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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2017 15:16:23 GMT
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Post by crowblack on Oct 2, 2017 15:33:38 GMT
Well, I hope some of them get put up there, but I think BBC employees have a pass to the archives proper (pre-iplayer, a BBC flatmate used to bring home VHS tapes of old material). I'd love to see the Arena 1980s Barcelona and Jean Genet programmes made available.
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Post by TallPaul on Oct 3, 2017 12:23:48 GMT
Instead, all that is ever shown is the elephant episode, ad nauseum. Let poor John Noakes rest in peace.
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Post by n1david on Oct 6, 2017 12:51:04 GMT
I see that Mark Shenton has overcome his distaste of this programme to be one of the guests on tomorrow's edition.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2017 21:46:44 GMT
Just seen an post/ad on twitter for it. Mistook Broadcasting House for a Dalek on first glance...! ![]()  |
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Post by dani on Oct 8, 2017 13:58:23 GMT
I see that Mark Shenton has overcome his distaste of this programme to be one of the guests on tomorrow's edition. I noticed this too. I didn't think he was given very much opportunity to say anything of substance. He was basically asked to agree with the proposition that Ian McKellen is one of the acting greats, and then he was asked for an opinion of Blade Runner, which he had found slowmoving. I'm not convinced by the concept of the programme. Who is it aimed at? |
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Post by crowblack on Oct 8, 2017 15:04:15 GMT
Nice interview with Ian McKellen, but with that, Blade Runner and Tim Minchin (who was also on the One Show and everywhere else) it isn't providing edgy material or in depth analysis we can't see elsewhere. Looking at Twitter, I think Bidisha has revised her opinion on Blade Runner since that was recorded - or maybe the BBC didn't want her to say anything controversial/political on TV.
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Post by lynette on Oct 8, 2017 16:21:40 GMT
I don’t watch this but interesting to read that they have Bidisha on. She was on the old show which used to be after Newsnight and essential viewing many years ago....I didn’t like her much then. Anybody new?
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Post by dani on Oct 8, 2017 17:08:42 GMT
The other person on the panel, besides Mark Shenton and Bidisha, was Kate Williams, who gets a lot of airtime from the BBC, but never strikes me as a TV natural. Amol Rajan was hosting, competently. This was the first time I have tuned in, although a quick look reveals the first episode had Viv Groskop and Nihal Arthanayake as pundits, and the second had Ekow Eshun and Sarah Churchwell. Largely the usual suspects for this kind of arts programme.
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Post by martin1965 on Oct 8, 2017 17:38:29 GMT
I don’t watch this but interesting to read that they have Bidisha on. She was on the old show which used to be after Newsnight and essential viewing many years ago....I didn’t like her much then. Anybody new? Was she? Id never heard of her. Shenton didnt help himself by giving James Graham a shameless plug. Annoying that they kept saying Lear was on at the Festival Theatre instead of the Minerva. |
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Post by martin1965 on Oct 8, 2017 17:40:07 GMT
Nice interview with Ian McKellen, but with that, Blade Runner and Tim Minchin (who was also on the One Show and everywhere else) it isn't providing edgy material or in depth analysis we can't see elsewhere. Looking at Twitter, I think Bidisha has revised her opinion on Blade Runner since that was recorded - or maybe the BBC didn't want her to say anything controversial/political on TV. Where else can "we" see in depth analysis? What am i missing? |
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Post by tmesis on Oct 8, 2017 18:02:15 GMT
The only programme with any sort of rigour that's left is on Radio 4 : 'Saturday Review.'
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Post by crowblack on Oct 8, 2017 19:17:29 GMT
I think I should have woken up before typing that. I meant it isn't providing anything left field or in-depth discussion - just the same sort of stuff we can see on Andrew Marr's Sunday prog or the One Show or the occasional theatre item on news at 10 (Sonia Friedman stuff). |
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Post by crowblack on Oct 14, 2017 19:01:07 GMT
This week, two reviews of films and one of a tv series, and an interview (though no clips, just stills) on Labour of Love. The film star interviews are the sort of thing many other TV and radio shows do, and very visually static, so unless you are just happy watching Fassbender or Winslet sitting in a chair and talking - and yes, many are, but Film 2017 does that too - I don't see why this is on TV in a programme that could be spending its time on something that isn't already covered well elsewhere. If they are going to feature film - which already gets blanket coverage - why not do a bit of left-field stuff from the LFF?
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Post by Jan on Oct 14, 2017 19:58:36 GMT
This week, two reviews of films and one of a tv series, and an interview (though no clips, just stills) on Labour of Love. The film star interviews are the sort of thing many other TV and radio shows do, and very visually static, so unless you are just happy watching Fassbender or Winslet sitting in a chair and talking - and yes, many are, but Film 2017 does that too - I don't see why this is on TV in a programme that could be spending its time on something that isn't already covered well elsewhere. If they are going to feature film - which already gets blanket coverage - why not do a bit of left-field stuff from the LFF? Just through inertia I was going to watch the thing but just before it started they showed a photo of the aggressive troll Coren and I was galvanised into action and turned the TV off. |
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Post by Backdrifter on Oct 18, 2017 8:56:40 GMT
The other thing about the presenters' comments, without their actually having said it explicitly, is that it seems to me these remarks are about the London West End. In implicitly skewing discussion to big London theatres, they do another disservice in not recognising the breadth and diversity of theatre, that it's not just old buildings with uncomfortable seats and shows that start at 7.30. But hopefully I'll be proved wrong and the show will cover stuff other than WE etc.
As for singling out long productions with no interval - probably very few people are happy about that, including bar managers - but it's the exception by some way.
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Post by Mr Snow on Oct 18, 2017 9:19:40 GMT
Just because someone is saying something badly/cynically/with no experience, doesn’t make their point wrong.
Speaking personally as I get older the discomfort and lack of facilities in West end theatres makes a slow night unbearable. I also believe that this discourages many ‘seasoned’ theatre goers from regular attendance and promotes the need for ‘shows’ that attract a younger, one off visitor, that have only a limited appeal in both demographic and ‘lasting appeal’/’quality’. I realise the theatre has always had any kind of freak show to fill seats, but there does seem to be less appetite for serious theatre than in my youth (Bah, humbug etc.)
So I support anyone who points out that the West End ‘comfort’ factors are falling below the standards of many a new provincial theatre or even sports arenas. This at a time when ownership is dominated by a couple of very profitable companies. They are not using their profits to reinvest and history shows you can only milk a cash cow for so long.
End of rant. Thank you for your patience.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2018 22:04:40 GMT
Giles Coren is otherwise engaged for the duration of Series Two.
GOOD!
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