can remember, could a song list be posted? This isn't in order and I may have missed some out and got some singers wrong but here goes... Song about the show (Cast) The Lord Megamix (Cast) Any Dream Will Do (Xavier) Close Every Door (Xavier) Joseph's Coat (Dillon) Jesus Christ Superstar (Huntley) I Don't Know How To Love Him (Dillon) Gethsemane (Forster) Buenos Aires (Hyland) Another Suitcase In Another Hall (Aires) High Flying Adored (JOJ) A New Argentina (Hyland) Don't Cry For Me Argentina (Hyland) By Jeeves (Xavier, Leask, Huntley) Stick It To The Man (Leask) Love Never Dies (O'Byrne) Til I Hear You Sing (JOJ) Take That Look Off Your Face (Dillon) Unexpected Song (O'Byrne) Tell Me On A Sunday (Hyland) Pie Jesu (Aires) Variations 5 (Band) Music Of The Night (JOJ) Phantom of the Opera (O'Byrne, Forster) All I Ask of You (Xavier, Hyland) As If We Never Said Goodbye (Ria) Sunset Boulevard (Xavier) The Rum Tum Tugger (Leask) Skimbleshanks: The Railway Cat (Forster) Mr Mistoffelees (Huntley) Memory (Ria) Macavity (Ria) Amigos Para Siempre (Cast with Sarah Brightman and Jose Carreras on film) Love Changes Everything (JOJ) Last Song song (Cast)
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Post by stagebyte on Dec 1, 2018 19:07:57 GMT
Can’t get there tonight. Have two tickets free to a good thespy home for anyone nearby!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2018 19:20:23 GMT
Can’t get there tonight. Have two tickets free to a good thespy home for anyone nearby! ‘As it’s sold out just quickly call the office and return them?
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Post by stagebyte on Dec 1, 2018 19:21:57 GMT
Tried They told me they don’t accept them
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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2018 19:25:14 GMT
Tried They told me they don’t accept them That’s a shame, as their FAQs clearly advertises how to buy returned tickets. Unless they have too many/you have the physical tickets.
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