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Post by oxfordsimon on Oct 11, 2018 22:43:37 GMT
Bryn Terfel and Kelsey Grammer.
I get the first - but not the second!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2018 23:06:32 GMT
Wow, that's some bizarre casting for Sancho. However I will go see this, it's a beautiful musical.
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Post by musicalmarge on Oct 11, 2018 23:11:09 GMT
i saw this musical on Broadway in 2001 and despised it. It bored me to tears.
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Post by couldileaveyou on Oct 11, 2018 23:12:58 GMT
Ooh we'll see Bryn acting again. Or, hopefully, for the first time.
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Post by oxfordsimon on Oct 11, 2018 23:23:27 GMT
Bryn is a fantastic actor - at least in the right production. I saw him as Hans Sachs in Meistersinger - and he was outstanding. Every word was painted, every movement considered.
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Post by Someone in a tree on Oct 12, 2018 6:46:26 GMT
BT is a terrible actor and I’m not sure if I can cope with another ENO musical, each year the production gets worse and worse
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Post by clair on Oct 12, 2018 6:47:47 GMT
I've been wanting this show to appear for what feels like forever - but a concert version at ENO with their ridiculous water policy and horrible ticket prices?! Just hope it inspires interest in the show so we get a proper production somewhere.
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Post by Someone in a tree on Oct 12, 2018 7:35:08 GMT
I've been wanting this show to appear for what feels like forever - but a concert version at ENO with their ridiculous water policy and horrible ticket prices?! Just hope it inspires interest in the show so we get a proper production somewhere. And not forgetting building the set over the orchestra pit so folk in the not so cheap, cheap seats can’t see half the action |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2018 7:39:27 GMT
I love the score for this show, and I'm sure Bryn'll sing the sh*t out of it, but they'd have to cast someone freakin' incredible as Aldonza for me to consider dealing with ENO's nonsense re: ticket prices and water allowance. Literally the only name I can think of right now that would make me consider it is Kelli O'Hara, and I'm sure she's busy...
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Post by dlevi on Oct 12, 2018 7:40:43 GMT
I've been wanting this show to appear for what feels like forever - but a concert version at ENO with their ridiculous water policy and horrible ticket prices?! Just hope it inspires interest in the show so we get a proper production somewhere. And not forgetting building the set over the orchestra pit so folk in the not so cheap, cheap seats can’t see half the action Hey calm down everyone, sure the ticket prices are going to be high in the stalls, they're high everywhere else in town why shouldn't they be for the ENO? And that water policy has fallen by the wayside. It was there ( and will probably be there again) for Bat Out of Hell and the rock oriented shows because people came with water bottles full of gin and vodka. Why not focus on the fact that La Mancha has a great score and we'll be sure to get a full-throated powerful vocal performance of it? That's good news. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2018 7:45:25 GMT
Look I'm Welsh, I'm genetically predisposed to love Uncle Bryn (but weirdly to despise the other Welsh 'Opera' singer that ENO like)...but really, Kelsey? politics aside (far, far aside) he's a good actor. But erm, singing he was further back in the queue for.
Sigh. I have always wanted to see this one.
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Post by learfan on Oct 12, 2018 9:04:22 GMT
Bryn is a fantastic actor - at least in the right production. I saw him as Hans Sachs in Meistersinger - and he was outstanding. Every word was painted, every movement considered. Every word was painted?! Hilarious, thanks for making me laugh out loud this morning. |
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Post by ali973 on Oct 12, 2018 9:27:37 GMT
Well, I for one hope the negotiations fail.
Kelsey's career must have tanked so hard. He just keeps on playing these sidekick characters, and to be honest I'm very uncomfortable seeing him tackle these roles for a variety of reasons. Also, he doesn't really read as "Sancho".
The most recent major production starred Brian Stokes Mitchell who (at the time) had a marvelous voice and oozed charisma. This Bryan is a good singer but he's dull dull dull.
I'm praying for an Aldonza/Dulcinea that can rescue this and by God I hope it's not a cookie cutter blonde. Let's get Lesli Margherita in.
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Post by Mr Snow on Oct 12, 2018 9:58:43 GMT
And that water policy has fallen by the wayside. It was there ( and will probably be there again) for Bat Out of Hell and the rock oriented shows because people came with water bottles full of gin and vodka. Why that sounds like Rockist! Suddenly the wisdom of Avenue Q comes back to me, "Everyone's a little bit rockist...". Well I'm proud to say, I AM! |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2018 10:18:04 GMT
And that water policy has fallen by the wayside. It was there ( and will probably be there again) for Bat Out of Hell and the rock oriented shows because people came with water bottles full of gin and vodka. Why not focus on the fact that La Mancha has a great score and we'll be sure to get a full-throated powerful vocal performance of it? That's good news. Is this true? 'Cos I don't know that Chess counts as a rock-oriented show really, and last I heard from the horse's mouth, they'd extended the water policy to every single show ever. Indeed, we have a pretty current thread about it here: theatreboard.co.uk/thread/5486/bottles-water-eno-ban-time Though admittedly it doesn't sound like anyone in that thread has necessarily been to the Coliseum recently, so if they have dropped the water ban, they've done it very recently and very quietly. Which would be weird in itself; given how unpopular it was, you'd think they'd want to let people know they've reversed an unpopular decision. |
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Post by n1david on Oct 12, 2018 10:38:25 GMT
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Post by oxfordsimon on Oct 12, 2018 12:07:51 GMT
Bryn is a fantastic actor - at least in the right production. I saw him as Hans Sachs in Meistersinger - and he was outstanding. Every word was painted, every movement considered. Every word was painted?! Hilarious, thanks for making me laugh out loud this morning. Having followed Terfel's career for 30 years, I stand by my opinion that he is a great actor. Perhaps he is better suited to the operatic stage - rather than musicals. But his Hans Sachs was truly outstanding. It was a nuanced and intelligent interpretation of a tricky role. He is not one of the old school opera stars who just stands and delivers as loudly as possible. He inhabited the role of Sachs completely. |
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Post by QueerTheatre on Oct 12, 2018 13:55:44 GMT
Having seen him many many times myself too... even at the ENO in a musical, so the most comparable role to this... the man can't act for toffee!
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Post by dlevi on Oct 12, 2018 14:50:56 GMT
Though admittedly it doesn't sound like anyone in that thread has necessarily been to the Coliseum recently, so if they have dropped the water ban, they've done it very recently and very quietly. Which would be weird in itself; given how unpopular it was, you'd think they'd want to let people know they've reversed an unpopular decision. I had it on pretty good authority from someone rather high up at the ENO. I was there recently seeing Salome and didn't notice any confiscation going on, but that doesn't mean it wasn't happening. |
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Post by learfan on Oct 12, 2018 16:41:13 GMT
Hope this comes about, the show has been on my list for ages. Mooted cast is intriguing.
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Post by oxfordsimon on Oct 12, 2018 16:53:16 GMT
Even with a big name cast, I think this is the wrong choice to sell out more than a handful of dates.
It is a bizarre piece in terms of book. The score is patchy - at best. It has never achieved significant success in the UK - just over 250 performances in 1968 and no major revival since that I can find.
It would not be on my list of things to revive in such a way.
I must admit I only know it from the bizarre recording with Domingo and Mandy Patinkin... so perhaps that has coloured my enjoyment of the piece. But I can think of far better use of that big theatre than Man of La Mancha in concert.
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Post by n1david on Nov 15, 2018 23:16:59 GMT
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Post by lou105 on Nov 16, 2018 6:59:33 GMT
So have things changed since mid October when Baz had Kelsey Grammer down for Sancho Panza opposite Bryn Terfel?!
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Post by n1david on Nov 16, 2018 8:37:57 GMT
Now on the ENO website and it definitely looks like Bryn Terfel is no longer attached to this, unless he is part of the casting to be announced later: www.eno.org/whats-on/man-of-la-mancha/Note that Danielle de Niese is doing 33 performances, "with further star casting for this role to be announced". |
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Post by Someone in a tree on Nov 16, 2018 9:24:26 GMT
Oh gowd. Lonny Pirice is directing. Give me strength.
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