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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2017 3:04:05 GMT
I was joking? Something I do a lot on here and no one seems to get. And if you read back a few pages rather than just put me down, I have been saying consistently that it is a shame people aren't going, and that I hope they put the talented leading ladies in the forefront of the promotion to make the show appeal to more musical theatre fans as well as Gary Barlow fans. I have nothing against the show, and I look forward to seeing it when I do, but the only thing I have ben consistently negative about is their terrible promotional work. Even though I'm not too happy that 'The Girls' are nominated as collective, if they're trying to make this show more of an ensemble performance rather than a leading lady performance, they should advertise it more in that way. I would rather it was advertised more as the great 'female' ensemble piece that it is than sticking Gary Barlow's name on every sort of advertisement. Even if some Gary Barlow fans would go see a show about watching paint dry if his name was on the poster lol Thank you Jesus, someone finally understands! Why are you not involved in the show? Can we get you in there?!
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Post by westendwendy on Mar 7, 2017 7:09:29 GMT
I wonder if they're doing group discounts as a result of the Olivier nomination? Buy one ticket, get another 5 free. That is a disgrace!!! A collective group for best actress? Bad
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2017 8:13:59 GMT
I wonder if they're doing group discounts as a result of the Olivier nomination? Buy one ticket, get another 5 free. That is a disgrace!!! A collective group for best actress? Bad Agree! Jo Riding and Claire Moore are robbed of the chance of a solo nomination. You can't compare what Jo Riding and Debbie Chazen do or Claire Moore and Michelle Dotrice do and put that on an equal footing. If the Olivier committee wanted to promote the cast of The Girls as heavily as they seem to (probably a result of the hundreds of empty seats they have at the beginning of the week) then they should have included a couple of best supporting actress nominations. When Matilda received a group nomination it was because the four actresses involved shared the role so their responsibilities were equal.
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Post by infofreako on Mar 7, 2017 8:45:26 GMT
No one seems to be buying tickets, they gotta get rid of them somehow. you are so disparaging to this show. go and see it for gods sake, then your constant wittering will at least come from some semblance of authority. I've seen it. Its very poor. Do I have your permission to say such bad things about it. After all this is a place of opinions I believe
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2017 10:09:35 GMT
Generally curious, as I haven't seen it yet... but I have heard nothing whatsoever about Ben Hunter's performance, from anyone who has seen the show, yet he has been Olivier nominated. How is he in it? I'm assuming great as he is nominated but why has no one been mentioning him?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2017 10:25:01 GMT
Generally curious, as I haven't seen it yet... but I have heard nothing whatsoever about Ben Hunter's performance, from anyone who has seen the show, yet he has been Olivier nominated. How is he in it? I'm assuming great as he is nominated but why has no one been mentioning him? He is very good actually, I suppose no-one is mentioning him because the show is so heavily weighted towards the female cast (of which one, possibly two could be classed as a lead - hurrumph) that he could possibly be overlooked. When you look at the other nominees in that category, I'd say he's probably on a par with Ian Bartholomew in 'Half A Sixpence' - not a scene stealer like Adam J Bernard in 'Dreamgirls' but a solid part of the show and he gets a good amount of time on stage and moves the action along.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2017 10:27:43 GMT
Generally curious, as I haven't seen it yet... but I have heard nothing whatsoever about Ben Hunter's performance, from anyone who has seen the show, yet he has been Olivier nominated. How is he in it? I'm assuming great as he is nominated but why has no one been mentioning him? He is very good actually, I suppose no-one is mentioning him because the show is so heavily weighted towards the female cast (of which one, possibly two could be classed as a lead - hurrumph) that he could possibly be overlooked. When you look at the other nominees in that category, I'd say he's probably on a par with Ian Bartholomew in 'Half A Sixpence' - not a scene stealer like Adam J Bernard in 'Dreamgirls' but a solid part of the show and he gets a good amount of time on stage and moves the action along. Ah thank you love. Yeah, I get the sense Adam is pretty much the lock in that catagory anyway haha.
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Post by Mark on Mar 7, 2017 10:28:04 GMT
Generally curious, as I haven't seen it yet... but I have heard nothing whatsoever about Ben Hunter's performance, from anyone who has seen the show, yet he has been Olivier nominated. How is he in it? I'm assuming great as he is nominated but why has no one been mentioning him? In the grand scheme of the show, his role is pretty minor. Was surprised to see him nominated not because of his performance but the actual scale of the role.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2017 11:48:39 GMT
In the grand scheme of the show, his role is pretty minor. Was surprised to see him nominated not because of his performance but the actual scale of the role. I felt exactly the same about David Badella in In The Heights
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Post by Mark on Mar 7, 2017 11:55:46 GMT
In the grand scheme of the show, his role is pretty minor. Was surprised to see him nominated not because of his performance but the actual scale of the role. I felt exactly the same about David Badella in In The Heights A good comparison actually.
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Post by cheesy116 on Mar 7, 2017 16:00:30 GMT
Even though I'm not too happy that 'The Girls' are nominated as collective, if they're trying to make this show more of an ensemble performance rather than a leading lady performance, they should advertise it more in that way. I would rather it was advertised more as the great 'female' ensemble piece that it is than sticking Gary Barlow's name on every sort of advertisement. Even if some Gary Barlow fans would go see a show about watching paint dry if his name was on the poster lol Thank you Jesus, someone finally understands! Why are you not involved in the show? Can we get you in there?! (I'm sorry for the long quote but I've no idea how to delete them appropriately they always end up looking completely wrong) Lol thanks Daniel, I wrote that after a few glasses of wine as well! It's such an uplifting female strong show and in this day and age with what's going on in the world, that would be a very good way to advertise it. But Gary Barlow fans will go see anything with his name on it so I'm not surprised. If they're going to nominate The Girls as a collective, then surely the School of Rock kids should get it too as they are the driving force of the show.
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Post by mallardo on Mar 9, 2017 12:06:32 GMT
I saw this last night and enjoyed it but as this is page 65 of the thread I'll just make a few points.
First, re the Olivier Awards it's a shame they've made it a 6 actress thing because I think this is the best role and the best performance I have ever seen from Joanna Riding. Even though she shares the final bow with Claire Moore, Riding is clearly the leading lady and should have been treated that way. Her through line is the show's through line, she is the emotional centre. Her 11 o'clock number, Kilimanjaro, is the best and most powerful moment of the show.
It's a cliché to say that a show has "heart" but this one really does and it's not manufactured. The spirit of the piece is fully captured without being overdone. The cancer plot is expertly handled, never descending into sentimentality. The calendar business is well set up and perfectly developed. The second act works like a charm. It's a very good book.
Almost everyone onstage is a unique character, even the ones who drop in and out. Cliches are avoided. The kids are terrific. Everyone is, with the 6 ladies at the core of things individually and collectively brilliant. But...
What stops The Girls from being a great five star show is the score. If Gary Barlow has original, interesting music in him he's not showing it here. Every song feels generic, not in the lyrics which are often amazing (the above mentioned Kilimanjaro, e.g.) but in the melodic and harmonic content. No song captures the ear. I suppose the fact that these talented actresses are able to make so much of their numbers means that Barlow is doing something right - there are two or three genuine showstoppers. But, for me, at least, their success is all about the performances.
That aside, after some initial resistance, I did finally surrender to The Girls and found myself surprisingly invested in it. It could have been better (alas!) but it's pretty damn good as it stands. I truly hope it runs.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2017 12:39:52 GMT
What stops The Girls from being a great five star show is the score. If Gary Barlow has original, interesting music in him he's not showing it here. Every song feels generic, not in the lyrics which are often amazing (the above mentioned Kilimanjaro, e.g.) but in the melodic and harmonic content. No song captures the ear. I suppose the fact that these talented actresses are able to make so much of their numbers means that Barlow is doing something right - there are two or three genuine showstoppers. But, for me, at least, their success is all about the performances. Goodness, I hated the score. It so wanted to be Victoria Wood but was just a very sub-standard facsimile of it.
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Post by mallardo on Mar 9, 2017 13:07:20 GMT
What stops The Girls from being a great five star show is the score. BTW, were you in those front corner stalls, perchance? Just checking...
No, I was dead centre down front. Did I miss something?
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Post by bramble on Mar 9, 2017 15:46:46 GMT
its actually a damn good evening in the theatre
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Post by Mark on Mar 10, 2017 22:16:17 GMT
Saw the show again tonight and thoroughly enjoyed once more. The photo scene has got to be one of the funniest moments on stage at the moment.
Must say some of the changes from previews surprise me. I actually think the interval worked better where it was before. Also, they cut the reprise of "Dare" with them in the van which was one of the best moments when I first saw the show.
On a second viewing I can see why Ben was nominated. He has some great moments and certainly gets the laughs.
Stalls and dress circle were pretty full with upper circle closed.
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Post by mallardo on Mar 11, 2017 7:27:23 GMT
I know what you mean about the interval. I can see why they put it where it is but the staging is wrong. What should be a big moment is a bit of a damp squib.
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Post by showtoones on Mar 11, 2017 18:44:31 GMT
I love Joanna and think she is my fav West End leading lady! Does she perform all eight shows each week?
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Post by thebearofwestend on Mar 12, 2017 8:03:43 GMT
How does this compare to FN score wise
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Post by westendwendy on Mar 12, 2017 8:34:04 GMT
I think we all agree the show is good but the music bad! At least FN has done decent songs in it.
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Post by lewis on Mar 12, 2017 10:17:45 GMT
I think we all agree the show is good but the music bad! At least FN has done decent songs in it. Speak for yourself. If you actually read the thread, we certainly don't all agree with that.
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Post by Phantom of London on Mar 12, 2017 20:04:22 GMT
I thought a couple of songs I've are decent, saying that I haven't seen it in the West End yet.
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Post by infofreako on Mar 16, 2017 23:43:38 GMT
Baz says the cast are going into the studio in early April to record the cast album
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2017 23:44:16 GMT
Baz says the cast are going into the studio in early April to record the cast album ... will Gary be singing the parts of all The Girls?
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Post by infofreako on Mar 16, 2017 23:47:05 GMT
Im sure they will squeeze in a couple of bonus tracks
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