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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2017 13:07:21 GMT
All five bids from the UK have been excluded from consideration by the European Commission.
Brexit means Brexit.
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Post by Someone in a tree on Nov 24, 2017 13:13:05 GMT
Brexit means I am ashamed to be British
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2017 13:21:01 GMT
But to be fair to the European Commission, the five bids were Grimsby, Rhyl, Kilmarnock, Middlesborough and Basingstoke.
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Post by bimse on Nov 24, 2017 13:23:44 GMT
All five bids from the UK have been excluded from consideration by the European Commission. Brexit means Brexit. No doubt Britain will have made a financial contribution towards this project , which makes me wonder if the European Commission have any right to exclude British bids (I’ve read a report that bids are open to cities outside the EU anyway ?) . Or are they going to reimburse us that contribution ? Either way they should not have accepted bids in the first place , several British cities have wasted large sums on this. |
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Post by viserys on Nov 24, 2017 13:23:51 GMT
It's daft and petty really.
I mean Istanbul was "European Capital of Culture" in 2010 and it's not even fully in Europe, nor is Turkey anywhere near EU-membership. Reykjavik (Iceland), Bergen and Stavanger (Norway) have been Capitals of Culture too despite both countries, Norway especially, constantly turning up their noses at EU membership.
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Post by bimse on Nov 24, 2017 13:35:34 GMT
Brexit means I am ashamed to be British Giving tax payers money to satisfy the unreasonable demands and vanity projects of unelected foreign Bureaucrats makes me ashamed to be British . We signed up to the common market , not a federal expansionist Europe . I read just yesterday that back then senior ministers were warning of the federal ambitions and the chances of national governments being eventually ruled by unelected bureaucrats , these warnings were covered up. The so called elected European Parliament is just a front , no notice whatsoever is taken of this so called Parliament . |
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Post by bimse on Nov 24, 2017 13:37:44 GMT
It's daft and petty really. I mean Istanbul was "European Capital of Culture" in 2010 and it's not even fully in Europe, nor is Turkey anywhere near EU-membership. Reykjavik (Iceland), Bergen and Stavanger (Norway) have been Capitals of Culture too despite both countries, Norway especially, constantly turning up their noses at EU membership. Exactly , I totally agree, which is why the European Commission should reimburse Britain’s contribution to this project . |
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Post by crowblack on Nov 24, 2017 13:48:50 GMT
It's daft and petty really. I mean Istanbul was "European Capital of Culture" in 2010 and it's not even fully in Europe, nor is Turkey anywhere near EU-membership. Reykjavik (Iceland), Bergen and Stavanger (Norway) have been Capitals of Culture too despite both countries, Norway especially, constantly turning up their noses at EU membership. Interesting - I didn't know that. I wondered why these British cities had carried on their campaigning post-Brexit and that explains it. Brussels seems determined to give Britain a spiteful punishment-beating for this vote which frankly shows them up for the great 'friends' they were. |
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Post by crowblack on Nov 24, 2017 13:50:08 GMT
Btw, I hope we get kicked out of Eurovision, too - it used to be funny but once kitsch becomes self-conscious it ceases to be kitsch and merely becomes crap.
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Post by viserys on Nov 24, 2017 13:52:10 GMT
You couldn't brexit far enough from Europe to get out of that - I mean even Australia is a regular now!
I agree, though, that Eurovision isn't half as fun as it was even a few years ago.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2017 13:57:27 GMT
Eurovision isn't about membership of the EU or even Europe, it's the European Broadcasting Union.
If we continue to use the metaphor of Brexit as a messy divorce, this European Capital of Culture debacle sort of makes sense. Technically there's no reason you can't go to your ex-husband's engagement party, but you really can't blame him for not wanting you there. It'd be nice if he'd said something *before* I bought a fancy new dress to show everyone just how fine I am with the situation, but what can you do.
Holy crap I am just embarrassed every goddamned day this useless weak corrupt government insists on dragging us all down with it, blathering on about how 17 million voices out of 65 million is a clear majority that cannot possibly be defied even though a referendum isn't legally binding and is basically a glorified opinion poll.
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Post by hulmeman on Nov 24, 2017 14:14:44 GMT
Rhyl? Rhyl? Rhyl? It's not even the north Wales coastal city of culture never mind the European city of culture!!!
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Post by Jan on Nov 24, 2017 14:25:02 GMT
Holy crap I am just embarrassed every goddamned day this useless weak corrupt government insists on dragging us all down with it, blathering on about how 17 million voices out of 65 million is a clear majority that cannot possibly be defied even though a referendum isn't legally binding and is basically a glorified opinion poll. What about the letter the Prime Minister sent to every single household in the country saying: “The referendum on Thursday 23rd June is your chance to decide if we should remain in the European Union. This is your decision. The Government will implement what you decide.” Just ignoring that ? Also, just incidentally, Corbyn whipped Labour to vote in favour of A50 submission and just the other night to abstain on a motion to leave open staying in the Customs Union and Single Market. I suppose your analysis is that he too is useless, weak and corrupt ? |
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Post by lynette on Nov 24, 2017 14:42:53 GMT
Just a thought - Eurovision Song Contest, practical point, what language shall nation speak unto nation in if UK not in it?
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Post by kathryn on Nov 24, 2017 14:44:46 GMT
Holy crap I am just embarrassed every goddamned day this useless weak corrupt government insists on dragging us all down with it, blathering on about how 17 million voices out of 65 million is a clear majority that cannot possibly be defied even though a referendum isn't legally binding and is basically a glorified opinion poll. What about the letter the Prime Minister sent to every single household in the country saying: “The referendum on Thursday 23rd June is your chance to decide if we should remain in the European Union. This is your decision. The Government will implement what you decide.” Just ignoring that ? Also, just incidentally, Corbyn whipped Labour to vote in favour of A50 submission and just the other night to abstain on a motion to leave open staying in the Customs Union and Single Market. I suppose your analysis is that he too is useless, weak and corrupt ? There was no timeline promise given on the government implementing Brexit in those pamphlets. They should have spent some time deciding what they actually bloody wanted it to look like, what their negotiating position was going to be, and working out how to best implement it for the good of the country, before pulling the article 50 trigger, instead of blundering in like incompetent fools and then trying to make it up as they go along. The incompetence of this government is actually offensive. They’re all doing their best to save their own political skins, instead of running the country to benefit the people in it. And Corbyn is no better! |
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Post by vdcni on Nov 24, 2017 14:48:55 GMT
It's daft and petty really. I mean Istanbul was "European Capital of Culture" in 2010 and it's not even fully in Europe, nor is Turkey anywhere near EU-membership. Reykjavik (Iceland), Bergen and Stavanger (Norway) have been Capitals of Culture too despite both countries, Norway especially, constantly turning up their noses at EU membership. Interesting - I didn't know that. I wondered why these British cities had carried on their campaigning post-Brexit and that explains it. Brussels seems determined to give Britain a spiteful punishment-beating for this vote which frankly shows them up for the great 'friends' they were. Members of the EEA (Iceland and Norway) and candidate countries (Turkey) can also be part of the process. We won't be any of those things once we leave the EU. It's still a bit petty but given the British Government's behaviour over the last year or so not undeserved. |
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Post by vdcni on Nov 24, 2017 14:50:46 GMT
Just a thought - Eurovision Song Contest, practical point, what language shall nation speak unto nation in if UK not in it? We'll still be members of the EBU after leaving the EU so it doesn't affect Eurovision. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2017 14:56:20 GMT
Just a thought - Eurovision Song Contest, practical point, what language shall nation speak unto nation in if UK not in it? The UK is in it. |
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Post by bimse on Nov 24, 2017 14:58:54 GMT
Interesting - I didn't know that. I wondered why these British cities had carried on their campaigning post-Brexit and that explains it. Brussels seems determined to give Britain a spiteful punishment-beating for this vote which frankly shows them up for the great 'friends' they were. Members of the EEA (Iceland and Norway) and candidate countries (Turkey) can also be part of the process. We won't be any of those things once we leave the EU. It's still a bit petty but given the British Government's behaviour over the last year or so not undeserved. To say nothing of the EUs spiteful and obstructive behaviour |
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Post by bimse on Nov 24, 2017 15:04:56 GMT
Holy crap I am just embarrassed every goddamned day this useless weak corrupt government insists on dragging us all down with it, blathering on about how 17 million voices out of 65 million is a clear majority that cannot possibly be defied even though a referendum isn't legally binding and is basically a glorified opinion poll. What about the letter the Prime Minister sent to every single household in the country saying: “The referendum on Thursday 23rd June is your chance to decide if we should remain in the European Union. This is your decision. The Government will implement what you decide.” Just ignoring that ? Also, just incidentally, Corbyn whipped Labour to vote in favour of A50 submission and just the other night to abstain on a motion to leave open staying in the Customs Union and Single Market. I suppose your analysis is that he too is useless, weak and corrupt ? Well said dr Jan Brock. It was a referendum , asking stay or leave , there was no percentage attached to the vote (I think there should have been but hey, too late) and it annoys me intensely that people are saying the result isn’t valid or if you voted leave you’ have little to no intelligence ..... that attitude makes ME ashamed to be British . |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2017 15:06:36 GMT
To say nothing of the EUs spiteful and obstructive behaviour Calm down. You've had your way. The UK is leaving the EU as a result of your vote. Every disaster from now on is your own fault. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2017 15:32:44 GMT
Members of the EEA (Iceland and Norway) and candidate countries (Turkey) can also be part of the process. We won't be any of those things once we leave the EU. That's precisely it. There are conditions that need to be met in order for an applicant to be considered. We will no longer qualify once we leave the EU. That was always going to happen. I don't see it as even slightly petty. Those are the rules. It's nobody's fault but ours if we didn't understand the consequences of our choice. |
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Post by wickedgrin on Nov 24, 2017 15:39:43 GMT
We should launch The World Capital of Culture. We may or may not let Europe bid for it, but if they give us 40 billion we may think about it!
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Post by bimse on Nov 24, 2017 15:49:26 GMT
To say nothing of the EUs spiteful and obstructive behaviour Calm down. You've had your way. The UK is leaving the EU as a result of your vote. Every disaster from now on is your own fault. EVERY disaster ? Stop exaggerating and don’t be so condescending. Try and be democratic instead . |
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Post by vdcni on Nov 24, 2017 16:00:54 GMT
Members of the EEA (Iceland and Norway) and candidate countries (Turkey) can also be part of the process. We won't be any of those things once we leave the EU. It's still a bit petty but given the British Government's behaviour over the last year or so not undeserved. To say nothing of the EUs spiteful and obstructive behaviour I've said nothing about it as there is nothing to say. There's only one side at fault in all this and it isn't the EU. |
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