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Post by sparky5000 on May 21, 2019 10:54:57 GMT
This is a PR disaster on social media as fans of the show realise how Laura's been treated and that this wasn't her choice. She deserves such a good send-off on 15th June. Yes she does! I think it will be quite an emotional show with Kat leaving too. I wanted to get good stalls seats for Kat’s last show on the 15th in one of the rows nearish the front but the first 6 or 7 rows are sold out entirely and what’s left of the good seats are premium priced seats of £99+ unless I sit further back 😐 .... my own fault for not buying the tickets sooner. I don’t know if I should just bite the bullet and get tickets now or wait to see if the premium seats reduce in price a bit nearer the time 😬
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Post by danb on May 21, 2019 10:55:12 GMT
All they wanted to talk about was her Strictly himbo.... Was Lucie on GMB too or just Ashley? Also if the interview was anything like the interview with Kat McPhee (where Piers was just THE WORST) I’m surprised if they even mentioned Waitress at all! Just Ashley for about ninety seconds...she did great at bringing the topic back to Waitress.
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Post by BurlyBeaR on May 21, 2019 10:57:53 GMT
Totally playing devil's advocate here. And I don't disagree this sounds unfortunate for the person involved. BUT, if they DIDN'T stunt cast, based on advanced sales, the show may well have had to close altogether - which would mean EVERYONE loses their jobs. She will either have been on a short contract or will be entitled to compensation for a breach of contract. Also let us not forget that most actors never get anywhere near a leading role on a West End stage so life really hasn't been that bad to her. As ever folks, show BUSINESS. The producers need to turn a profit or it's game over. That won't be a surprise to anyone who goes into acting. Exactly. Some people seem to think the show is being run for their personal benefit. What’s being done is being done to make a success of it, not out of mischief or bloody mindedness. There are people wanting a return on their hard cash investment into the show.
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Post by danb on May 21, 2019 11:11:13 GMT
Totally playing devil's advocate here. And I don't disagree this sounds unfortunate for the person involved. BUT, if they DIDN'T stunt cast, based on advanced sales, the show may well have had to close altogether - which would mean EVERYONE loses their jobs. She will either have been on a short contract or will be entitled to compensation for a breach of contract. Also let us not forget that most actors never get anywhere near a leading role on a West End stage so life really hasn't been that bad to her. As ever folks, show BUSINESS. The producers need to turn a profit or it's game over. That won't be a surprise to anyone who goes into acting. Exactly. Some people seem to think the show is being run for their personal benefit. What’s being done is being done to make a success of it, not out of mischief or bloody mindedness. There are people wanting a return on their hard cash investment into the show. ...and as has also been said, who know whether or not Laura may have asked for time out of the show?
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Post by sparky5000 on May 21, 2019 11:13:36 GMT
Totally playing devil's advocate here. And I don't disagree this sounds unfortunate for the person involved. BUT, if they DIDN'T stunt cast, based on advanced sales, the show may well have had to close altogether - which would mean EVERYONE loses their jobs. She will either have been on a short contract or will be entitled to compensation for a breach of contract. Also let us not forget that most actors never get anywhere near a leading role on a West End stage so life really hasn't been that bad to her. As ever folks, show BUSINESS. The producers need to turn a profit or it's game over. That won't be a surprise to anyone who goes into acting. Yeah sadly they wouldn’t be doing this if there wasn’t a financial need to do so. I feel bad for Laura that she’s the chosen sacrificial lamb but better to try everything to keep the show going. I just hope the casting works, and that Ashley proves to be a big draw over the summer. I assume she’s commanding a higher salary than Laura.
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Post by stevej678 on May 21, 2019 11:24:29 GMT
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Post by latefortheoverture on May 21, 2019 11:32:44 GMT
Many many many tweets coming from many other actors in the industry. Some obvious and some quite discreet.
Although we shouldn't judge, she may have had a short contract, or asked for time off. But judging by the influx of tweets from people in the industry it does seem there's more to the situation.
Anyways I'm very excited for Laura to be back 'at the end of the summer' what ever that means!
And who is gonna go see Ashley? I'm intrigued to how she'll get on, she's got a good personality and I think she could surprise people. Time will tell.
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Post by latefortheoverture on May 21, 2019 11:33:06 GMT
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Post by d'James on May 21, 2019 11:45:53 GMT
Even though I really wanted to see Laura Baldwin most of all in this Cast (I won’t be able to now), I can’t help but feel a bit sorry for Ashley. I hope people aren’t harsh to her.
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2019 11:52:03 GMT
Even though I really wanted to see Laura Baldwin most of all in this Cast (I won’t be able to now), I can’t help but feel a bit sorry for Ashley. I hope people aren’t harsh to her. Me too. She hardly got the warmest reception on Strictly (despite being amazing). And none of this is her fault! Also, re all the Tweets, actors love a bit of drama and a reason for today's #shocked&appalled - and none of this will reach the GBP. It's a micro-climate. Actually, in fairness to actors, many HUMANS love a bit of drama. But actors, de facto, are at that end of the spectrum. In general.
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Post by sparky5000 on May 21, 2019 11:52:45 GMT
Many many many tweets coming from many other actors in the industry. Some obvious and some quite discreet. Although we shouldn't judge, she may have had a short contract, or asked for time off. But judging by the influx of tweets from people in the industry it does seem there's more to the situation. Anyways I'm very excited for Laura to be back 'at the end of the summer' what ever that means! And who is gonna go see Ashley? I'm intrigued to how she'll get on, she's got a good personality and I think she could surprise people. Time will tell. I don’t think there’s more to the situation, but of course the actors and actresses within the West End are going to be supporting Laura on this because they see stunt casting happening all the time, which lessens their chances, and it must annoy them. But like others here have said, stunt casting is a necessity for some shows to survive in the West End, so would they rather no shows at all or a failing West End? I’m sure it not a decision they took lightly. I also think it sucks for Ashley that she’s been damned already by some as some as non deserving. She a seasoned performer, can sing well enough, so I don’t see why she can’t be a really good Dawn.
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Post by d'James on May 21, 2019 11:53:01 GMT
Even though I really wanted to see Laura Baldwin most of all in this Cast (I won’t be able to now), I can’t help but feel a bit sorry for Ashley. I hope people aren’t harsh to her. Me too. She hardly got the warmest reception on Strictly (despite being amazing). And none of this is her fault! Also, re all the Tweets, actors love a bit of drama and a reason for today's #shocked&appalled - and none of this will reach the GBP. It's a micro-climate. I wouldn’t put it past one of the tabloids to make the public aware of it though.
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2019 11:57:10 GMT
And re stunt casting threatening other actors chances, been discussed much on this board before - it doesn't. Add up the number of actors on a West End stage tonight. Then the number who are stunt cast. And work out the percentage. It is inconsequential to their employment chances. It's just very high profile when it happens. So we think it's more of a problem than it is.
(Also MOST stunt casting is of people who are trained/in the industry - it's rarely COMPLETELY left field).
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Post by BurlyBeaR on May 21, 2019 11:57:13 GMT
I think the performers sending those tweets need to get a grip. If they were offered the job themselves they’d snatch the producers hand off.
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Post by BurlyBeaR on May 21, 2019 11:57:37 GMT
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Post by latefortheoverture on May 21, 2019 11:59:46 GMT
I think she could be good. I'm hoping anyways.
She of course could go either way- really good or Sarah Harding.
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2019 11:59:52 GMT
I think the performers sending those tweets need to get a grip. If they were offered the job themselves they’d snatch the producers hand off. This!
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Post by sparky5000 on May 21, 2019 12:00:39 GMT
I think the performers sending those tweets need to get a grip. If they were offered the job themselves they’d snatch the producers hand off. This! Sadly the MT community is a very welcoming place if you’re part of the community. If you’re not, then good luck to you 😬
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Post by latefortheoverture on May 21, 2019 12:02:41 GMT
Really nice response from Oliver Tompsett. Lovely guy.
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Post by sparky5000 on May 21, 2019 12:03:01 GMT
Another tweet that made me laugh 😅
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Post by stevej678 on May 21, 2019 12:07:01 GMT
She hardly got the warmest reception on Strictly (despite being amazing). And none of this is her fault! That's the thing that surprises me most about this. If the show is relying on Ashley Roberts to save it, they might as well pull the shutters down now. She struggled to get the public behind her on Strictly and wouldn't have got anywhere near the final without being repeatedly saved by the judges, despite being arguably the best dancer in the competition. It's hardly like the producers have signed up Ariana Grande for a couple of months and the public will be queueing round the block. I just don't see this making much of a difference. Laura seems to be paying the price of the producers' own mistakes in their marketing and pricing of the show, not to mention their choice of theatre in the first place.
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Post by LaLuPone on May 21, 2019 12:10:37 GMT
To be fair she came second on I’m a Celeb, so the public obviously loved her back then. I guess we’ll just have to wait and see if this helps or not, I really hope it does and then Laura can come back to some fuller houses!
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2019 12:23:58 GMT
There seems to be a big Twitter backlash to Ashley replacing Laura although Laura will return later in the summer. Ashley from the outside age and lookswise would have seemed a more natural Jenna but her vocal range might not be up to it.
Ashley was popular on I'm A Celeb but the public never warmed to her on Strictly for some reason. At least Laura will be returning as Ashley will be wanting to keep an eye on Giovanni for the next series of Strictly.
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Post by danb on May 21, 2019 12:24:09 GMT
Soooo, she has a pie where her hands should be...thats why they cast her. It all makes sense now. 😂
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Post by danb on May 21, 2019 12:27:06 GMT
There seems to be a big Twitter backlash to Ashley replacing Laura although Laura will return later in the summer. Ashley from the outside age and lookswise would have seemed a more natural Jenna but her vocal range might not be up to it. Ashley was popular on I'm A Celeb but the public never warmed to her on Strictly for some reason. At least Laura will be returning as Ashley will be wanting to keep an eye on Giovanni for the next series of Strictly. No, they never warmed to ‘dances for a living’ Ashley. Funny that. The predominantly middle aged women that vote for Strictly just couldn’t get past it.
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