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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2018 13:18:43 GMT
Does it though? The Dominion auditorium is quite possibly one of the ugliest auditoriums in London's glitzy West End. They're going to have to do a lot of work to make that frog a prince. but by the look of that photo they do kind of just take over the auditorium so they could go to down. the more ornate theatres may have more restrictions. plus a windmill outside the theatre would be a real eye catcher
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2018 18:23:45 GMT
Stolen from the BWW message boards:
ACT 1
Lady marmalade/ rhythm of the night -Zidler and company
Never gonna give u up - Christian
Royals/ We Are Young - Christian, Toulouse-Lautrec and company
Diamonds are forever/ Diamonds are girls best friend/ Material girl/ Single ladies/ - Satine and company
Shut up and dance / Raise your glass - Satine, Christian, Zidler
Firework - Satine
Your Song - Christian
Spectacular Spectacular (completely changed the story, only keep the “so exciting... so delighting ... part) - Christian, Satine, Zidler and Company
You Can’t Always Get what You Want / Gimme Shelter- the Duke, Satine
Nature Boy - Toulouse-Lautrec, Christian
Elephant Love Medley (added Take On Me, Evertime We Touch, Everlasting love, What’s love gotta do with it, ...) - Christian, Satine
ACT 2
Bad Romance/ Toxic/ Sweet Dreams - Company
Come What May - Christian, Satine
Only Girl - the Duke and Company
Shake It Out - Zidler, Satine and Company
Chandelier - Zidler and Company
Roxanne - Christian
Crazy/ Rolling in the deep - Christian, Satine
Your Song (Reprise) - Satine
Come What May (Reprise) - Christian and Company
Encore: Lady Marmalade, Hey Ya!, Crazy, Galop Infernal.
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Post by Ade on Jul 12, 2018 18:31:03 GMT
Stolen from the BWW message boards: ACT 1 Lady marmalade/ rhythm of the night -Zidler and company Never gonna give u up - Christian Royals/ We Are Young - Christian, Toulouse-Lautrec and company Diamonds are forever/ Diamonds are girls best friend/ Material girl/ Single ladies/ - Satine and company Shut up and dance / Raise your glass - Satine, Christian, Zidler Firework - Satine Your Song - Christian Spectacular Spectacular (completely changed the story, only keep the “so exciting... so delighting ... part) - Christian, Satine, Zidler and Company You Can’t Always Get what You Want / Gimme Shelter- the Duke, Satine Nature Boy - Toulouse-Lautrec, Christian Elephant Love Medley (added Take On Me, Evertime We Touch, Everlasting love, What’s love gotta do with it, ...) - Christian, Satine ACT 2 Bad Romance/ Toxic/ Sweet Dreams - Company Come What May - Christian, Satine Only Girl - the Duke and Company Shake It Out - Zidler, Satine and Company Chandelier - Zidler and Company Roxanne - Christian Crazy/ Rolling in the deep - Christian, Satine Your Song (Reprise) - Satine Come What May (Reprise) - Christian and Company Encore: Lady Marmalade, Hey Ya!, Crazy, Galop Infernal. Flipping heck! It’s like a Now! album cramming that lot in. Interesting to see if there’s much story progression in any of them. Or if it just feels like a two hour show at the Moulin Rouge. Hopefully the former as the movie balanced music and storytelling very well.
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Post by jgblunners on Jul 12, 2018 18:50:44 GMT
Never gonna give u up - Christian As in the Rick Astley song? Dear lord...
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2018 18:56:09 GMT
Stolen from the BWW message boards:... Flipping heck! It’s like a Now! album cramming that lot in. Interesting to see if there’s much story progression in any of them. Or if it just feels like a two hour show at the Moulin Rouge. Hopefully the former as the movie balanced music and storytelling very well. It is very early days yet, but overwhelming opinion on BWW board is that its style over substance. They wow you with spectacle to try hide the fact that there isn't much to the book and its delivery. I do find it quite ironic that a show that at its core is about bohemian ideals (or at least originally was) has had its integrity compromised by shoehorning in a load of current pop music to make it appeal to the masses.
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Post by Ade on Jul 12, 2018 19:23:08 GMT
Flipping heck! It’s like a Now! album cramming that lot in. Interesting to see if there’s much story progression in any of them. Or if it just feels like a two hour show at the Moulin Rouge. Hopefully the former as the movie balanced music and storytelling very well. It is very early days yet, but overwhelming opinion on BWW board is that its style over substance. They wow you with spectacle to try hide the fact that there isn't much to the book and its delivery. I do find it quite ironic that a show that at its core is about bohemian ideals (or at least originally was) has had its integrity compromised by shoehorning in a load of current pop music to make it appeal to the masses. Just made the mistake of reading comments on there. Definitely disappointing. Especially given the production team seem to have got the visuals spot on. The movie has the makings of a great stage musical but looks like they are trying to mess with it too much and put a new stamp on it. Hopefully they learn as it progresses. The big alarm bell for me is messing with Roxanne. That could have been lifted from the movie and stuck on stage and received a standing ovation every night, so if they have messed that up (as comments on BWW suggest) it’s a bad sign for the rest of it.
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Post by robertb213 on Jul 12, 2018 22:20:42 GMT
My soul died reading that song list.
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Post by ali973 on Jul 13, 2018 4:14:32 GMT
Just saw the second preview tonight. Off with a very rocky start when we were evacuated due to a fire alert, then told to come back in, and then no no, you have to go back out, and then again come back in. Needless to say, the entire operations part of the theatre is very rough and it's evident, and the ushers don't know where to direct the patrons to (and just like some Broadway theatres, there are sections that only have odd numbers, and others have even numbers). The show itself works for the most part. It's a sensory overload monster, and yes, of course it's style over substance. We've seen the movie, and if it's substance we are looking for, you really don't know Broadway or should be re-directed to other musicals. It's a jukebox megamusical kids and people want to have fun and have their eyes bedazzled, and it delivers. The unit set is pretty much what we've seen in production shots. Red, opulent and rich. It remains mostly the basis of the entire show, and is used well. The lighting is slick and has great variety. There are smaller sets within the set, namely Satin's dressing room in the elephant and Christian's studio. Satin's room is a bit of a let down. It's one dimensional, and the piece and furniture in it look amateur. What it needed is some more perspective and character. Christian's studio is a bit better, and utilizes different pieces that are flown in to form the scenery. And that's my biggest gripe with the scenic elements of the show. For a show that is based on a movie that is so dynamic, and quick, I would have wanted these scenes to be less static and to give us fantastical theatre magicl. For all the work that has done, the visual part of the show lacks the stagecraft that I would have expected from Moulin Rouge. Satin's room only came to life at the end of the Love Medley, when it spun around and revealed the rooftop. What I wanted was a lot more scenes that would dissolve, assemble and reassemble in front of our eyes. For the most part, especially in the more emotional songs and ballads that don't have any big movement and choreography, the staging is a let down. Parking and barking or just running from one end of the stage to another does not work. This is where the choreography is used to great effect to compensate. The ensemble are unbelievably strong and insanely talented,, and the dancing is pretty thrilling and sometimes absolutely aggressive. Karen Olivo is luminous, and I don't know how and where she'll find the stamina to sustain this with the pressures of opening a show on Broadway. This will need unbelievable commitment from her. She really has to deploy all she has throughout the show, and she does marvelously. Aaron Tveit, as I thought, was broad, generic and really uninteresting and unoriginal. For a bohemian, he's pretty square and clean cut. He has vocal range, I'll give him that, and that works for the pop songs. Otherwise, he's mainly bland and only comes to life towards the end when his jealously drives him insane. His two sidekicks are excellent (sorry -it's very late, can't pull up their names now). Tam Mutu is greatly underused, and Danny Burstein is pretty good though he gives us Cabaret Emcee especially at the beginning. For those who said that he doesn't have much material or that much to do, I disagree. He's very prominent. The songs, old and new, are plentiful and I don't recall all of them now. The audience seemed to be delighted at how they are shoe-horned in new scenes. I honestly do not know most of the new songs from the pop catalogue, but I recognized Firework, Rolling in the Deep, Crazy and Chandelier. Bad Romance is the Act II opening, and it was pretty damn thrilling. The Show Must Go On, my favorite song from the film, is eliminated, which is a shame, considering that this show is about the show going on. It's frustrating that Satin says, "after all, the show must go on" but we never get the song. In great shape for a second preview for such a big, movement-based show. When everyone settles in a bit, it'll be as perfect as it can get. Okay, I'm going to bed
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Post by ali973 on Jul 14, 2018 12:33:26 GMT
Second viewing last night...it did seem tighter in some parts and a minor change towards the end. Guys - I really like it even better. The staging is incredible, and I'm finding new moments to love. Tam Mutu's Only Girl in the World scene is pretty amazing, and Rolling In The Deep/Crazy replacing The Show Must Go On is also great.
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Post by Jon on Jul 14, 2018 13:53:48 GMT
What’s the Colonial like? Looks beautiful in be pictures I’ve seen. I’ve only been to the Shubert and my mother went to the Opera House when we were in Boston last year
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Post by ali973 on Jul 14, 2018 21:34:10 GMT
It's very beautiful and rococo. Size wise, I'd say it's around the same size as the Savoy, maybe even slightly narrower in the stalls.
It's not a big theatre, and they aren't going to a Dominion or Palladium feel. If it were to come to London, it'll have to be at the Adelphi or Prince Edward, which are already a tad bigger than the Colonial.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2018 0:39:06 GMT
Second viewing last night...it did seem tighter in some parts and a minor change towards the end. Guys - I really like it even better. The staging is incredible, and I'm finding new moments to love. Tam Mutu's Only Girl in the World scene is pretty amazing, and Rolling In The Deep/Crazy replacing The Show Must Go On is also great. What is the minor change? I saw the first preview. I wanted to love it, but I just liked it. The set/lighting/choreography/cast are incredible. The only things I didn't enjoy were some changes to the story. I don't think the book is particularly strong right now, but I'm sure they're going to iron it out. I just felt like we don't see Christian and Satine together enough, and I also thought that the show within the show feels like a bit of an afterthought. I'd love for them to do an epic opening number to the show they're putting on (though to be fair, the new theme of 'Spectacular, Spectacular' doesn't lend itself to that) and then transition to the pivotal scene between the leads, as to me the ending falls flat as it is a little bit (and I don't see the point of reprising Come What May at the end by Christian. I get the idea, but I think the ending needs more emotion - I didn't tear up and I want to next time I see it).
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2018 20:27:52 GMT
Just done a naughty, routing round the internet looking for audio clips etc. Saw/Heard some bits from Bad Romance. Whilst I don't particularly like the verbatim inclusion, I do think they've missed a massive trick by no 'mashing up'the end of it with the Can-Can. As I was listening to it, I could hear the can-can fitting in so perfectly to the ending. Think that would have helped anchor it in more perhaps.
And by Can-Can, I mean Offenbach's Galop.
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Post by ali973 on Jul 16, 2018 11:22:09 GMT
I just had to google Offenbach's Gallop. It's already done in the new version of Spectacular! Spectacular! and the standard Can Can is done at the show's opening.
I had my third (and unfortunately final) outing last night, and I have to say that I loved every minute. My first two viewings were from a far right hand seat in the stalls. While the view from that seat was good, there's nothing like seeing it from smack in the centre. So many details that I haven't seen before. Even Satine's dressing room that I was moaning about looked better.
There's just something about them probably rehearsing it and having several performances under their belt that just made it all land. There were so many people around me sniffing at the end - and everyone was just so into it.
Honestly, this is the most exciting show I've seen in ages. And I've said it once, but the Act II opening with Bad Romance/Toxic/Sweet Dreams is just out of this world. Some of the chorus boys will do very well after this show, and yo can tell this is a career game changer for them - most notably Kyle Brown, Max Clayton and Brandon Rodriguez. They are heavily featured in all the big numbers and are very strong.
Some of the changes: -When Ziegler is about to introduce Satine, Christian stands up instead. There's just a tiny timing alteration that was done to make the transition sharper. In previous performances it almost seemed like Christian would stand in for Satine and that drew a few laughs. -At the end when Satine is dying, the Duke was watching from his box and leaves it before she's completely gone. The Duke is no longer in the box throughout any of the scenes. -I could swear that Lautrec didn't sing a reprise of Come What May in previous performances, but I'm not sure.
I'm sad I'm leaving Boston and not seeing this again and again, but I am so glad that I did. This will be big.
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Post by Jon on Jul 17, 2018 16:46:20 GMT
With the announcement of School of Rock closing, I wonder if The Winter Garden is being eyed as a potential home for MR!
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Post by ali973 on Jul 18, 2018 4:49:13 GMT
I hope it goes into the Imperial. I've never been to the WG, but if they really want to go immersive the Imperial is the only one with an actual lobby. In Comet, they had the entire foyer and corridor leading to the auditorium converted into part of the set. They didn't do this with MR in Boston (perhaps because the Colonial itself is gorgeous and grand).
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2018 13:39:16 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2018 8:34:00 GMT
How about Sutton Foster as Satine
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Post by ali973 on Aug 1, 2018 12:50:28 GMT
I have a hunch that the role is now specifically made for a woman of color, especially given that the understudy is also Latina. It sort of makes sense. I inferred from the Lady Marmalade creole lyric that they are referring to Satine.
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Post by westendwilma on Aug 1, 2018 14:25:35 GMT
I hear rumours of it coming to London
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Post by ali973 on Aug 1, 2018 15:21:40 GMT
Make sure you take your meds, hun. I also start hearing things when I don't.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2018 15:29:57 GMT
Honestly, all it takes it five seconds on this board, and you'll hear rumours of EVERY show coming to London. It makes it very hard to plan a US trip when you want to focus on seeing things that *aren't* rumoured to be coming to London...
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2018 22:26:08 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2018 23:12:15 GMT
So is. it worse than Frozen?
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Post by ali973 on Aug 4, 2018 5:59:47 GMT
I'm not sure what you're on about. It's one of the most spectacular, exciting, thrilling and FUN shows I've seen in many years. It's absolutely thrilling, tight and polished for a pre-Broadway run (and I saw the second performance onward...I'm sure it's better now). It will only get better by the time it goes to Broadway next year.
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