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Post by Seriously on Jan 5, 2020 21:18:41 GMT
Unfortunately this is what you get when you have a young inexperienced creative team. A great idea, but they really need guidance.
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Post by intoanewlife on Jan 5, 2020 21:25:47 GMT
Unfortunately this is what you get when you have a young inexperienced creative team. A great idea, but they really need guidance. The producers are very experienced though. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2020 21:29:51 GMT
Why are the audience not getting the full show if the understudies are on especially when they are on at pretty much every performance?
In what way is it not the full show when the alternates are on?
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Post by intoanewlife on Jan 5, 2020 21:32:03 GMT
Why are the audience not getting the full show if the understudies are on especially when they are on at pretty much every performance?
In what way is it not the full show when the alternates are on?
Because they aren't wearing proper costumes for their characters. |
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Post by fairydust on Jan 5, 2020 21:42:00 GMT
In what way is it not the full show when the alternates are on?
Because they aren't wearing proper costumes for their characters. But they’d have to have 24 extra costumes (six for each cover as they all cover all the roles) |
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Post by intoanewlife on Jan 5, 2020 22:01:18 GMT
Because they aren't wearing proper costumes for their characters. But they’d have to have 24 extra costumes (six for each cover as they all cover all the roles) Sorry but is this not a West End show that sells out every performance and is opening on Broadway next month? |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2020 22:12:47 GMT
This tweet thread sums up all the times circumstances like this have happened.
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Post by wicked on Jan 5, 2020 22:43:12 GMT
I actually don't have a problem with them having different costumes to the lead, in fact I love it. It makes each swing a proper member of the cast with their own take on the character they're playing, rather than just filling in for someone. Especially with ones like Collette's which are adapted slightly to still fit their personalities.
Plus, the Arts is tiny and there's no way (..) they could fit 30 full bulky costumes all ready to be worn each show.
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Post by Seriously on Jan 5, 2020 23:05:08 GMT
Unfortunately this is what you get when you have a young inexperienced creative team. A great idea, but they really need guidance. The producers are very experienced though. At cutting costs, yes. |
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Post by sophizoey on Jan 6, 2020 11:21:27 GMT
Six appears to have found a "solution" to their problems. Jen Caldwell who is alternate Boleyn/Howard on the tour and has been covering Cleves in London for the weekend appears to be staying in London as a swing until February. While on the UK Tour, Alicia Corrales-Connor who was Katherine Howard on NCL Bliss will be 1st Cover Howard on the tour until Jen returns. This is backed up by Alicia's spotlight profile.
This shouldn't cause problems for the ship because they only do 4 shows per cruise and some cruises are 3 weeks long. They're also nearing the end of their contract.
A creative solution I must say but with so many main cast members out in London, a 5th swing is probably a better option. There is no Howard, Alexia has a severe knee injury, Danielle has a sinus infection, Natalie is now indisposed and Cherelle Jay is feeling overworked as an alternate and is now taking some time off.
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Post by intoanewlife on Jan 6, 2020 12:04:00 GMT
Six appears to have found a "solution" to their problems. Jen Caldwell who is alternate Boleyn/Howard on the tour and has been covering Cleves in London for the weekend appears to be staying in London as a swing until February. While on the UK Tour, Alicia Corrales-Connor who was Katherine Howard on NCL Bliss will be 1st Cover Howard on the tour until Jen returns. This is backed up by Alicia's spotlight profile. This shouldn't cause problems for the ship because they only do 4 shows per cruise and some cruises are 3 weeks long. They're also nearing the end of their contract. A creative solution I must say but with so many main cast members out in London, a 5th swing is probably a better option. There is no Howard, Alexia has a severe knee injury, Danielle has a sinus infection, Natalie is now indisposed and Cherelle Jay is feeling overworked as an alternate and is now taking some time off. What's wrong with Natalie? |
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Post by intoanewlife on Jan 6, 2020 12:09:41 GMT
I actually don't have a problem with them having different costumes to the lead, in fact I love it. It makes each swing a proper member of the cast with their own take on the character they're playing, rather than just filling in for someone. Especially with ones like Collette's which are adapted slightly to still fit their personalities. Plus, the Arts is tiny and there's no way (..) they could fit 30 full bulky costumes all ready to be worn each show. It's alright if it's just one of them, but the problem is sometimes you have 3 (or even 4) alternatives on and the show looks cheap because half the cast are wearing little more than a black leotard, some tights and a skirt/vest with a few studs on it... |
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Post by dontdreamit on Jan 6, 2020 12:30:47 GMT
I actually don't have a problem with them having different costumes to the lead, in fact I love it. It makes each swing a proper member of the cast with their own take on the character they're playing, rather than just filling in for someone. Especially with ones like Collette's which are adapted slightly to still fit their personalities. Plus, the Arts is tiny and there's no way (..) they could fit 30 full bulky costumes all ready to be worn each show. It's alright if it's just one of them, but the problem is sometimes you have 3 (or even 4) alternatives on and the show looks cheap because half the cast are wearing little more than a black leotard, some tights and a skirt/vest with a few studs on it... That’s only been the times before the costumes have been ready, as far as I can see (or like when one of the times when Genesis Lynea returned to cover). I can see why they did the 9 shows per week schedule, but I wonder if they dropped down to 8 a week it would be more sustainable? How many do they do on the tour? Did they have extra shows as well over the Christmas break? |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2020 12:37:05 GMT
The tour is usually an 8 show week which works much better, it’s only in Manchester they’ve been having problems as there’s been some 9 show weeks there and they were all in one dressing room which meant illnesses spread faster.
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Post by intoanewlife on Jan 6, 2020 12:44:37 GMT
It's alright if it's just one of them, but the problem is sometimes you have 3 (or even 4) alternatives on and the show looks cheap because half the cast are wearing little more than a black leotard, some tights and a skirt/vest with a few studs on it... That’s only been the times before the costumes have been ready, as far as I can see (or like when one of the times when Genesis Lynea returned to cover). I can see why they did the 9 shows per week schedule, but I wonder if they dropped down to 8 a week it would be more sustainable? How many do they do on the tour? Did they have extra shows as well over the Christmas break? It was just after the Genesis return incident that I went and there was 4 alternates on. They seem to only do the extra shows over holiday periods and then drop back. |
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Post by sophizoey on Jan 6, 2020 12:44:52 GMT
Six appears to have found a "solution" to their problems. Jen Caldwell who is alternate Boleyn/Howard on the tour and has been covering Cleves in London for the weekend appears to be staying in London as a swing until February. While on the UK Tour, Alicia Corrales-Connor who was Katherine Howard on NCL Bliss will be 1st Cover Howard on the tour until Jen returns. This is backed up by Alicia's spotlight profile. This shouldn't cause problems for the ship because they only do 4 shows per cruise and some cruises are 3 weeks long. They're also nearing the end of their contract. A creative solution I must say but with so many main cast members out in London, a 5th swing is probably a better option. There is no Howard, Alexia has a severe knee injury, Danielle has a sinus infection, Natalie is now indisposed and Cherelle Jay is feeling overworked as an alternate and is now taking some time off. What's wrong with Natalie? She's just not well, they've had to cancel a concert she's appearing in tonight. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2020 12:54:40 GMT
I really like the alternates having their own costumes too, I think it makes them individuals. And I really like the actual costumes- Collette's black and white one is a bit dull, but I really love Zara's pinky lilac one, the teal shorts one is really zingy, and the orange trousers with the pelmet thing is fab!
As said above, the only time it's been the plain leotard thing that the band wear, with a few added bits, has been when emergency covers were on.
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Post by intoanewlife on Jan 6, 2020 12:59:41 GMT
Most audience members don't know they are watching 'alternates' though. Yes fans of the show do, but the general public have no idea who the main cast are, they are just going along to see the show.
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Post by wicked on Jan 6, 2020 19:18:05 GMT
This whole alternate/illness situation makes me feel ill and I don't even work on the show! Bet they can't wait for Sophie to start, bet she ends up debuting earlier than expected.
I hope they're appreciating Jen, Hana and Zara over there cos they are seriously holding the show together right now.
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Post by deej4life on Jan 7, 2020 2:14:17 GMT
I have seen a few comments regarding the cast being unhappy in the show and leaving after only one contract. Can anyone expand on this?
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Post by Theatre Fan on Jan 7, 2020 16:19:56 GMT
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Post by xanady on Jan 7, 2020 16:58:14 GMT
^After doing the show for a large number of times over months and months,I would think that the Queens would want to spread their wings and try new roles.The fact that they often ‘pop back’ to cover for illness etc suggests that they are happy to help out as required.Just guessing.
I do think they should have a lot more people hired as alternates or covers
Granted it is only a 75 minute show,but they all stay on stage all the time.One dressing room for all is a breeding ground for spreading germs in the winter months.
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Post by distantcousin on Jan 7, 2020 22:43:35 GMT
What's this show actually like? Tonally? Thematically etc. What could it be compared to? I'm all for innovative new musicals, but not if they're too poppy. I'm interested in the concept, but hesitant about taking the plunge on it.
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Post by intoanewlife on Jan 7, 2020 22:56:02 GMT
What's this show actually like? Tonally? Thematically etc. What could it be compared to? I'm all for innovative new musicals, but not if they're too poppy. I'm interested in the concept, but hesitant about taking the plunge on it. It's like a very clever and funny stand up comedy routine mixed with a Spice Girls concert, only with great music and fantastic performers who can actually sing and dance. The first and last song are 'poppy' the rest are a mix of different musical styles from skater punk to hip hop to soul, covering a wide range of emotions with each of the Queens/Wives being 'modelled' on a different modern day pop performer. It's also unabashedly British and female empowerment without being even remotely preachy. I've taken people from the ages of 20 - 67 of all genders and sexualities and all have absolutely loved it. IMO it's best thing currently playing in London. |
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Post by distantcousin on Jan 8, 2020 13:51:13 GMT
I'm intrigued. I love Spice Girls (but I don't know if their style has a place in musical theatre!)
I find comedy very subjective though - what style of comedy? If it's very British then that's a good start (for me!)
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