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Post by robertb213 on Jan 15, 2018 16:11:04 GMT
Louise is performing at Cadogan Hall on 14th February and at the Southbank Centre on 23rd March, for anyone interested 😁
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Post by dazzerlump on Jan 15, 2018 17:33:45 GMT
I don't honestly think Audrey has to be any age, she could easily be in her 30's
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2018 17:49:27 GMT
I love that peopls are judging Louise's age when she is late 30's whist Ellen Greene did it at Encores! when she was 756. 😂😂
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Jan 15, 2018 18:23:37 GMT
I can't come for him with that. Most people know the statement is simply wrong, as evidenced by the fact she is consistantly dream cast. The comments speak for themselves.  She was decidedly average in that thing I saw her in with Lorna Luft. In fact Lorna sang her off the stage! After everything I’d heard about her I had to check at the interval that they hadn’t put an understudy on  However I’m sure this was a rare off night and under normal circumstances she’s great  |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2018 18:41:27 GMT
I can't come for him with that. Most people know the statement is simply wrong, as evidenced by the fact she is consistantly dream cast. The comments speak for themselves. She was decidedly average in that thing I saw her in with Lorna Luft. In fact Lorna sang her off the stage! After everything I’d heard about her I had to check at the interval that they hadn’t put an understudy on However I’m sure this was a rare off night and under normal circumstances she’s great You are correct. |
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Jan 15, 2018 18:57:01 GMT
Lol
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2018 19:08:46 GMT
I love that peopls are judging Louise's age when she is late 30's whist Ellen Greene did it at Encores! when she was 756. 😂😂 The difference being that Ellen Green's performance as Audrey is iconic. It is the role that she will always be known for and it is very difficult to try and play Audrey any differently, because she was perfect in the role on film. And Louise Dearman is known for what exactely? Being in Wicked?? Yay. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2018 19:18:06 GMT
I love that peopls are judging Louise's age when she is late 30's whist Ellen Greene did it at Encores! when she was 756. 😂😂 The difference being that Ellen Green's performance as Audrey is iconic. It is the role that she will always be known for and it is very difficult to try and play Audrey any differently, because she was perfect in the role on film. And Louise Dearman is known for what exactely? Being in Wicked?? Yay. Criticise Wicked all you want, most of the actresses that have played those two roles have huge fanbases within the theatre world. And Louise holds a distinction within the theatre of being the only one ever to play both roles, which goes to show how much of a range vocally she has. I agree she isn't at all famous, but don't discount her as a completely unknown person. Ellen Greene's performance, I agree, was iconic. But it still doesn't take away from the fact you critique someone for being 30-something when she was 60-something. Iconic or not, she was still three decades older than Louise, and way too old for the part. Unless Audrey is the Norma Desmond of the theatre world, that you can never age out of? Personally I'm all for Sheridan Smith reprising her performance from 2006/7, on audio she sounds fantastic formthe role. Too old? |
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Post by robertb213 on Jan 15, 2018 20:10:53 GMT
I love that peopls are judging Louise's age when she is late 30's whist Ellen Greene did it at Encores! when she was 756. 😂😂 The difference being that Ellen Green's performance as Audrey is iconic. It is the role that she will always be known for and it is very difficult to try and play Audrey any differently, because she was perfect in the role on film. And Louise Dearman is known for what exactely? Being in Wicked?? Yay. Louise's relative lack of fame outside the theatre world doesn't remotely detract from the level of her talent. In fact I find it almost criminal that someone like Adele sits at home screeching and rolling in money when Louise could sing rings around her. Her CV speaks for itself. You don't get parts in Evita, Cats, Guys and Dolls, Kiss Me Kate and Wicked (as both lead roles) without some serious lungs. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2018 20:25:22 GMT
The difference being that Ellen Green's performance as Audrey is iconic. It is the role that she will always be known for and it is very difficult to try and play Audrey any differently, because she was perfect in the role on film. And Louise Dearman is known for what exactely? Being in Wicked?? Yay. Criticise Wicked all you want, most of the actresses that have played those two roles have huge fanbases within the theatre world. And Louise holds a distinction within the theatre of being the only one ever to play both roles, which goes to show how much of a range vocally she has. I agree she isn't at all famous, but don't discount her as a completely unknown person. Ellen Greene's performance, I agree, was iconic. But it still doesn't take away from the fact you critique someone for being 30-something when she was 60-something. Iconic or not, she was still three decades older than Louise, and way too old for the part. Unless Audrey is the Norma Desmond of the theatre world, that you can never age out of? Personally I'm all for Sheridan Smith reprising her performance from 2006/7, on audio she sounds fantastic formthe role. Too old? Firstly, I was not criticising Wicked. Its a role that has been played by many actresses over the years and they all tend to blur into one. There is nothing stand out in their performances, uness you're the type of fan who shares every single riff from Defying Gravity on Youtube... I didn't say Louise Dearman wasn't an unkown, it's just that she has done nothing of note, apart from Wicked. She has yet to even create a new role from scratch. Think Elaine Paige in Evite, Glen Close in Sunset Blvd, Sutton Foster in Mille, Ethel Merman in everything. Having a theatre fan base really isn't that big of a thing.... Ellen Greene was asked to play Audrey for 3 performances, in an encore presentation because its the role she will always be known for and because it was just 3 performances. She would never be cast in a new full production of the show, but if she was i would still go and see it! Also, please could you refer me to the post where i apparently critiqued someone's age? As i have said no such thing. Please check facts before you post. |
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Post by theatreian on Jan 15, 2018 22:21:09 GMT
Well this is getting rather heated! There are many great actresses who have not had the opportunity to create a role from scratch. The business has such a plethora of talent that the opportunities do not come along as often as they may have done some years ago when in reality there were less performers around competing for roles. As a massive Louise fan , who did originate a role in Water Babies the point I and others are making are her talents in musical theatre and concert work. In a competitive industry she in my view is one of the leading lights and although others may not agree that is their prerogative. For those who love musical theatre Louise is not simply known for Wicked which I appreciate has a fan base all of its own but Is known for an array of theatre and recording work.
There my rant is at an end . FOR NOW!!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2018 22:45:34 GMT
Some of you uber fans are so touchy. At what point did anyone say she wasn't talented? There were more opportunities years ago? Complete nonsense. There are now so many shows running, being created, workshopped, revived, toured, that there are alot more opportunities nowadays. |
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Post by theatreian on Jan 16, 2018 10:38:21 GMT
And Louise Dearman is known for what exactely? Being in Wicked?? Yay. That is why us fans can get touchy. When a comment like that is made about someone we are a fan of. As I have said previously Wicked is only a small amount of Louises' career. If you listen to her last album It's Time you may appreciate her ability more. Maybe not. Everyone has their opinion. |
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Post by Mark on Jan 16, 2018 10:52:34 GMT
It doesn’t really really matter if people are “well known” for the open air, they don’t have a history of celebrity or stunt casting.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2018 10:56:00 GMT
OK lets just come to the agreement that Louise Dearman's voice is incredible, she is a great actress, accept that fact and move on. Any other actresses you can see playing Audrey? One perhaps not so controversial.  |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2018 11:15:14 GMT
Honestly I'm disappointed the Louise Dearman aspect of the conversation has gone on so long without anyone addressing @remark's possibility of Sunday in the Park with George for 2019. Is that a rumour or a wish? And if it's a rumour, how substantive is it and how generally reliable is the source?
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Post by stevej678 on Jan 16, 2018 11:15:47 GMT
Any other actresses you can see playing Audrey? One perhaps not so controversial. Lauren Samuels would be a pretty cool Audrey, I think. |
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Post by robertb213 on Jan 16, 2018 11:18:59 GMT
I didn't catch the actress' name, but she played the blind girl in The Toxic Avenger at the Arts last year - she'd be fabulous!!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2018 11:27:21 GMT
I didn't catch the actress' name, but she played the blind girl in The Toxic Avenger at the Arts last year - she'd be fabulous!! Oh Emma Salvo?! She was fabulous, @ryan took a real shine to her! She'd be brilliant as Audrey! |
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Post by stevej678 on Jan 16, 2018 11:34:30 GMT
The original Sarah in The Toxic Avenger at Southwark Playhouse, Hannah Grover, was fantastic too. I didn't see Emma Salvo to compare but I was crying with laughter watching Hannah Grover.
Basically we're going to need seven alternate Audrey's to keep everyone happy!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2018 9:24:00 GMT
Honestly I'm disappointed the Louise Dearman aspect of the conversation has gone on so long without anyone addressing @remark 's possibility of Sunday in the Park with George for 2019. Is that a rumour or a wish? And if it's a rumour, how substantive is it and how generally reliable is the source? Just a wish. No info or rumour or anything else. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2018 9:35:53 GMT
Damn. Well, maybe if we wish REALLY REALLY hard.....
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2018 9:37:33 GMT
Damn. Well, maybe if we wish REALLY REALLY hard..... Indeed. I did say please. Pretty please. Having said that, I did call Little Shop of Horrors last year before any rumour or announcement. Maybe my fingers on the pulse. |
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Post by Peach on Jan 17, 2018 22:54:27 GMT
One of the problems with Sunday in the Park is that the general ticket buying public are terribly literal and it would probably take a huge ad campaign for them to realise this wasn't a one off/once a week show. And they'd have to perform on Sundays or people would complain.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2018 22:58:18 GMT
One of the problems with Sunday in the Park is that the general ticket buying public are terribly literal and it would probably take a huge ad campaign for them to realise this wasn't a one off/once a week show. And they'd have to perform on Sundays or people would complain. Depending on what other shows they have lined up and the set they demand, they could just run it concurrently, on Sundays June - Sept. Probably not ideal or the best use of cash though. |
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