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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2018 19:54:25 GMT
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Post by kimbahorel on Jul 25, 2018 20:02:54 GMT
If next door is finished renovations before they start on Queens it seems logical they just move it to the Gielgud for the interim period.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2018 20:14:24 GMT
although only about 100 seats less in capacity, les mis seems a big production for that theatre but yeah if they can make it fit it would make sense.
I did think mamma Mia would close and les mis could move there but with the new movie I wonder if that will help boost sales
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Post by iamamazing on Jul 25, 2018 20:15:12 GMT
I see les Miz ever at the Prince Edward start of 2020 Give Aladdin till next Christmas or Jan 2020 at least. Or my other gues is the Drury Lane which I can see possible. Frozen will probably open at the Prince Edward 11th May 2020 with an opening night on June 2nd. 2020. Aladdin will probably tour End of 2020 into 2022.
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Post by Jon on Jul 25, 2018 20:25:14 GMT
I think The Gielgud is probably more likely as it’s the most similar to the Queens but I wouldn’t rule out the Novello. It’s unlikely to go bigger
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Post by zak97 on Jul 25, 2018 20:28:22 GMT
I did think the Novello. Outside of DMT the Aldwych would fit. Unless they buy a new theatre.
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Post by iamamazing on Jul 25, 2018 20:49:26 GMT
I think The Gielgud is probably more likely as it’s the most similar to the Queens but I wouldn’t rule out the Novello. It’s unlikely to go bigger Your probably right but I wonder what will go into the Queens hopefully if successful Moulin rouge I can also see Anastasia going in their  |
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Post by Rory on Jul 25, 2018 20:54:30 GMT
I took it from reading the article that Les Mis will be returning to the Queen's once the work there is done. I'd say it could go the Gielgud temporarily or maybe back to the Barbican for a few months? I agree the new film will probably give Mamma Mia a boost over at the Novello so can't see it leaving there just yet.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2018 21:07:59 GMT
Mamma Mia has also just finished a really long UK tour so a lot of people will have seen it regionally, but the new movie will probably help them shift tickets.
I'd say the Gielgud is the most logical venue to go to because it's literally the same building, so they won't need to move the sets, costumes across the city.
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Post by Jon on Jul 26, 2018 0:41:51 GMT
I took it from reading the article that Les Mis will be returning to the Queen's once the work there is done. I'd say it could go the Gielgud temporarily or maybe back to the Barbican for a few months? I agree the new film will probably give Mamma Mia a boost over at the Novello so can't see it leaving there just yet. I imagine Cameron will probably want a new show to reopen the Queens but it’s hard to know. Wasn’t Cameron planning at one stage, restore the original frontage of the Queens which was destroyed in the Blitz and replace with the current frontage? |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2018 8:28:00 GMT
I really hope Cameron doesn’t use the move to implement the production changes to match the touring version.
The Queens is the only one that still uses the revolve and counts as the original Trevor Nunn production.
I’m guessing they’d need to stick to that or lose the “world’s longest running musical” tag. Hopefully that’s enough to stop him tinkering 😄
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2018 8:31:39 GMT
I’d say keep the same set/logistics, but just move them over to the Gielgud for an interim period, and they can go back into the Queen’s for when it’s been refurbished.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2018 8:34:55 GMT
I’m slightly less knowledgeable about the Queen’s (theatre, not the monarch). Is the grey brick FOH building an add on to the original building?
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Post by Oleanna on Jul 26, 2018 8:37:42 GMT
I’m slightly less knowledgeable about the Queen’s (theatre, not the monarch). Is the grey brick FOH building an add on to the original building? It’s a result of the original facade and FOH being destroyed in WWII. It should look like the Gielgud. About ten years ago, Cameron had plans to restore the facade to its original and buy the restaurant in between the theatres, thus returning the complete building to its original state. That was when he was also planning the Stephen Sondheim Theatre on the roof. Obviously that plan has now changed and the Ambassadors will become the Sondheim. |
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Post by kimbahorel on Jul 26, 2018 10:15:14 GMT
Question one thing mentioned is to restore the orginal boxes and loges. Now I have no idea what the theatre looked like so can anyone tell me where that is in the theatre. Is it where the slips are or is it the on stage side that are used in the show for characters to enter/exit and top left for when use the offstage gunshots.
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Post by Phantom of London on Jul 26, 2018 12:14:19 GMT
Les Miserable is still selling very well and you cannot get discounts easy, the longer it has run the more popular it has got, due to the downsize, 25th anniversary celebration, movie and Susan Boyle all adding to the popularity.
It doesn't have to move to the a Mackintosh theatre, I think it would be good if it moved to a bigger theatre, such as The Picadilly or the Savoy Theatre.
God knows why his theatres need renovations, just wish his competitors took a hint.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2018 12:48:39 GMT
I think it’s good that CM is renewing and modernising all his theatres so they’re fit for the future.
Compare that to ATG, who only seem to care about the Apollo Victoria, the Lyceum and some of their regional venues.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2018 14:12:37 GMT
Love Les Mis but I never felt it was the same in the Queen's - not sure why, just something about that theatre I don't warm to.
Personally I think Les Mis should go bigger. It's a big production, it regularly sells out and would look great in a big house - I would love to see it in the Prince Edward.
Sure will still be the Napier designed Nunn/Caird version - it is iconic now and is the only worldwide version still going, they won't get rid of it.
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Post by Jon on Jul 26, 2018 14:33:33 GMT
I think it’s good that CM is renewing and modernising all his theatres so they’re fit for the future. Compare that to ATG, who only seem to care about the Apollo Victoria, the Lyceum and some of their regional venues. ATG do refurbish their theatres, they did a great job on the Harold Pinter but they normally do it in stages rather than in one go Love Les Mis but I never felt it was the same in the Queen's - not sure why, just something about that theatre I don't warm to. That's true for many shows, i think Mamma Mia! was the same once it moved to the Novello. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2018 15:28:42 GMT
Love Les Mis but I never felt it was the same in the Queen's - not sure why, just something about that theatre I don't warm to. That's true for many shows, i think Mamma Mia! was the same once it moved to the Novello. It might be that you get used to seeing it in the same place so often, so it just doesn't feel as familiar or comfortable in another space. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2018 16:38:08 GMT
Indeed familiarity can be a strong thing.
But there is a certain way certain shows seem to just really fit certain theatres and feel right there. (I think this has been discussed on this board somewhere). And for me Les Mis at the Palace was one of those!
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Post by Oleanna on Jul 26, 2018 16:58:48 GMT
Love Les Mis but I never felt it was the same in the Queen's - not sure why, just something about that theatre I don't warm to. Personally I think Les Mis should go bigger. It's a big production, it regularly sells out and would look great in a big house - I would love to see it in the Prince Edward. Sure will still be the Napier designed Nunn/Caird version - it is iconic now and is the only worldwide version still going, they won't get rid of it. I actually think The Prince of Wales would be perfect for it. Great capacity, sightlines and that lovely wide proscenium. It would also get rid of The Book of Mormon. Not going to happen though, obviously! |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2018 17:07:08 GMT
in mamma Mias case the Prince of Wales was just the perfect venue for it, it just fitted so perfectly, better than when it was at the Prince Edward
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2018 21:32:09 GMT
Love Les Mis but I never felt it was the same in the Queen's - not sure why, just something about that theatre I don't warm to. Personally I think Les Mis should go bigger. It's a big production, it regularly sells out and would look great in a big house - I would love to see it in the Prince Edward. Sure will still be the Napier designed Nunn/Caird version - it is iconic now and is the only worldwide version still going, they won't get rid of it.
I completely agree. I've seen Les Mis at the Queen's more times than I saw it at the Palace (last time there was 19 years ago), but the Queen's has always lacked something for me. Maybe it's the size, maybe it's the facade and signage at the front, or maybe it's just nostalgia. But I would really like to see Les Mis in a theatre like the Prince Edward or Theatre Royal, Drury Lane (as Harry Potter is going nowhere, to give it it's old home back). As someone said, it still regularly sells out at the Queen's, but maybe Cameron won't want to take the risk of going bigger.
I saw on Twitter, in a now deleted tweet, the date of June 2019 for the move. To coincide with the cast change?
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Post by SageStageMgr on Jul 27, 2018 17:34:01 GMT
Love Les Mis but I never felt it was the same in the Queen's - not sure why, just something about that theatre I don't warm to. Personally I think Les Mis should go bigger. It's a big production, it regularly sells out and would look great in a big house - I would love to see it in the Prince Edward. Sure will still be the Napier designed Nunn/Caird version - it is iconic now and is the only worldwide version still going, they won't get rid of it.
I completely agree. I've seen Les Mis at the Queen's more times than I saw it at the Palace (last time there was 19 years ago), but the Queen's has always lacked something for me. Maybe it's the size, maybe it's the facade and signage at the front, or maybe it's just nostalgia. But I would really like to see Les Mis in a theatre like the Prince Edward or Theatre Royal, Drury Lane (as Harry Potter is going nowhere, to give it it's old home back). As someone said, it still regularly sells out at the Queen's, but maybe Cameron won't want to take the risk of going bigger.
I saw on Twitter, in a now deleted tweet, the date of June 2019 for the move. To coincide with the cast change?
Would make sense financially... |
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