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Post by ali973 on Dec 2, 2017 5:43:06 GMT
I agree that the Sunset Boulevard line was totally lost on both crowds I sat through.
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Post by showgirl on Dec 2, 2017 6:06:50 GMT
We know this ain’t going to win the Olivier, Tina Turner: The Musical has got this already. But as I mentioned earlier it is on the corner of Soho, a massive area financially for the pink pound, why wouldn’t a couple in a same sex relationship, not see this and maybe go on to a club or a meal, for a perfect evening out. Being in such a small theatre it could run a bit. Surprised this is doing a midweek and Saturday matinee, I see zero appeal for this from your regular matinee crowd, they should do a early evening and a late night performance on a Friday/Saturday night, we have night tune now. Also do promotions with people like Heaven and other clubs. I see your point Phantom of London of London, but some of us like matinees and I'm certainly hoping to catch one midweek. Though of course the longevity of the show is what counts. |
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Post by Stephen on Dec 2, 2017 8:12:05 GMT
I agree that the Sunset Boulevard line was totally lost on both crowds I sat through. I know I was shocked! Also worth mentioning how great it was seeing such a mixed crowd on Thursday night! |
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Post by ali973 on Dec 2, 2017 8:14:34 GMT
Speaking of references..I have to say I was pretty impressed with myself for understanding all the very British references..except the person that Pretty refers to as "she was like Beyonce a long time ago." Anyone remind me who she refers to?
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Post by stageyninja83 on Dec 2, 2017 10:29:41 GMT
Speaking of references..I have to say I was pretty impressed with myself for understanding all the very British references..except the person that Pretty refers to as "she was like Beyonce a long time ago." Anyone remind me who she refers to? Emmeline Pankhurst, leader of the suffragette movement. |
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Post by ali973 on Dec 2, 2017 10:40:25 GMT
That's really funny.
Any news on the cast recording?
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Post by kryz1000 on Dec 3, 2017 8:44:40 GMT
I really hope this does well. It deserves to. A ‘proper’ new musical that’s homegrown in every sense and which is confident enough to speak with its own voice rather than trying to emulate what a ‘musical is supposed to be like these days’.
There’s four or five standout performances that make it worth the price of a ticket alone and a really healthy number of showstopping numbers too. Great to see a young debut-heavy cast having a blast.
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Post by zahidf on Dec 3, 2017 12:00:02 GMT
Saw this yesterday: was great i thought. Funny and a lot of heart
I had front row tics fron todaytix: restricted view id say for some songs
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Post by sf on Dec 3, 2017 15:51:25 GMT
Surprised this is doing a midweek and Saturday matinee, I see zero appeal for this from your regular matinee crowd, they should do a early evening and a late night performance on a Friday/Saturday night, we have night tune now. Also do promotions with people like Heaven and other clubs. Night tube? Matinees aren't just for people in London. On a Saturday, the last train from London to where I live is at 9pm. On a weeknight, there's an 11pm train, but it (in theory) doesn't arrive until 2am (it often arrives early). Given that I live 200 miles from London, I manage to see quite a lot - but without matinee performances, I'd have far fewer choices. Staying overnight isn't always an option. And anyway, I saw "...Jamie" at a matinee in Sheffield in February (far closer to home, but still not easy to get back from an evening performance without a car). If the show has "zero appeal" for "your regular matinee crowd", it didn't matter: that performance was completely sold out. |
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Post by Dan213 on Dec 3, 2017 16:01:35 GMT
Surprised this is doing a midweek and Saturday matinee, I see zero appeal for this from your regular matinee crowd, they should do a early evening and a late night performance on a Friday/Saturday night, we have night tune now. Also do promotions with people like Heaven and other clubs. Night tube? Matinees aren't just for people in London. On a Saturday, the last train from London to where I live is at 9pm. On a weeknight, there's an 11pm train, but it (in theory) doesn't arrive until 2am (it often arrives early). Given that I live 200 miles from London, I manage to see quite a lot - but without matinee performances, I'd have far fewer choices. Staying overnight isn't always an option. And anyway, I saw "...Jamie" at a matinee in Sheffield in February (far closer to home, but still not easy to get back from an evening performance without a car). If the show has "zero appeal" for "your regular matinee crowd", it didn't matter: that performance was completely sold out. Agree with this completely. Last train back to Sheffield is at around half 8 so I'm pretty much restricted to seeing a matinee if I go down to London during uni term times. I would have thought this also applies to many of the coach day trips that visit London that usually leave around 7 ish in the evening |
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Dec 3, 2017 16:26:25 GMT
Same here. Can’t get back to Manchester after a Saturday evening performance in London. Last train is at 21:50. Did a matinee a couple of months ago which was a long day but possible when avoiding an expensive overnight stay.
And I also saw Jamie at a matinee and it was full.
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Post by Phantom of London on Dec 4, 2017 4:02:39 GMT
Surprised this is doing a midweek and Saturday matinee, I see zero appeal for this from your regular matinee crowd, they should do a early evening and a late night performance on a Friday/Saturday night, we have night tune now. Also do promotions with people like Heaven and other clubs. Night tube? Matinees aren't just for people in London. On a Saturday, the last train from London to where I live is at 9pm. On a weeknight, there's an 11pm train, but it (in theory) doesn't arrive until 2am (it often arrives early). Given that I live 200 miles from London, I manage to see quite a lot - but without matinee performances, I'd have far fewer choices. Staying overnight isn't always an option. And anyway, I saw "...Jamie" at a matinee in Sheffield in February (far closer to home, but still not easy to get back from an evening performance without a car). If the show has "zero appeal" for "your regular matinee crowd", it didn't matter: that performance was completely sold out. Night tube? Matinees aren't just for people in London. On a Saturday, the last train from London to where I live is at 9pm. On a weeknight, there's an 11pm train, but it (in theory) doesn't arrive until 2am (it often arrives early). Given that I live 200 miles from London, I manage to see quite a lot - but without matinee performances, I'd have far fewer choices. Staying overnight isn't always an option. And anyway, I saw "...Jamie" at a matinee in Sheffield in February (far closer to home, but still not easy to get back from an evening performance without a car). If the show has "zero appeal" for "your regular matinee crowd", it didn't matter: that performance was completely sold out. Agree with this completely. Last train back to Sheffield is at around half 8 so I'm pretty much restricted to seeing a matinee if I go down to London during uni term times. I would have thought this also applies to many of the coach day trips that visit London that usually leave around 7 ish in the evening Same here. Can’t get back to Manchester after a Saturday evening performance in London. Last train is at 21:50. Did a matinee a couple of months ago which was a long day but possible when avoiding an expensive overnight stay. And I also saw Jamie at a matinee and it was full. The last train back to Sheffield isn’t 8:30 and that isn’t even without looking it up. I have the same problem when I go up north, this is resolved by booking a hotel room for the night, it isn’t expensive and I do this knowing I don’t have as much choice and the standard is no where as good as London. |
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Post by HereForTheatre on Dec 4, 2017 9:29:17 GMT
I never knew going to a matinee was such a controversial action!
I'm glad that at least some people have enough money they can book a hotel everytime they want to see something away from their home town.
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Post by Dan213 on Dec 4, 2017 9:46:31 GMT
Night tube? Matinees aren't just for people in London. On a Saturday, the last train from London to where I live is at 9pm. On a weeknight, there's an 11pm train, but it (in theory) doesn't arrive until 2am (it often arrives early). Given that I live 200 miles from London, I manage to see quite a lot - but without matinee performances, I'd have far fewer choices. Staying overnight isn't always an option. And anyway, I saw "...Jamie" at a matinee in Sheffield in February (far closer to home, but still not easy to get back from an evening performance without a car). If the show has "zero appeal" for "your regular matinee crowd", it didn't matter: that performance was completely sold out. Agree with this completely. Last train back to Sheffield is at around half 8 so I'm pretty much restricted to seeing a matinee if I go down to London during uni term times. I would have thought this also applies to many of the coach day trips that visit London that usually leave around 7 ish in the evening Same here. Can’t get back to Manchester after a Saturday evening performance in London. Last train is at 21:50. Did a matinee a couple of months ago which was a long day but possible when avoiding an expensive overnight stay. And I also saw Jamie at a matinee and it was full. The last train back to Sheffield isn’t 8:30 and that isn’t even without looking it up. I have the same problem when I go up north, this is resolved by booking a hotel room for the night, it isn’t expensive and I do this knowing I don’t have as much choice and the standard is no where as good as London. Sorry was only 26 minutes out it’s 20:56. Not everyone can afford to book a hotel on top of a train ticket |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2017 11:39:19 GMT
Sorry was only 26 minutes out it’s 20:56. Not everyone can afford to book a hotel on top of a train ticket And I seem to recall that Phantom has a free travel pass for the railway whereas the rest of us would have to risk hiding in toilets. |
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Post by sf on Dec 4, 2017 12:42:39 GMT
The last train back to Sheffield isn’t 8:30 and that isn’t even without looking it up. I have the same problem when I go up north, this is resolved by booking a hotel room for the night, it isn’t expensive and I do this knowing I don’t have as much choice and the standard is no where as good as London. I don't suppose it has occurred to you - no, scratch that, of course it hasn't occurred to you - that there may be reasons why, quite apart from the cost, people are unable to be away from home overnight regularly? |
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Post by Phantom of London on Dec 4, 2017 14:43:34 GMT
The last train back to Sheffield isn’t 8:30 and that isn’t even without looking it up. I have the same problem when I go up north, this is resolved by booking a hotel room for the night, it isn’t expensive and I do this knowing I don’t have as much choice and the standard is no where as good as London. Sorry was only 26 minutes out it’s 20:56. Not everyone can afford to book a hotel on top of a train ticket Sorry was only 26 minutes out it’s 20:56. Not everyone can afford to book a hotel on top of a train ticket And I seem to recall that Phantom has a free travel pass for the railway whereas the rest of us would have to risk hiding in toilets. The last train back to Sheffield isn’t 8:30 and that isn’t even without looking it up. I have the same problem when I go up north, this is resolved by booking a hotel room for the night, it isn’t expensive and I do this knowing I don’t have as much choice and the standard is no where as good as London. I don't suppose it has occurred to you - no, scratch that, of course it hasn't occurred to you - that there may be reasons why, quite apart from the cost, people are unable to be away from home overnight regularly? There is a train back to Sheffield at 22:26 tonight. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2017 14:46:57 GMT
There is a train back to Sheffield at 22:26 tonight. Discussion was about Saturdays. And 22:26 is no use for most evening performances anyway. |
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Post by TallPaul on Dec 4, 2017 14:49:20 GMT
Which is still too early for the majority of West End performances, plus it doesn't arrive in Sheffield until 01:04, after taking 2 hours 39 minutes to complete a journey that can be done in just under 2. (And it departs at 22:25 on weekdays. The 22:26 service on Saturdays terminates at Derby.)
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Post by Phantom of London on Dec 4, 2017 14:50:09 GMT
Sorry was only 26 minutes out it’s 20:56. Not everyone can afford to book a hotel on top of a train ticket And I seem to recall that Phantom has a free travel pass for the railway whereas the rest of us would have to risk hiding in toilets. It’s called a Priv ticket and gives me 75% off anywhere in the country, also being a manager I’m intitled to 4x48hr of free travel. The last train back to Sheffield isn’t 8:30 and that isn’t even without looking it up. I have the same problem when I go up north, this is resolved by booking a hotel room for the night, it isn’t expensive and I do this knowing I don’t have as much choice and the standard is no where as good as London. I don't suppose it has occurred to you - no, scratch that, of course it hasn't occurred to you - that there may be reasons why, quite apart from the cost, people are unable to be away from home overnight regularly? If the show is closed because it hasn’t found its audience, you’re not got to see the matinee either, also an earlier evening performance will facilitate getting trains home, thinking at 6pm and 9pm. But you point out you can stay out overnight and I doubt your circumstances stops you from staying out overnight, if you love the art form so much, book into a hotel. |
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Post by HereForTheatre on Dec 4, 2017 14:52:25 GMT
I'm ever so slightly confused why people are having to explain themselves and go into the details of why they sometimes see a Matinee and not evening performances. What a ridiculous situation.
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Post by stevej678 on Dec 4, 2017 15:20:27 GMT
Looking at ticket availability on Nimax's website, sales for the matinees look no different to evening performances.
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Post by Dan213 on Dec 4, 2017 15:31:01 GMT
Sorry was only 26 minutes out it’s 20:56. Not everyone can afford to book a hotel on top of a train ticket And I seem to recall that Phantom has a free travel pass for the railway whereas the rest of us would have to risk hiding in toilets. I don't suppose it has occurred to you - no, scratch that, of course it hasn't occurred to you - that there may be reasons why, quite apart from the cost, people are unable to be away from home overnight regularly? There is a train back to Sheffield at 22:26 tonight. You are aware that's not a valid train right? It takes you to Derby where you have to wait until 11:00am the next morning for a connection. The last train that gets you back in under 10 hours is the 20:56 so my point stands about matinee performances. Please check your facts before posting... |
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Post by sf on Dec 4, 2017 16:55:26 GMT
I don't suppose it has occurred to you - no, scratch that, of course it hasn't occurred to you - that there may be reasons why, quite apart from the cost, people are unable to be away from home overnight regularly? If the show is closed because it hasn’t found its audience, you’re not got to see the matinee either, also an earlier evening performance will facilitate getting trains home, thinking at 6pm and 9pm. But you point out you can stay out overnight and I doubt your circumstances stops you from staying out overnight, if you love the art form so much, book into a hotel. Good grief. Actually - and I'm not going to go into too many details because it's none of your damn business, but apparently you're incapable of understanding that adults sometimes have responsibilities beyond themselves - for the greater part of this year and a big chunk of last year my circumstances did prevent me from being away overnight on anything other than a very occasional basis. When you are, for example, the main caregiver for a family member who is (or rather, was - thank God, temporarily) disabled as a result of a serious illness, you have to put their needs first. If you have children, you have to put their needs first. If you have pets, you have to put their needs first. Their needs may very well preclude frequent overnight absences. Actually, never mind overnight. There were quite a few weeks this year where I couldn't leave the house at all unless there was someone here in my place. Fortunately I work from home. It isn't simply a question of "if you love the art form so much". It's about give and take, and balancing my needs with someone else's. If that's a lesson you've never had to learn, you are either very lucky, or very selfish, or very stupid. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2017 17:16:00 GMT
I re-watched the documentary last night, Fifi’s dress for the prom was very glam indeed! What is touching is just how many fellow students and parents rallied round to overthrow the school’s decision to refuse her entry.
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