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Post by MrsCondomine on May 8, 2019 15:58:40 GMT
No-one predicted that... Harrison - son of Harry But Archie??! Archie is one of those bizarre names that you can find in both a nursing home and an overcrowded state school. Magical. And Harrison is hilarious. Are they both a bit thick or do they genuinely think it's oh-so-clever to almost literally call him Harry's Son? |
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Post by MrsCondomine on May 8, 2019 16:01:27 GMT
(also I love the non-story that it was going to be an 'unusual' name - 50% of British boys seem to be called Archie nowadays, with the other 50% being Tyler or Alfie. Bleugh. Not names I would give my children, for certain, but then again it's none of my business  ) |
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2019 21:57:29 GMT
Poor kid.
And he doesn't even get a posh title despite the fact his mother was perfectly happy to become a Duchess!
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2019 3:50:05 GMT
They could have included a title in his name. Archie Harrison Devourer of Souls Mountbatten-Windsor has a nice ring to it.
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Post by MrsCondomine on May 9, 2019 7:35:09 GMT
Poor kid. And he doesn't even get a posh title despite the fact his mother was perfectly happy to become a Duchess! That grated with me - if you didn't want your kids to be titled, you should've married a commoner and had kids with them. I count myself as a Meghan liker but her weird tinkly stage laughter during the interview got on my wick. |
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Post by MrsCondomine on May 9, 2019 7:45:20 GMT
(If I was a Duchess, I would definitely call my children things like:
Peregrine Rupert Charles
Ralph (pronounced 'Raif' OBVIOUSLY) Tiberius William
Cecilia Angel Pearl
Marina Kitten Catherine
Selene Octavia Rose
Thomasina Yara Petal
Cosima Imogen Wren
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Post by oxfordsimon on May 9, 2019 7:50:15 GMT
We have had a Princess Marina in the past so that has the right heritage.
Archie is less out there than Eugenie or Zara
I suspect he will pick up titles as he gets older. I don't blame anyone for wanting to give him as much normality as is possible under such circumstances. The kid is going to put under intense media attention for the rest of his life. I know a title doesn't change that but as has been seen with Peter Philips, it is possible for someone to escape the glare or royal watchers most of the time.
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Post by MrsCondomine on May 9, 2019 7:59:03 GMT
We have had a Princess Marina in the past so that has the right heritage. I had no idea! Just had a google, how interesting  I would pick Marina because of Pericles - I am that cool. |
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2019 8:01:02 GMT
Poor kid. And he doesn't even get a posh title despite the fact his mother was perfectly happy to become a Duchess! That grated with me - if you didn't want your kids to be titled, you should've married a commoner and had kids with them. I count myself as a Meghan liker but her weird tinkly stage laughter during the interview got on my wick. There's no real reason for him to have a title though, particularly now in the days of a slimmed down Royal Family. He's so far down the line of succession now and Meghan Markdown has banged on for long enough about wanting her children to have "normal" lives so it's hardly surprising. She's so achingly earnest about wanting to seem different that this just helps add to her persona as "a breath of fresh air" in the Royal Family. He can become a Prince of course when Charles becomes King but only if Meghan and Harry approve. |
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Post by oxfordsimon on May 9, 2019 8:01:18 GMT
I only know of her name as there was a hospital named after her close to where I grew up
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2019 8:02:38 GMT
We have had a Princess Marina in the past so that has the right heritage. Archie is less out there than Eugenie or Zara I suspect he will pick up titles as he gets older. I don't blame anyone for wanting to give him as much normality as is possible under such circumstances. The kid is going to put under intense media attention for the rest of his life. I know a title doesn't change that but as has been seen with Peter Philips, it is possible for someone to escape the glare or royal watchers most of the time. And Princess Alexandra's daughter is also called Marina (after her grandmother). |
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Post by kathryn on May 9, 2019 10:52:57 GMT
That grated with me - if you didn't want your kids to be titled, you should've married a commoner and had kids with them. I count myself as a Meghan liker but her weird tinkly stage laughter during the interview got on my wick. There's no real reason for him to have a title though, particularly now in the days of a slimmed down Royal Family.... He can become a Prince of course when Charles becomes King but only if Meghan and Harry approve. Technically even William and Kate's younger kids shouldn't really have titles - they were granted as a courtesy by the Queen. Possibly because Kate has a yearning for titles, or perhaps to prevent headaches and sibling rivalry due differing rules of precedence among the kids. Can you imagine having to tell your younger children that they have to bow to their elder sister? |
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Post by oxfordsimon on May 9, 2019 10:57:16 GMT
They will all have to bow to George in the end
But the children of each royal couple should be treated as equally as possible. I know given their roles that is difficult. But it is better to try than to be forced into some rigid hierarchy.
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2019 11:17:47 GMT
Technically even William and Kate's younger kids shouldn't really have titles - they were granted as a courtesy by the Queen. Possibly because Kate has a yearning for titles, or perhaps to prevent headaches and sibling rivalry due differing rules of precedence among the kids. Can you imagine having to tell your younger children that they have to bow to their elder sister? In a way yes it is by courtesy of the Queen however she issued letters patent back before Prince George was born that the title and style was to be given to ALL children of Prince William. So really by the time Charlotte and Louis came along they both technically should have the titles. The courtesy was granted by the Queen before any of the children were born. |
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Post by Someone in a tree on May 9, 2019 12:23:21 GMT
Not a good day for Danny Baker. Perhaps he can go back to promoting whiter than white washing powder?
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Post by karloscar on May 9, 2019 14:27:46 GMT
Danny Baker's claims of not knowing which royal had given birth are just ridiculous. The image was blatantly racist, and he's fooling nobody that he didn't know exactly what he was posting.
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Post by oxfordsimon on May 9, 2019 15:27:40 GMT
Baker - not for the first time in his career - as made an idiot of himself.
No pity for him at all.
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Post by kathryn on May 9, 2019 16:30:19 GMT
Danny Baker's claims of not knowing which royal had given birth are just ridiculous. The image was blatantly racist, and he's fooling nobody that he didn't know exactly what he was posting. Quite. Given that he's a long-time football obsessive, he can't fail to know about the racist associations around monkees, bananas and black people. And I note that he posted an old picture of himself using a banana as a microphone around the same time as he was tweeting about the baby, as well as a picture of a can of beer that 'Contains 'brown' in it's 'grist.'. Bit of a coincidence, that. |
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2019 18:26:16 GMT
Bit of a surprise that the BBC actually fired him; their usual MO with racists is to invite them onto Newsnight.
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Post by theglenbucklaird on May 9, 2019 18:56:02 GMT
I'm going to be honest, when I was shown the picture I thought it was a circus joke. Didn't cross my mind that he (might) have meant that with racist intention. My friend was going no look again. Still didn't see it. He had to tell me.
I'm going for stupid not racist. Danny Baker not me.
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Post by Backdrifter on May 9, 2019 19:25:52 GMT
Bit of a surprise that the BBC actually fired him; their usual MO with racists is to invite them onto Newsnight. ... or onto Question Time 33 times. |
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2019 21:39:49 GMT
Wasn't Danny Baker a football pundit? Haven't football hooligans been notable for their racism over the years, including but not limited to throwing bananas at black players? He might not have meant it racistly, but it seems really unlikely that he could work as a professional observer of football but somehow magically always be looking in the other direction when the racism happens.
(And besides, intent never matters quite as much as effect; maybe you never meant to touch anyone when you decided to flail your arms around vigorously in a crowded tube carriage, but your intent matters for very little when I end up with two black eyes and a broken nose courtesy of your windmilling arms.)
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Post by showgirl on May 10, 2019 6:36:12 GMT
"Archie" rather than the full version is just awful: by all means call a child by the diminutive but for goodness' sake, give her/him a proper name. I have an acquaintance whose sons are called "Bobby" and something else shortened and apparently that's how she registered them.
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2019 6:46:44 GMT
Danny Baker's claims of not knowing which royal had given birth are just ridiculous. Particularly as he knew a few days earlier. Perhaps he forgot?  |
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2019 10:04:20 GMT
He has posted a new apology and explanation this morning
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