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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2018 21:33:31 GMT
Britney is on tour and her live shows are amazing. However she mainly mimes singing and dances. Yet thousands of people still go to her shows. If a male `singer` did this I think he would be less likely to get away with it. Does she get away with it because she is a dizzy blonde ? How is this ok ?
The whole show is a great production. But how does she get away with miming ?
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Post by daisy24601 on Sept 6, 2018 21:45:09 GMT
I don't think it has anything to do with her being female, and to some level she doesn't get away with it because she is continually slammed for it. The fact of the matter is, she is popular and loved enough that people will buy a ticket simply to see her. People want to hear her hit tunes as well as actually see her in the flesh, regardless of whether she is actually singing them live or not.
I was a HUGE Britney fan back in the day and have seen her in concert a few times. She did sing live in the early days and it got less and less over time. The first time I saw her she sang the slower songs and had playback for the dancier ones. I didn't mind because she danced the hell out of it and put on a great show but now I wouldn't go to see her because all she does is prance about in her underwear and doesn't sing a note.
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Post by grannyjx6 on Sept 6, 2018 21:50:06 GMT
My daughter in law went to see her in Glasgow with a couple of her friends. The tickets, accommodation, travel, meals etc cost a small fortune and she was really disappointed that Britney was very obviously miming. I don't think she will be going again any time soon either.
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Post by Marwood on Sept 6, 2018 22:13:56 GMT
all she does is prance about in her underwear
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Post by ellie1981 on Sept 6, 2018 22:14:43 GMT
I'm shocked that people are still buying tickets to her shows and expecting anything else. Never been a fan of her or her music, but she used to be a very good dancer, these days from what I’ve seen she dances like a robot.
The likes of Steps got awa with it all the time too. Then there are the bigger stars that re-record vocals to make them sound live (Madonna, Beyonce and Janet Jackson are massive culprits). Kylie Minogue on the other hand always sings live as far as I can tell.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2018 23:30:57 GMT
It is a fairly open secret that a lot of the show is lip synced and there has been talk about others doing it over the years.
Michael Jackson was rumoured to do a mixture back in the day too especially for his big dance routine numbers and more as he got older.
Do the band still play live or are the mixes on their instruments turned down I wonder.
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Post by daisy24601 on Sept 6, 2018 23:32:00 GMT
all she does is prance about in her underwear Unfortunately it costs a bit more than that! 😂
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Sept 7, 2018 5:07:53 GMT
Last time I saw her she didn’t even prance about, she just walked about in thigh boots or sat on a motorcycle with her legs akimbo.
She’s turning into Mariah. Next tour she’ll be motionless apart from the bits where the dancers pick her up.
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Post by mistressjojo on Sept 7, 2018 5:47:00 GMT
Last time I saw her she didn’t even prance about, she just walked about in thigh boots or sat on a motorcycle with her legs akimbo. She’s turning into Mariah. Next tour she’ll be motionless apart from the bits where the dancers pick her up. When you say 'bits'...? Mariah certainly has a bigger problem keeping her bits motionless.
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Post by learfan on Sept 7, 2018 5:58:17 GMT
Last time I saw her she didn’t even prance about, she just walked about in thigh boots or sat on a motorcycle with her legs akimbo. She’s turning into Mariah. Next tour she’ll be motionless apart from the bits where the dancers pick her up. Nothing wrong with legs akimbo!
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Post by Marwood on Sept 7, 2018 6:12:40 GMT
Unfortunately it costs a bit more than that! 😂 Unfortunately I couldn't find any 'I'd buy that for a few hundred dollars!' GIFs
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2018 8:12:34 GMT
Well as someone who paid good money for the tour I suppose I should answer here right??
I've seen her on tour since the early 00s and it's totally fair comment that she did sing more live back in the day than now. How does she get away with it? well I guess because fans want to see 'Britney the show' rather than 'Britney the singer' (I mean god love her but even as a recording artist her singing is fairly average). And the show is great! obviously it's different now to when she was 23 but I'm a couple of years younger than her and boy if I could do those moves at my age....
I understand NOT wanting to see her I don't understand the utter fury people have at others wanting to. To me it's like saying to Wrestling fans 'well it's not a real fight why are you paying good money' I personally don't want to pay to see that either but to fans it's FUN.
So I went to the London date and had a bloody good time. The only thing I will say is Brit is clearly now really uncomfortable with anything beyond the impeccably choreographed (in every sense) routines of the show- the audience interaction (such as it is) is super awkward and you can tell she isn't comfortable. Whereas back in the early concerts she seemed much more at ease. Given the life she's had in the public eye though who can blame her?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2018 8:14:32 GMT
What about Tiesto, Guetta, etc? All these big name DJs playing to 10s of thousands of people a night. Famously pre-mix their set and just stand behind the decks miming. All male too.
The value for the fans is getting to see their idols in the flesh and the production element has taken such a forefront that everything needs to be perfect.
If Britney sang live every night, would he ticket sales remain the same? Hell no, people wouldn't stand or sit through 90-120minutes of out of tune howling, ticket sales would drop and the machine would run out of business.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2018 8:27:58 GMT
Yes! I had a similar thought when I saw 'Fatboy Slim' on BBC Breakfast yesterday- 1000s turn up for his arena gigs (which admittedly he puts on a 'show' as well for) but he's not 'performing' anything live either other that a big of jigging about behind his decks!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2018 8:37:09 GMT
Kylie Minogue on the other hand always sings live as far as I can tell. She does indeed. Over the years, Kylie has actually turned into quite a wonderful live performer. Probably much to the surprise of many people.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2018 8:49:41 GMT
Kylie Minogue on the other hand always sings live as far as I can tell. She does indeed. Over the years, Kylie has actually turned into quite a wonderful live performer. Probably much to the surprise of many people. And not to anyone who has been there since the 80s. My first albums were Kylie on tape! I adore Kylie and she's very much still on my 'bucket list' performers that I'm very sad not to have managed to see yet.
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Post by ellie1981 on Sept 7, 2018 8:52:20 GMT
What about Tiesto, Guetta, etc? All these big name DJs playing to 10s of thousands of people a night. Famously pre-mix their set and just stand behind the decks miming. All male too. The value for the fans is getting to see their idols in the flesh and the production element has taken such a forefront that everything needs to be perfect. If Britney sang live every night, would he ticket sales remain the same? Hell no, people wouldn't stand or sit through 90-120minutes of out of tune howling, ticket sales would drop and the machine would run out of business. A few years ago I went to some weekend dance festival with some friends. I only really went because Soul II Soul were on the bill, and I went to their tent to see them alone which was absolutely wonderful. The rest of it was standing around watching men on a stage with a laptop and a light show. The “star” headliner was Eric Prydz - it honestly could have been anyone up there and no one would have noticed. I can’t tell you how bored I was, especially when there was clearly quite a bit of drug use going on in the toilets. I hate to be all judgmental about it, but the music I love doesn’t need drugs to be enjoyed as it’s a high just to see it performed alone.
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Post by ellie1981 on Sept 7, 2018 8:55:25 GMT
She does indeed. Over the years, Kylie has actually turned into quite a wonderful live performer. Probably much to the surprise of many people. And not to anyone who has been there since the 80s. My first albums were Kylie on tape! I adore Kylie and she's very much still on my 'bucket list' performers that I'm very sad not to have managed to see yet. Oh she’s a real treat. I’ve seen her 8 times now and each one was a blast. The best was the Anti-Tour when she did a series of one off gigs only playing her album tracks and B-Sides, so you had to be a proper fan to go. One of the most memorable concerts I’ve ever attended.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2018 9:26:22 GMT
I can’t tell you how bored I was, especially when there was clearly quite a bit of drug use going on in the toilets. I hate to be all judgmental about it, but the music I love doesn’t need drugs to be enjoyed as it’s a high just to see it performed alone. Well I am happy to be judgemental about it. That's just disgusting and outrageous. Who takes their drugs in a toilet anymore? So unhygienic.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2018 9:35:34 GMT
I hate to be all judgmental about it, but the music I love doesn’t need drugs to be enjoyed as it’s a high just to see it performed alone. You've obviously never experienced The Lion King tripping your balls off on LSD then. /joke
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2018 9:53:44 GMT
I've been a Britney fan for 20 years and only saw her 'in person' for the first time this year at the o2 in London.
I'm not against miming if it's justifiable - miming one or two songs out of 20+ isn't really a negative if it's to the benefit of the song's performance - Madonna for example, famously mimes almost all Vogue performances because it's such a routine intense song. I'm good with that - especially as she is happy to pre-record live vocals and mime to those, offering the illusion and not taking the audience out of the performance. Hell, even Celine Dion mimes her big notes nowadays (including My Heart Will Go On).
Britney refuses to do this and for the life of me I can't understand it. I remember loving Baby One More Time and became a full on stan when she released her second album. But I never saw her life - mainly due to location issues - but I certainly don't think she was ever worth the ticket price. I've often called her shows an album listening party with Britney 'in person'. But this year I was determined to cross her off my live list, as she's the biggest star of her generation left for me to see (I saw JT and Xtina back in the day).
Initially I was prepared to pay full price for tickets if I could get close enough to the stage, but I could only get row S (which I turned down... only to discover was front of the catwalk) but refused to pay £140 for them. I held off and picked up a £50 ticket on the side next to block A, which was a brilliant location and a price I was very comfortable paying. So I turned up and there was something electric in the air... people were incredibly excited. The show started, Britney walked on at the side and the place just went wild.
Honestly, I've only ever heard a crowd roar like that for Madonna or the Spice Girls... and when you're in the midst of it, it's hard not to get caught up in it. Yes she mimes and yes it's very obvious it's the album vocal, but in the end it didn't actually matter. The youtube videos do her nor the show any justice what so ever. It's the experience of it all - it was a greatest hits show, Britney is a genuine star, people were drunk and there to just have a good time.
It bugs me she doesn't re-record her vocals as there is no justifiable reason. It also bugs me she charges only a tiny bit less than the likes of Madonna and Celine, who do sing mostly live. But that's my issue and I found a way around it. So in conclusion the only real reason I can offer as to why she gets away with miming is simply because once you are there it really doesn't matter. I was very surprised at how little it detracted from the show - which really, is all she's offering. It's not a concert, but a dance show and I can get on board with that at the right price.
I do wonder how long she can pull it off for though - but this is her first UK tour in 6 or 7 years, so if she sticks to such schedules she probably can continue to pull it off. Britney is the biggest star of her generation and her original teen audience has now grown up and have disposable income to spend on her. I mean I get all the criticism lobbied at her - and it's all justifiable - but none of that really applies when you're there, in the moment... which is what you're actually paying for.
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Post by jaqs on Sept 7, 2018 11:17:36 GMT
I saw her in Vegas a few years ago. She looked miserable for much of the set but the crowd loved it.
Honestly I don't think she would manage to remember the words to her songs to sing live.
She keeps a lot of dancers and crew in work which is a great thing.
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Post by ellie1981 on Sept 7, 2018 11:27:59 GMT
I really think it’s just me. I’m the same age as Britney and never even thought of her being a “superstar”. She was just kind of a regular popular pop star in the same way Steps were in the U.K. or like a 00s version of Olivia Newton John. On an international scale no bigger than the Backstreet Boys in the same way as they had a small handful of high selling albums during a little blip in time. And I always put that down to the pre-download market where the US barely issued physical singles, forcing consumers to buy albums they otherwise never would have considered. I certainly never put her in the same sentence as Madonna.
It’s only from talking to people 10 years younger that I realised she apparently meant a lot more to them than that.
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Sept 7, 2018 11:33:46 GMT
We got some riveting press out of her with the whole “meltdown” thing. Remember when she shaved her head?
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Post by ellie1981 on Sept 7, 2018 11:42:29 GMT
We got some riveting press out of her with the whole “meltdown” thing. Remember when she shaved her head? I actually think that might have been a turning point where she became more than just another pop star. Like a symptom of the online paparazzi and their treatment of young (mostly female) celebrities. Her mental instability may have caused her fan base to become hugely protective of her rather than just putting her on a pedestal.
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