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Post by Mark on Aug 14, 2019 13:46:07 GMT
And to think when this show first started I got a deal which was top price stalls seats for £15! I believe it’s the same producers as Bank Robbery. They’d be daft not to upsize by 250 ish seats, the demand is clearly there.
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Post by JJShaw on Aug 14, 2019 14:25:24 GMT
Some people on twitter are rather amusing in their entitlement for this! From my understanding the new ruling is that if you win rush tickets you cannot enter again for another 30 days. That seems perfectly fair for a show that has less rush seats than Hamilton (six only has six, correct me if I'm wrong?).
To the people moaning that this isn't making theatre accessible? Whats accessible about an elitist internet group keeping all the tickets to themselves? This should mean that it's far more of a level playing field for people trying to get them each day, and ensures that different people every day have the chance to see the show. I can't quite see a counter argument holding any validity. To the people complaining that "I rushed for someone else and now I can't rush for myself"? wait your 30 days, girl. It's not a blanket ban forever.
Others are now up in arms that you have to be the cardholder present the collecting your tickets too. Many theatres already operate that, if you're buying tickets on your parents credit card (again a big problem for the twitter people) A) you shouldn't be in London alone if you can't afford a £20 ticket. B) if you bring the confirmation email that will also usually suffice box office staff if you explain your situation.
As far as moving to a bigger venue? Absolutely not. When a show is in the "right" venue you can't replicate that feeling or success. The Duchess is perfect for TPTGW, but the Criterion has more seats, why didn't they move it there and put Bank Robbery in Duchess? Because each show fits in their respective venue. The Arts is the perfect venue to capture the essence of this show, it just feels right. Lin Manuel Miranda spoke a lot about this for ITH and many Broadway producers (who have far more money to risk every year) talk about waiting for the "right" venue. People said Hamilton should move venues after its first six months because it was so popular, but that would have damaged it (slightly, its a phenomenon...!) The Nederlander's always say that the Nederlander theatre was the perfect venue for RENT. For me and I think many producers there's so much that goes into finding the correct venue. Would Harry Potter feel as special in the Palladium? Phantom in Dominion?
Not to mention that with a popular show in a smaller venue keeps demand high, word of mouth good, and the anticipation and excitement that you are seeing something special. It's great to see the success of SIX, I hope it doesn't dwindle with stretching itself too thin, I hope it doesn't embarrass itself on Broadway, and I hope it doesn't outstay its welcome.
And if all else fails, the fans will hop onto something else, Wicked, Hamilton, Jamie, Heathers, Six, the next best thing is just around the corner!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2019 14:44:08 GMT
Lots of teeth in braces are being gnarled in grief at tickets decision.
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Post by Dawnstar on Aug 14, 2019 15:15:41 GMT
And to think when this show first started I got a deal which was top price stalls seats for £15! I believe it’s the same producers as Bank Robbery. They’d be daft not to upsize by 250 ish seats, the demand is clearly there. One of the producers is the same, Kenny Wax, but not the others. Given none of the other shows Kenny Wax has produced in the West End recently - Top Hat, The Play That Goes Wrong, Peter Pan Goes Wrong, The Comedy About A Bank Robbery - have had any rush tickets at all, the fans of SiX should be glad that they at least have a chance to try for rush tickets. (I don't even want to think how much money Mr Wax has had from me in the last few years!)
ETA I've just had a look on Twitter & I'm confused. There are a number of tweets from people complaining that they now won't be able to afford to see the show. However on TodayTix's website it says rush tickets are £25. On SiX's official website it say tickets are from £19.50. So if the ordinary ticket price starts at lower than the rush ticket price then why are people complaining that they can't afford to see it without getting rush tickets? Why don't they just buy the cheapest ordinary tickets? It's not as if the Arts is a 1500+ seat theatre where the cheap seats are miles from the stage.
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Post by geweena on Aug 14, 2019 16:26:25 GMT
And to think when this show first started I got a deal which was top price stalls seats for £15! I believe it’s the same producers as Bank Robbery. They’d be daft not to upsize by 250 ish seats, the demand is clearly there. One of the producers is the same, Kenny Wax, but not the others. Given none of the other shows Kenny Wax has produced in the West End recently - Top Hat, The Play That Goes Wrong, Peter Pan Goes Wrong, The Comedy About A Bank Robbery - have had any rush tickets at all, the fans of SiX should be glad that they at least have a chance to try for rush tickets. (I don't even want to think how much money Mr Wax has had from me in the last few years!)
ETA I've just had a look on Twitter & I'm confused. There are a number of tweets from people complaining that they now won't be able to afford to see the show. However on TodayTix's website it says rush tickets are £25. On SiX's official website it say tickets are from £19.50. So if the ordinary ticket price starts at lower than the rush ticket price then why are people complaining that they can't afford to see it without getting rush tickets? Why don't they just buy the cheapest ordinary tickets? It's not as if the Arts is a 1500+ seat theatre where the cheap seats are miles from the stage.
Most of the people complaining they can’t afford it are the ones who have been multiple times in the last few months. Maybe instead of monopolising the rush tickets, they can now just go half as many times and pay in advance. They clearly have the money as even at £25 that starts to add up over multiple visits!
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Post by danb on Aug 14, 2019 16:44:32 GMT
Because if they have to sit in the rubbish seats far from the stage their personal Queen won’t see that they are there again, and won’t become their best friend forever?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2019 16:49:47 GMT
Some people on twitter are rather amusing in their entitlement for this! From my understanding the new ruling is that if you win rush tickets you cannot enter again for another 30 days. That seems perfectly fair for a show that has less rush seats than Hamilton (six only has six, correct me if I'm wrong?). To the people moaning that this isn't making theatre accessible? Whats accessible about an elitist internet group keeping all the tickets to themselves? This should mean that it's far more of a level playing field for people trying to get them each day, and ensures that different people every day have the chance to see the show. I can't quite see a counter argument holding any validity. To the people complaining that "I rushed for someone else and now I can't rush for myself"? wait your 30 days, girl. It's not a blanket ban forever. Others are now up in arms that you have to be the cardholder present the collecting your tickets too. Many theatres already operate that, if you're buying tickets on your parents credit card (again a big problem for the twitter people) A) you shouldn't be in London alone if you can't afford a £20 ticket. B) if you bring the confirmation email that will also usually suffice box office staff if you explain your situation. As far as moving to a bigger venue? Absolutely not. When a show is in the "right" venue you can't replicate that feeling or success. The Duchess is perfect for TPTGW, but the Criterion has more seats, why didn't they move it there and put Bank Robbery in Duchess? Because each show fits in their respective venue. The Arts is the perfect venue to capture the essence of this show, it just feels right. Lin Manuel Miranda spoke a lot about this for ITH and many Broadway producers (who have far more money to risk every year) talk about waiting for the "right" venue. People said Hamilton should move venues after its first six months because it was so popular, but that would have damaged it (slightly, its a phenomenon...!) The Nederlander's always say that the Nederlander theatre was the perfect venue for RENT. For me and I think many producers there's so much that goes into finding the correct venue. Would Harry Potter feel as special in the Palladium? Phantom in Dominion? Not to mention that with a popular show in a smaller venue keeps demand high, word of mouth good, and the anticipation and excitement that you are seeing something special. It's great to see the success of SIX, I hope it doesn't dwindle with stretching itself too thin, I hope it doesn't embarrass itself on Broadway, and I hope it doesn't outstay its welcome. And if all else fails, the fans will hop onto something else, Wicked, Hamilton, Jamie, Heathers, Six, the next best thing is just around the corner! 100% agree! Really well written :-)
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Post by danb on Aug 14, 2019 17:23:41 GMT
The odd thing is that the cheapest seats are the side slips which are as close to the stage as the rush ones. Hmph! P!ssed on my fireworks then 🤣🤣🤣
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Post by Dawnstar on Aug 14, 2019 17:52:12 GMT
Because if they have to sit in the rubbish seats far from the stage their personal Queen won’t see that they are there again, and won’t become their best friend forever? There's always the stage door. Well, the lobby given it's the Arts. Also I thought someone said a page or two back that the rush tickets aren't the front row so they probably wouldn't be visible to the cast in them anyway!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2019 19:30:56 GMT
They say they can't book in advance because they need to be able to book at short notice because that's when they suddenly find out their favourite is on.
I do have to laugh at someone being so entitled that they feel that going only once a month is "totally inaccessible" and that they should be able to go multiple times a week. Well I'd love to go that often, but part of life is that you can't do everything you want to do, surely?
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Post by viserys on Aug 14, 2019 19:38:37 GMT
They say they can't book in advance because they need to be able to book at short notice because that's when they suddenly find out their favourite is on. Couldn't this be solved by publishing a fixed schedule for the full run like most shows with alternates do? I really really only want to see this for Danielle Steers (down the line), so I don't want to risk booking in advance for a show she won't be doing. At the same time I definitely don't want to join the rush ticket scrum... I just hope that when I finally get around to seeing this in winter, it will be easier to get tickets at short notice.
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Post by danb on Aug 14, 2019 19:39:53 GMT
Because if they have to sit in the rubbish seats far from the stage their personal Queen won’t see that they are there again, and won’t become their best friend forever? There's always the stage door. Well, the lobby given it's the Arts. Also I thought someone said a page or two back that the rush tickets aren't the front row so they probably wouldn't be visible to the cast in them anyway! I think it said they’re second row so not exactly far. I know I sound mean spirited, but then so is stopping others from the chance of seeing the show for £25 on such a regular basis.
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Post by Dawnstar on Aug 14, 2019 19:54:10 GMT
They say they can't book in advance because they need to be able to book at short notice because that's when they suddenly find out their favourite is on. As someone who likes seeing understudies I can understand the desire to see different cast members but I'm not sure how rush tickets would help with that. Of course SiX may work differently but when I've tried to catch understudies in other shows the cast members either know their dates weeks in advance if its holiday cover, so those wanting to see them can book in advance, or if it's emergency cover for illness then it's only confimed on the day, so too late to enter for rush tickets. I think it said they’re second row so not exactly far. I know I sound mean spirited, but then so is stopping others from the chance of seeing the show for £25 on such a regular basis. Oh well, I suppose I was equally selfish day seating for Wicked probably at least a dozen times back in 2007, although that did at least take a certain amount of effort (5.25am train down to London) compared to clicking on an app. At least I know my repeat viewings of The Comedy About A Bank Robbery since 2016 aren't blocking other people, as it rarely sells out.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2019 20:13:09 GMT
The ones I was reading on Twitter earlier were moaning that yes, they often know the SCHEDULED dates for alternates, but they if the alternate suddenly announces a short notice one, they can't book in advance as the cheapest seats are already all sold out.
It's all a foreign world to me. I have to plan well in advance to go to the theatre, and I can't imagine wanting to see a show as often as that.
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Post by amp09 on Aug 14, 2019 22:26:11 GMT
Some people on twitter are rather amusing in their entitlement for this! From my understanding the new ruling is that if you win rush tickets you cannot enter again for another 30 days. That seems perfectly fair for a show that has less rush seats than Hamilton (six only has six, correct me if I'm wrong?). To the people moaning that this isn't making theatre accessible? Whats accessible about an elitist internet group keeping all the tickets to themselves? This should mean that it's far more of a level playing field for people trying to get them each day, and ensures that different people every day have the chance to see the show. I can't quite see a counter argument holding any validity. To the people complaining that "I rushed for someone else and now I can't rush for myself"? wait your 30 days, girl. It's not a blanket ban forever. Others are now up in arms that you have to be the cardholder present the collecting your tickets too. Many theatres already operate that, if you're buying tickets on your parents credit card (again a big problem for the twitter people) A) you shouldn't be in London alone if you can't afford a £20 ticket. B) if you bring the confirmation email that will also usually suffice box office staff if you explain your situation. As far as moving to a bigger venue? Absolutely not. When a show is in the "right" venue you can't replicate that feeling or success. The Duchess is perfect for TPTGW, but the Criterion has more seats, why didn't they move it there and put Bank Robbery in Duchess? Because each show fits in their respective venue. The Arts is the perfect venue to capture the essence of this show, it just feels right. Lin Manuel Miranda spoke a lot about this for ITH and many Broadway producers (who have far more money to risk every year) talk about waiting for the "right" venue. People said Hamilton should move venues after its first six months because it was so popular, but that would have damaged it (slightly, its a phenomenon...!) The Nederlander's always say that the Nederlander theatre was the perfect venue for RENT. For me and I think many producers there's so much that goes into finding the correct venue. Would Harry Potter feel as special in the Palladium? Phantom in Dominion? Not to mention that with a popular show in a smaller venue keeps demand high, word of mouth good, and the anticipation and excitement that you are seeing something special. It's great to see the success of SIX, I hope it doesn't dwindle with stretching itself too thin, I hope it doesn't embarrass itself on Broadway, and I hope it doesn't outstay its welcome. And if all else fails, the fans will hop onto something else, Wicked, Hamilton, Jamie, Heathers, Six, the next best thing is just around the corner! Love this - so nicely put. I have yet to see Six mainly due to never bothering to even try for Rush tickets because they’re always gone by 10.00am, so I’m hoping I can now get to see it - although after reading about these super fans, I’m not sure I want to be sat next to them. Do you get a lot of these ‘super fans’ following tours around? I guess I’ve a better chance of avoiding them in Bath when it comes next year.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2019 22:58:22 GMT
Why hold these tickets back, why not just put them all on sale and have some cheaper seats at the back.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2019 23:16:45 GMT
As far as moving to a bigger venue? Absolutely not. When a show is in the "right" venue you can't replicate that feeling or success. I disagree that it's the 'right' venue. When the show came to London, it was a tiny show from the Edinburgh fringe and it would have been crazy to go to any other theatre, because it was a complete unknown. But now that the show is a huge success, it needs to go somewhere else. I'm not saying a huge theatre, but anything is better than The Arts.
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Post by shady23 on Aug 15, 2019 0:23:46 GMT
Unfortunately yes.
I've been a fan of many shows over the years but would hope I've never crossed the thin line between being passionate and being a pest.
There will be people at venues who are there every single show and at stage door before the show and after the show every single day.
I can't imagine what there is to say to performers after the first day and a "I really enjoyed the performance" but this seems to be a thing these days.
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Post by impossibleprincess73 on Aug 15, 2019 0:28:12 GMT
I popped into the Arts around 5.30pm today and saw a bunch of girls just sitting around, I assumed they were waiting on the cast arriving. I was surprised at how many of them there were.
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Post by latefortheoverture on Aug 15, 2019 0:50:40 GMT
TT has made the right move making rush tickets for this a lot tighter. Sick of seeing fangirls complaining all the way down the twitter timeline...
One now moaning how do they expect people to that are under 18 to have photo ID other than a passport, which they're parents forbid them to take with them! Am I right in saying theres still 'citizen cards'? I remember having one at school to prove I was *under* 16! What runs through there little heads?
Whilst it's great to love and support a show so much, why do people not explore other options available on and off the west end? If they now can't see six twice a week, they may be able to fill up their theatre need with some banging theatre elsewhere in London! There's certainly an abundance of it!
They're kicking up a fuss because they won't be able to hog the show as often. It's a good thing- even blocking them based on postcode and email address!!!
Let them book in advance like a normal person!
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Post by danb on Aug 15, 2019 5:46:30 GMT
[]Oh well, I suppose I was equally selfish day seating for Wicked probably at least a dozen times back in 2007, although that did at least take a certain amount of effort (5.25am train down to London) compared to clicking on an app.. How so? Everybody dayseating had the same chance of getting a seat if they put the same effort in. This was just cheating others out of a chance...big difference.
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Post by musicalmarge on Aug 15, 2019 6:09:12 GMT
As far as moving to a bigger venue? Absolutely not. When a show is in the "right" venue you can't replicate that feeling or success. I disagree that it's the 'right' venue. When the show came to London, it was a tiny show from the Edinburgh fringe and it would have been crazy to go to any other theatre, because it was a complete unknown. But now that the show is a huge success, it needs to go somewhere else. I'm not saying a huge theatre, but anything is better than The Arts. Agreed. I think it would look great in a small theatre like Harold Pinter and it would be great to have a large selection of cheaper tickets for young people.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2019 6:10:45 GMT
I can only manage to see the show once or twice a year. These fangirls are being completely ridiculous about only being able to go once a month.
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Post by shady23 on Aug 15, 2019 6:48:18 GMT
They can still go every single show if they wish, but only one visit a month can be a rush ticket.
I'm sure the website wouldn't block them buying normal priced tickets and with most at thirty to fourth pounds there is really not that much difference in price.
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Post by edi on Aug 15, 2019 7:13:09 GMT
They can still go every single show if they wish, but only one visit a month can be a rush ticket. I'm sure the website wouldn't block them buying normal priced tickets and with most at thirty to fourth pounds there is really not that much difference in price. I've just booked back stall for £19.50 - great price I think for such a small venue. Even the £31 tickets are very Reasonable, I don't get why they insist on the rush ones. Incidentally I had a look on Twitter and I cannot find any of the "drama" . Can you send a link or is it on a private fun club page?
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