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Post by Phantom of London on Jun 21, 2017 20:36:40 GMT
I haven't seen the show or heard any of the Cast Recording, so would it be fair to say that this is the British version of Hedwig?
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Jun 21, 2017 20:37:07 GMT
Wouldn't normally be for me, but Tamsin Carroll is in the cast so she will most likely draw me in. Who does she play? She's a fine performer, but I thought grossly miscast as Ellen against Alisdair's Chris. The schoolteacher who wants all the kids to get into "safe" jobs at any cost. Not quite the villain but not a sympathetic character either. |
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Post by Dan213 on Jun 21, 2017 20:37:43 GMT
Wouldn't normally be for me, but Tamsin Carroll is in the cast so she will most likely draw me in. Who does she play? She's a fine performer, but I thought grossly miscast as Ellen against Alisdair's Chris. She plays a teacher so is quite well cast in my opinion |
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Post by Dan213 on Jun 21, 2017 20:39:07 GMT
I hope the show itself comes across better than the cast recording.. the score sounds very poor on that. The concept album was produced a fair few months before the show opened and there were quite a few changes in the actual production. Would be nice to see a proper cast recording |
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Post by HereForTheatre on Jun 21, 2017 20:43:06 GMT
Here's an official video of a filmed performance of a song/scene from the show
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Post by Deleted on Jun 21, 2017 21:48:22 GMT
Wouldn't normally be for me, but Tamsin Carroll is in the cast so she will most likely draw me in. Who does she play? She's a fine performer, but I thought grossly miscast as Ellen against Alisdair's Chris. Not miscast at all, for the first time the story completely made sense. She was terrific. |
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Post by showtoones on Jun 21, 2017 22:01:32 GMT
I thought Siobhan faired better but it's a terrible role....Ellen is the Cosette of the piece...where Kim is the Eponine.
I want to smack Cosette in the face..good god, get a grip girl.
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Post by d'James on Jun 21, 2017 22:05:40 GMT
Who does she play? She's a fine performer, but I thought grossly miscast as Ellen against Alisdair's Chris. Not miscast at all, for the first time the story completely made sense. She was terrific. I didn't think she was great, but I've only seen her on the DVD. Maybe live she was better. |
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Post by ali973 on Jun 22, 2017 2:47:33 GMT
She's a great actress. But her voice is too classically trained for this rather poppy-score. We can argue about singing, but I think we can all agree she looked much older than the leading man. Siobhan was the best IMO, and at this point I think I've seen six of them.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2017 3:35:36 GMT
I haven't seen the show or heard any of the Cast Recording, so would it be fair to say that this is the British version of Hedwig? Absolutely not! This is a beautiful heartfelt and uplifting story. Just you wait, you're in for treat! |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2017 3:39:29 GMT
She's a great actress. But her voice is too classically trained for this rather poppy-score. We can argue about singing, but I think we can all agree she looked much older than the leading man. Siobhan was the best IMO, and at this point I think I've seen six of them. The fact she was older was exactly why it worked. He's gone through trauma in Saigon, returns to US and marries someone who is capable of taking care of him. He has a child with a 17 yr old girl. Maybe Ellen isn't able to give him a child. FGS theatre is more interesting when representation isn't predictable. And the role, like any role in a Musical isn't just about singing! |
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Post by ali973 on Jun 22, 2017 3:59:07 GMT
You really put a lot of effort into making her casting work for you. Well, I'm glad it worked for you. But nah, not convinced.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2017 4:33:59 GMT
You really put a lot of effort into making her casting work for you. Well, I'm glad it worked for you. But nah, not convinced. Yep, it really worked for me and I saw virtually every Ellen during the 10yr run at Drury Lane. Sorry it didn't work for you though. Never mind. BTW don't patronise me by saying I had to put a lot of effort in. I could retaliate but am not prepared to stoop so low. Sister Mary Ann will say a Hail Mary for you. |
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Post by ali973 on Jun 22, 2017 4:57:49 GMT
You do that. And I'll pray that Sister Mary Ann gets laid.
Bitchery aside- which is always something I love and encourage, I think we can agree that we're looking forward to seeing her in Jamie? Yes? Yes.
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Post by anita on Jun 22, 2017 9:39:47 GMT
Haven't read back through what everyone else has said so I don't know if I'm repeating what you already know but This show is now listed as taking part in West End Live.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2017 10:27:54 GMT
She's a great actress. But her voice is too classically trained for this rather poppy-score. We can argue about singing, but I think we can all agree she looked much older than the leading man. Siobhan was the best IMO, and at this point I think I've seen six of them. The fact she was older was exactly why it worked. He's gone through trauma in Saigon, returns to US and marries someone who is capable of taking care of him. He has a child with a 17 yr old girl. Maybe Ellen isn't able to give him a child. FGS theatre is more interesting when representation isn't predictable. And the role, like any role in a Musical isn't just about singing! Nobody's talking about Jamie. |
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Post by TallPaul on Jun 22, 2017 12:39:58 GMT
Four things I learnt from t'wireless yesterday afternoon:
1. Demand for water increases in hot weather.
2. 11,000 people saw the run of Everybody's Talking at the Crucible.
3. Nica Burns decided she should try and become involved after listening to the other women in the queue for the toilets during the interval.
4. There will probably be a tour either during or after the London run, which will almost certainly start in Sheffield, but at the Lyceum.
Then, perhaps just for Ryan, the presenter played our Martine's new single.
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Jun 22, 2017 12:58:14 GMT
Simultaneous tour? That seems a bit unlikely surely?
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Post by TallPaul on Jun 22, 2017 13:04:12 GMT
Simultaneous tour? That seems a bit unlikely surely? I have to admit, I thought that too, but it's definitely what Dan Bates, the Chief Executive of Sheffield Theatres, said. I suppose he's being optimistic and hoping it will run in London for years.
And don't call me Shirley!!!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2017 13:22:47 GMT
You do that. And I'll pray that Sister Mary Ann gets laid. Bitchery aside- which is always something I love and encourage, I think we can agree that we're looking forward to seeing her in Jamie? Yes? Yes. It's so easy on here to be bitchy about performers and remain anonymous. If you met an actor on the street and don't have the balls to say to their face what you can so easily post on here, then why say it here? I think you have to tread with caution, even on sites like this as a lot of industry people may look in from time to time and imagine how you would feel reading negative stuff about yourself? |
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Jun 22, 2017 14:48:03 GMT
You do that. And I'll pray that Sister Mary Ann gets laid. Bitchery aside- which is always something I love and encourage, I think we can agree that we're looking forward to seeing her in Jamie? Yes? Yes. It's so easy on here to be bitchy about performers and remain anonymous. If you met an actor on the street and don't have the balls to say to their face what you can so easily post on here, then why say it here?I think you have to tread with caution, even on sites like this as a lot of industry people may look in from time to time and imagine how you would feel reading negative stuff about yourself? Bumped into Maranda Hart in the street recently, Sister? Hope not! Preach!  |
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Post by stevej678 on Jun 22, 2017 14:56:23 GMT
It's so easy on here to be bitchy about performers and remain anonymous. If you met an actor on the street and don't have the balls to say to their face what you can so easily post on here, then why say it here? Michelle Collins, Martin Kemp, Phil Jupitus and Jason Manford kicked the tour off. I stand by what I said - they were AWFUL in Southampton. Those four were 50% of the principals and none of them were up to it! I trust that you spoke to poor Michelle, Martin, Phil and Jason to tell them how hopeless they were? If not, I can only hope that if they read your remarks on here then they're not too crushed. |
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Post by ali973 on Jun 22, 2017 15:15:11 GMT
You do that. And I'll pray that Sister Mary Ann gets laid. Bitchery aside- which is always something I love and encourage, I think we can agree that we're looking forward to seeing her in Jamie? Yes? Yes. It's so easy on here to be bitchy about performers and remain anonymous. If you met an actor on the street and don't have the balls to say to their face what you can so easily post on here, then why say it here? I think you have to tread with caution, even on sites like this as a lot of industry people may look in from time to time and imagine how you would feel reading negative stuff about yourself? When I said bitchery, I was being bitchy with you. On Tamsin, I said she was miscast in Miss Saigon, and I said she sounds like a good fit in Jamie, and I think I made it clear that I do not dislike her. Secondly, I'm not anonymous at all. My picture is up, and my name is Ali as the profile indicates. Clearly you're more interested in being confrontational instead of talking shows. Later. |
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Post by d'James on Jun 22, 2017 16:19:31 GMT
You do that. And I'll pray that Sister Mary Ann gets laid. Bitchery aside- which is always something I love and encourage, I think we can agree that we're looking forward to seeing her in Jamie? Yes? Yes. It's so easy on here to be bitchy about performers and remain anonymous. If you met an actor on the street and don't have the balls to say to their face what you can so easily post on here, then why say it here? I think you have to tread with caution, even on sites like this as a lot of industry people may look in from time to time and imagine how you would feel reading negative stuff about yourself? I couldn't disagree more. It seems a modern phenomenon (I blame it on Big Brother) that people somehow think to tell people negative things about them should be said directly to their face. That's not what I want and it's not how I was brought up to treat others. I think this is absolutely the place to discuss whether a performer is correctly cast or miscast. If they choose to read this forum, then they must know it's a risk that the might not like what they see. None of that is bitchy anyway. |
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Post by TallPaul on Jun 23, 2017 13:47:29 GMT
Meanwhile, thanks are due to @theatremonkey . No pressure or anything, but solely on your recommendation, I've just booked stall seat X6. If there's a cubbyhole for my bag, I shall have to buy one!!"
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