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Post by theatremadness on Aug 30, 2016 15:24:58 GMT
Interesting......actors in Les Mis are now not allowed to reveal their understudy dates anymore. No idea why, but a lot of other actors (some formerly of Les Mis) are definitely not happy!
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Post by talkstageytome on Aug 30, 2016 15:47:56 GMT
Hmm very odd. I wonder why? There aren't exactly any 'names' in the cast that the general public would book for specifically, are there? It's mostly just fans of the understudies who ever ask, in my experience.
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Post by ali973 on Aug 30, 2016 15:51:12 GMT
That's a bad policy. I think if people are specifically trying to avoid holiday dates (or purposely going to see a specific understudy), they should have the right to know. It's one thing to demand an exchange or refund if someone is sick and an understudy shows up, but I think people are entitled to know if it's a scheduled holiday.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2016 16:01:31 GMT
I wonder if there's a possible stalker scenario, and by ensuring that no one shares their understudy dates, you disempower the rogue element's ability to stalk more efficiently. I don't think we necessarily have the right to know when an understudy is going on though, I'd be pretty cross if my co-workers revealed my holiday dates to one of our clients, which is what publishing your understudy dates basically does. Maybe it's not as sinister as I initially feared, maybe the powers that be just realised that while you may have the right to reveal information about yourself, it's a step too far to reveal information about your co-worker, even if that information is as innocuous as "said co-worker won't be in the workplace on these dates".
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Post by theatremadness on Aug 30, 2016 16:14:31 GMT
^ Whilst that is a completely fair point about publishing understudy dates, I think those who *are* understudies, more often that not, like to spread the word about when they'll be on, I guess mainly because it allows friends and family time to book to see them in a principal role. I should think they'd also be pretty excited and proud to be, for maybe one night only, a principal part in a West End show and will want to shout it from the rooftops! I'm not sure whether your co-worker comparison carries as you being on holiday and a client being told would be more like the audience being told who is operating the revolve tonight. It's a bit more "behind the scenes", whereas an understudy is far more public and they should be allowed the right to tell who they so wish, as opposed to being forced to keep quiet, as if being an understudy is something to be ashamed of.
With the issue of a stalker, them being a principal role or in the ensemble doesn't change the fact that they will still be on stage and will come out of stage door etc. Unless it's a swing who is not normally in the show - but of course definitely not something to completely dismiss!
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Post by wavingthroughawindow on Aug 30, 2016 16:27:46 GMT
With a few understudies on, Eva Noblezada is the only standout in the cast, in terms of voice and acting, but alone well worth the premium price.
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Post by Dave25 on Aug 30, 2016 16:28:39 GMT
"A possible stalker scenario".
I really don't see this. We are talking about understudies here, who are present at the theatre every day, just in different roles. If a person would like to see that actor in a leading role, he/she can buy a ticket and sit in the audience, but I would not consider that stalking. Waiting at stage door or following them or whatever stalkers do, they can do it every day with any castmember.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2016 16:49:56 GMT
WoW, that's just stupid.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2016 17:18:56 GMT
Awful policy. Hope the backlash changes it.
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Post by ctas on Aug 30, 2016 21:54:55 GMT
I think this has been blown out of proportion, and the original tweet had already been deleted. It's unofficial/semiofficial policy at several shows to not advertise in advance (and this gets dropped very often) so maybe a reminder happened? I don't think it's as dramatic as Twitter is making it out to be, although it is silly to try ban. Various other shows have similar policies.
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Post by hitmewithurbethshot on Aug 30, 2016 23:02:50 GMT
Bit of a stab in the dark, but maybe it's to do with the safety of the performers? I suppose making understudy dates publicly available tells people when certain actors are going to be out of the house/on holiday all week, same reason why people are advised to not post when they're going on holiday on Facebook, or potential thieves know when the house is empty and can rob it. Just a thought, not sure how valid 😄
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Post by Kim_Bahorel on Aug 31, 2016 0:06:21 GMT
It's something that appears to have started since the cast change. I'm a fan of going to see the covers. I was the one who asked Jonny about his Enjolras dates. Mostly I wanted to see what he was like as Enj but mostly because one if the swings covers. I've guessed that was on occassion I'd tweet one about covering who would post but delete the post.
However Jeremy recently posted his holiday dates. Which is really not making any sense.
Also Eva posted about the situation being complicated while Adam P posted a short while ago about following West End Covers who for the last 6hours have retweeted everyones dismay.
Before Jonny deleted his post I tagged it in a comment via my fan page for one of the swings. He retweeted it then deleted it.
It's very weird.
But I have tickets until December. After that If I can't find out if my faves are covering. I'm not going to be able to go.
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Post by daisypages on Aug 31, 2016 0:30:43 GMT
This all does seem weird. I remember Hollie O'Donoghue revealing her Eponine dates on Twitter early on in their run, as well as Sophie Reeves telling a few fans that she was on for Fantine in early August. It's been quiet since then, though. I wonder why.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2016 22:43:47 GMT
Saw this tonight. I will never get tired of this show. This was my 4th time in London. Add to that several visits when it toured Spain.
Great cast. Hollie and Jonny played Eponine and Enjolras tonight. They were great. Jeremy Secomb was on fire! Best Javert I've ever seen. Rachelle Ann Go is just perfection. And Craig Mather was really good (and he's super cute btw).
Peter Lockyer is now my second favorite Valjean. Gerónimo Rauch is still the best for me. I'm sure JOJ was fantastic but I've never seen him as Valjean (had the privilige of seeing him in Phantom tho, and it was orgasmic).
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Post by Dave25 on Sept 7, 2016 12:27:10 GMT
JOJ was the best Valjean in my opinion. Pure perfection in every way. I wish he was in the film version. That would have been a highlight in the history of musical-filmmaking. I feel that JOJ has a very filmic finesse, which focuses on the small details. Hugh Jackman was way too theatrical and loud.
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Post by ali973 on Sept 9, 2016 18:45:54 GMT
Guys, does anyone know if Rachelle and/or Eva will be off next week? I just saw Rachelle's Instagram and looks like she's in Paris. I booked to see this in advance because I just want to see these two girls sing their faces off. If anyone is in the know, pass the knowledge!
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Post by zak97 on Sept 9, 2016 21:02:37 GMT
Guys, does anyone know if Rachelle and/or Eva will be off next week? I just saw Rachelle's Instagram and looks like she's in Paris. I booked to see this in advance because I just want to see these two girls sing their faces off. If anyone is in the know, pass the knowledge! I think they've both been off this week, or both extremely recently, so I would imagine they would be back on next week.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2016 0:36:33 GMT
Rachelle was in Paris 2 weeks ago. She's been on as Fantine this week, Saw her on Tuesday. Eva's been off this week.
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Post by ali973 on Sept 15, 2016 22:19:27 GMT
Saw this tonight and thought it was fabulous (as ever?). I've seen it so many times over the years (teens, 20s, 30s, mid-30s!), and I have to say it was very tight and well done. Standby Valjean was good, Rachelle Ann Go was gorgeous as Fantine, and Eva has a British accent. All in all fabulous, powerful and a stunning orchestra.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2016 22:25:23 GMT
Saw this tonight and thought it was fabulous (as ever?). I've seen it so many times over the years (teens, 20s, 30s, mid-30s!), and I have to say it was very tight and well done. Standby Valjean was good, Rachelle Ann Go was gorgeous as Fantine, and Eva has a British accent. All in all fabulous, powerful and a stunning orchestra. What did you think of Jeremy Secomb? He's so good!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2016 22:26:57 GMT
Btw, I'm glad you got to see Rachelle and Eva as you wanted!
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Post by ali973 on Sept 15, 2016 22:33:43 GMT
Thanks! Jeremy was good, gives a very intense performance. A bit shouty, but overall a rather bombastic performance.
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Post by chrisorsomething on Sept 16, 2016 3:00:17 GMT
I was there Wednesday night (centre of row C, stalls, £45 from TKTS bought at 2pm).
I should just preface this review by outing myself as a massive fan of this show - it is my favourite musical - so if I seem hung up on any minutae then I do apologise! I have seen the West End production in excess of fifty times, including every cast for the last 15 years and the tour three times, and this performance truly ranked up there among the very best of them. So much so that I'm bothering to review it! Because of this, I'm going to focus on the cast and performance rather than the material which obviously has been covered a zillion times.
I last saw the show in Jeremy Secomb and Rachelle Ann Go's second week and came away somewhat disappointed, in truth. They were clearly still finding their feet and the show felt a bit lacking, despite outstanding performances from Carrie Hope Fletcher (who I luckily got to finally see before she left - she'd been off every visit prior) and the outrageously good Enjolras, Bradley Jaden.
What an absolutely outstanding performance I attended - and on a matinee day! The cast (and audience) were absolutely electric - the cast were feeding off the audience and the whole thing - from the Prologue onwards - never slipped in quality or intensity, which is rare for this particular show.
The Good:
Adam Bayjou covers Wednesday nights and makes an excellent Valjean. Whilst vocally he is strong enough, but nowhere near many before him, his acting choices are exactly how I love the role to be played. He plays the role with calmness, pathos and humanity and never once feels as though he is trying too hard with the whole saintly analogy. He is, from memory without checking all my programmes etc, the only Valjean I've seen NOT to do the 'Valjean'/Colm Wilkinson 'voice'. He simply sings the role in his natural (London?) accent which is such a breath of fresh air. His solo highlights were an electric Soliloquy and Who Am I, but he was at his absolute best when NOT singing out full belt. For example, he actually THINKS about the words in 'The Well'. He even cracks a smile when greeting Cosette ("Don't cry, show me where you live") something I don't think I've ever seen before. And then when meeting the Thènardiers, he quietly explains to the Thènardiers that Fantine has died, rather than belting it at them at full volume;
(quietly) "Now her mother is with God"
*beat - Mme. Thènardier looks confused and mouths "I don't understand"*
"...*gesturing towards Cosette*... Fantine's *beat while he searches for the right word* suffering is over"
*Mme. Thènardier "gets" it*
It's these small touches which add humanity to the character, rather than just an actor singing the lines as powerfully as they can without thinking about the scene. He has a couple more lovely moments like this, such as in the Final Confrontation, "look DOWN, Javert, he's standing in his grave". It's hard to describe but it's truly as though each word he sings has actually been considered for its inflection, meaning and intensity. Sometimes less is more and Bayjou nails it. I suppose the opposite of this type of Valjean would be Simon Bowman, David Shannon, Mike Sterling - that kind of extremely melodramatic performance.
Rachelle Ann Go has improved immeasurably since my last visit. Her "I Dreamed a Dream" is beautifully sung and her death genuinely brought a tear. Really helped by having a reactive Valjean, their chemistry was absolutely lovely. Definitely in the top percent of Fantine's I've ever seen, with Celinde Schoenmaker and Carmen Cusack.
The Thènardiers (David Langham and Katy Secombe) are over the top, hammy and hilarious. Loved the new Master of the House direction as it is a scene in which I usually switch off. He is certainly a comic type of Thénardier, more alike Stephen Tate or someone like that than a nasty one like Ashley Artus or Barry James.
Craig Mather looks and sounds awfully like Rob Houchen before him and he obviously fits the current vogue of casting this part. Young, blonde, handsome and vocally adequate. His performance is strong and feels sincere though. It's a shame I've only seen him in two incredibly wet roles (Marius and Anthony in Sweeney Todd) as he probably has more in his locker.
I really wasn't sure about Johnny Purchase, covering Enjolras, but I grew to rather like him as the performance went on. He initially had a bit of an understudy 'feel' about him, (ill fitting wig, vocally quite safe) but again, impressed with his acting more than anything. He really felt like the leader of the students, his diction was great and had lovely interaction with Grantaire and Marius. He had a quite annoying vocal habit on longer notes though which I sort of got used to "before we cut the fat ones down to sooooooize, before the barricades arrooooooooooize". It's unusual as singers are taught to make an 'ah' sound and on both of these words with an 'ah' sound he makes an 'oh' sound. Weird. Still, I ended up quite liking him!
Eva Noblezada sings with an attempt at a cockney accent. Now, I say attempt because it takes a real tour around Europe, North America and Australia to reach the East End. She has a strange habit of screwing her face up and looking like a bratty teen who isn't getting her own way (she also did this as Kim in Miss Saigon). Vocally, she clips notes short and, probably hindered by the accent, makes some weird vowel sounds which sound like she's gurgling. Then "On My Own" and "Little Fall of Rain" happen and all is forgiven. The former feels as polished and perfect as though she's been singing it in front of a mirror for 15 years, it's powerful, she DOESN'T cheat the finale and 'pretending', and earnt a rapturous ovation. No sign of the strange accent to be found, she sings it beautifully. A Little Fall of Rain likewise, and she actually acts this well. At the interval I was ready to 'rank' her in my mind as one of the poorest I'd seen.
The less good:
Zoë Doano is a bit annoying as Cosette (I know they all normally are, but she was noteworthy for it), she singing is a bit too shrill and shrieky for my tastes and she only has one expression. BUT, she had some nice moments at the end of 'In My Life' with Valjean, but I feel this is perhaps despite her rather than because.
The kid playing Gavroche... not good. Weak voice, bad diction, seemed extremely nervous (is he new? Little blond lad) and couldn't even throw the bullet bag high enough - pah)
Adam Pearce is very, very distracting with his over-the-top gurning and improvisation. His Bamatabois is just about tolerable as it suits the character, but he does it as EVERY character and it's so noticeable because he has such a distinctive face. I'm sure he's a lovely bloke, etc, etc, and it's nothing personal but I really wish he'd just fall in line and stop trying to upstage all of the time. I remember hating his Thénardier too.
The absolutely bloody fantastic:
Jeremy Secomb is a force as Javert. When I saw him just after he started I was a little disappointed in earnest. He had been great as Sweeney Todd and I'd seen his Phantom a few times over the years and loved it each time. He seemed to be acting within himself and playing it very cautious. Well, all that has changed! He completely dominates the stage every time he's on it. His Stars brought the house down and was the highlight of the whole evening. He was absolutely manic by the suicide without ever becoming cartoonish or ridiculous (I'm looking at you Jerome Pradon). I really can't rave about him enough. It is true that he barks most of his lines - which can make him come off a bit shouty ala Philip Quast/Mike McCarthy/Earl Carpenter but it is so appropriate for his characterisation. He was completely in the moment and the audience were rapt.
Also a special word for the audience, who were absolutely electric. A spontaneous standing ovation on the final 'One Day More' happened around me, which I have never experienced before the lights have come up for the curtain call. I can't wait to go back, the only thing is, if I do it will probably disappoint.
I've seen this show at death's door (circa 2004 with Sean Kingsley as Valjean) playing to bored 2/3 full houses and rumours of closure. It's had dips and highs, as all long-runners do, but right now is the best it has been since John Owen-Jones/Hans Peter Janssens over ten years ago. If you ever needed an excuse to go back, now is the time.
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Post by chrismis on Sept 16, 2016 10:32:26 GMT
I was there Wednesday night (centre of row C, stalls, £45 from TKTS bought at 2pm). I should just preface this review by outing myself as a massive fan of this show - it is my favourite musical - so if I seem hung up on any minutae then I do apologise! I have seen the West End production in excess of fifty times, including every cast for the last 15 years and the tour three times, and this performance truly ranked up there among the very best of them. So much so that I'm bothering to review it! Because of this, I'm going to focus on the cast and performance rather than the material which obviously has been covered a zillion times. I last saw the show in Jeremy Secomb and Rachelle Ann Go's second week and came away somewhat disappointed, in truth. They were clearly still finding their feet and the show felt a bit lacking, despite outstanding performances from Carrie Hope Fletcher (who I luckily got to finally see before she left - she'd been off every visit prior) and the outrageously good Enjolras, Bradley Jaden. What an absolutely outstanding performance I attended - and on a matinee day! The cast (and audience) were absolutely electric - the cast were feeding off the audience and the whole thing - from the Prologue onwards - never slipped in quality or intensity, which is rare for this particular show. The Good: Adam Bayjou covers Wednesday nights and makes an excellent Valjean. Whilst vocally he is strong enough, but nowhere near many before him, his acting choices are exactly how I love the role to be played. He plays the role with calmness, pathos and humanity and never once feels as though he is trying too hard with the whole saintly analogy. He is, from memory without checking all my programmes etc, the only Valjean I've seen NOT to do the 'Valjean'/Colm Wilkinson 'voice'. He simply sings the role in his natural (London?) accent which is such a breath of fresh air. His solo highlights were an electric Soliloquy and Who Am I, but he was at his absolute best when NOT singing out full belt. For example, he actually THINKS about the words in 'The Well'. He even cracks a smile when greeting Cosette ("Don't cry, show me where you live") something I don't think I've ever seen before. And then when meeting the Thènardiers, he quietly explains to the Thènardiers that Fantine has died, rather than belting it at them at full volume; (quietly) "Now her mother is with God" *beat - Mme. Thènardier looks confused and mouths "I don't understand"* "...*gesturing towards Cosette*... Fantine's *beat while he searches for the right word* suffering is over" *Mme. Thènardier "gets" it* It's these small touches which add humanity to the character, rather than just an actor singing the lines as powerfully as they can without thinking about the scene. He has a couple more lovely moments like this, such as in the Final Confrontation, "look DOWN, Javert, he's standing in his grave". It's hard to describe but it's truly as though each word he sings has actually been considered for its inflection, meaning and intensity. Sometimes less is more and Bayjou nails it. I suppose the opposite of this type of Valjean would be Simon Bowman, David Shannon, Mike Sterling - that kind of extremely melodramatic performance. Rachelle Ann Go has improved immeasurably since my last visit. Her "I Dreamed a Dream" is beautifully sung and her death genuinely brought a tear. Really helped by having a reactive Valjean, their chemistry was absolutely lovely. Definitely in the top percent of Fantine's I've ever seen, with Celinde Schoenmaker and Carmen Cusack. The Thènardiers (David Langham and Katy Secombe) are over the top, hammy and hilarious. Loved the new Master of the House direction as it is a scene in which I usually switch off. He is certainly a comic type of Thénardier, more alike Stephen Tate or someone like that than a nasty one like Ashley Artus or Barry James. Craig Mather looks and sounds awfully like Rob Houchen before him and he obviously fits the current vogue of casting this part. Young, blonde, handsome and vocally adequate. His performance is strong and feels sincere though. It's a shame I've only seen him in two incredibly wet roles (Marius and Anthony in Sweeney Todd) as he probably has more in his locker. I really wasn't sure about Johnny Purchase, covering Enjolras, but I grew to rather like him as the performance went on. He initially had a bit of an understudy 'feel' about him, (ill fitting wig, vocally quite safe) but again, impressed with his acting more than anything. He really felt like the leader of the students, his diction was great and had lovely interaction with Grantaire and Marius. He had a quite annoying vocal habit on longer notes though which I sort of got used to "before we cut the fat ones down to sooooooize, before the barricades arrooooooooooize". It's unusual as singers are taught to make an 'ah' sound and on both of these words with an 'ah' sound he makes an 'oh' sound. Weird. Still, I ended up quite liking him! Eva Noblezada sings with an attempt at a cockney accent. Now, I say attempt because it takes a real tour around Europe, North America and Australia to reach the East End. She has a strange habit of screwing her face up and looking like a bratty teen who isn't getting her own way (she also did this as Kim in Miss Saigon). Vocally, she clips notes short and, probably hindered by the accent, makes some weird vowel sounds which sound like she's gurgling. Then "On My Own" and "Little Fall of Rain" happen and all is forgiven. The former feels as polished and perfect as though she's been singing it in front of a mirror for 15 years, it's powerful, she DOESN'T cheat the finale and 'pretending', and earnt a rapturous ovation. No sign of the strange accent to be found, she sings it beautifully. A Little Fall of Rain likewise, and she actually acts this well. At the interval I was ready to 'rank' her in my mind as one of the poorest I'd seen. The less good: Zoë Doano is a bit annoying as Cosette (I know they all normally are, but she was noteworthy for it), she singing is a bit too shrill and shrieky for my tastes and she only has one expression. BUT, she had some nice moments at the end of 'In My Life' with Valjean, but I feel this is perhaps despite her rather than because. The kid playing Gavroche... not good. Weak voice, bad diction, seemed extremely nervous (is he new? Little blond lad) and couldn't even throw the bullet bag high enough - pah) Adam Pearce is very, very distracting with his over-the-top gurning and improvisation. His Bamatabois is just about tolerable as it suits the character, but he does it as EVERY character and it's so noticeable because he has such a distinctive face. I'm sure he's a lovely bloke, etc, etc, and it's nothing personal but I really wish he'd just fall in line and stop trying to upstage all of the time. I remember hating his Thénardier too. The absolutely bloody fantastic: Jeremy Secomb is a force as Javert. When I saw him just after he started I was a little disappointed in earnest. He had been great as Sweeney Todd and I'd seen his Phantom a few times over the years and loved it each time. He seemed to be acting within himself and playing it very cautious. Well, all that has changed! He completely dominates the stage every time he's on it. His Stars brought the house down and was the highlight of the whole evening. He was absolutely manic by the suicide without ever becoming cartoonish or ridiculous (I'm looking at you Jerome Pradon). I really can't rave about him enough. It is true that he barks most of his lines - which can make him come off a bit shouty ala Philip Quast/Mike McCarthy/Earl Carpenter but it is so appropriate for his characterisation. He was completely in the moment and the audience were rapt. Also a special word for the audience, who were absolutely electric. A spontaneous standing ovation on the final 'One Day More' happened around me, which I have never experienced before the lights have come up for the curtain call. I can't wait to go back, the only thing is, if I do it will probably disappoint. I've seen this show at death's door (circa 2004 with Sean Kingsley as Valjean) playing to bored 2/3 full houses and rumours of closure. It's had dips and highs, as all long-runners do, but right now is the best it has been since John Owen-Jones/Hans Peter Janssens over ten years ago. If you ever needed an excuse to go back, now is the time. What a fantastic review! I agree with just about everything you've said. Just one slight correction, Adam Bayjou covers JVJ every Monday night now and is on for the rest of this week. I posted on page 9 of this thread about his performance. He really is very impressive and I've been back several times to see him.
I'm also a big fan of the show having first seen it in 1989 and regularly ever since. This cast is one of the best ever and I agree with everything you said about Jeremy Secomb. He's incredible!
If anyone hasn't seen the show for a while it's worth going now,especially on a Monday night!!!
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Post by daniel on Sept 16, 2016 10:33:54 GMT
^ amazing review, so glad you enjoyed it so much and thanks for taking the time to write up your thoughts!
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