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Post by moelhywel on Sept 12, 2017 9:04:17 GMT
just heard on the radio that Sir Peter Hall has died, aged 86.
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Post by stefy69 on Sept 12, 2017 9:24:02 GMT
Oh that is sad,
R I P Sir Peter
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2017 9:33:29 GMT
Even when someone 'had a good life' it's so sad to hear they've gone. Thanks Sir Peter, we all owe you a lot in British theatre.
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Post by martin1965 on Sept 12, 2017 9:45:38 GMT
Just saw the sad news. In many ways the father of the modern subsidised theatre. A good life😥
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Post by couldileaveyou on Sept 12, 2017 10:21:55 GMT
What a loss
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Post by emsworthian on Sept 12, 2017 10:46:16 GMT
I remember as a schoolgirl watching on TV the Peter Hall/John Barton production of "The War of the Roses". It had a tremendous impact on me and that ignited my love of Shakespeare. RIP
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Post by hulmeman on Sept 12, 2017 11:35:18 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2017 12:22:43 GMT
As his legacy, Hall will live on in his creation of the RSC and the shepherding of the young National Theatre into its South Bank home. Neither of these are any small matter and testament to Hall's abilities as a persuader, as advocate and, at times, as bloody minded autocrat.
By the time I was regularly attending theatre Hall had become a monolithic character and his productions had a similar feeling of solidity, with tales of earlier triumphs, ones that put him in the vanguard of British theatre, long since past. Waiting for Godot, a string of European plays (especially from France) and Shakespeare, these were his calling cards, later came Pinter and a move into opera. Theatre is a cruel mistress and 'what you were' is easily forgotten and, to new generations, never even known. Productions exist in the memories of people whose numbers gradually dwindle and disappear. Recently I watched one of his few films and had an insight into what he was before I was around, a long forgotten but resurrected by the BFI feature called Akenfield. A picture of rural life and death, improvised with a local amateur cast and filmed over a year of changing seasons. A beautiful and life affirming film that belies Hall's reputation as starstruck and dictatorial. It's a shame that we can't look back on the ephemeral joys of the theatre that he had created, in the same way.
Buildings, however, survive and, if built on strong foundations, so do companies and no other figure in British post war theatre as Hall can claim to have given us such strong foundations.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2017 12:25:34 GMT
Sad news, a true giant of the British Theatre perhaps it's most celebrated director and Artistic Director. I was lucky enough to meet him once in the early to mid 2000's. I was down in London for a day to see a show, do a bit of autographing, site seeing etc. I cannot recall what theatre it was, but it was probably one of his Peter Hall Company productions but as I walked by the stage door, I saw a large figure with a cane emerging and saw it was Sir Peter. He was obviously waiting for a taxi, so having found my autograph book or appropriate programme I approached him and said "Any chance of a signature please Sir Peter". "Certainly" he boomed back and signed for me, as I said thanks his taxi arrived as a couple more people having seen him sign approached him. "Who is it" one said upon hearing this Sir Peter ignored them and got into his taxi. The people then said to me who was it and when I said "Peter Hall" they didn't know who he was. I'm certain I only got a signature as I had clearly recognised who he was and wasn't someone just chancing their luck.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2017 12:41:51 GMT
When we sometimes talk, slightly disparageingly, of the traditional NT audience, it was Peter Hall who put them there. His productions usually had a patronising element which talked down to the audience, to ensure that they all believed that they'd got the point. But that was necessary at the time, and it succeeded in creating and establishing the very pillars of British theatre. It's on his solid back that theatre today can afford to be more provisional and subjective.
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Post by Jan on Sept 12, 2017 13:09:04 GMT
Hall was the most effective political operator there's been in modern British theatre history. He established the RSC and managed the NT's transfer to the South Bank against massive opposition from, variously, governments, funding bodies, unions and the theatrical establishment. The results benefit us now. He was also a brilliant producer and championed the work of writers (Pinter, Beckett) and other directors (Nunn, Bill Bryden). On the downside he was on occasion avaricious and unprincipled - two sides of the same coin probably.
As a theatre director he was less brilliant with only a few outstanding productions: Wars of the Roses, Oresteia and a few others. About the best I saw was the McKellen Coriolanus but it turned out that (typically) Hall had been absent for much of the rehearsal and McKellen wasn't that happy with the outcome anyway. I suspect he was better as an opera director.
I wrote to him once with a question about NT scheduling and received a courteous and considered reply.
A great man of the theatre.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2017 15:37:23 GMT
The theatre has lost a wonderful champion. Very sad but he left behind a legacy of inspiration for many to enjoy. My thoughts and prayers with his family. RIP
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Post by moelhywel on Sept 12, 2017 16:16:23 GMT
A tribute programme to him will be on BBC4 tonight at 9 o'clock.
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Post by joem on Sept 12, 2017 17:58:57 GMT
A giant of the theatre establishment. One of us.
Saw him in Kyoto a few years ago. RIP.
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Post by bordeaux on Sept 12, 2017 18:05:17 GMT
Amazing energy too - still directing into his 80s, running a Bath Theatre Royal season until quite recently. I know it's the achievements at the RSC and the National that are most highly regarded but I'd like to put in a word for some of his later productions too, after he left the National. An amazing (and very funny) The Wild Duck with Alex Jennings and David Threlfall at the Phoenix; a hilarious Lysistrata in Ranjit Bolt's version; my favourite Hamlet - Stephen Dillane, done in the mid-90s on Shaftesbury Avenue.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2017 18:12:24 GMT
His diaries are a fascinating read, particularly about the probs of the NT on the South Bank and the relationship with Olivier.
Walked home across Waterloo Bridge today and the display screen on the NT had his name and dates - nice dignified tribute. Hope they do some sort of platform or other retrospective of his life.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2017 18:36:25 GMT
I had realised that he had dementia, for anyone it must be awful but especially so for someone who was as creative as he was.
Amazing to think he was still in his 20's when he created the RSC and was directing some of the titans of British Theatre.
He also lived a full life outside the theatre being married 4 times and having 6 children many of whom followed him into the business.
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Post by martin1965 on Sept 12, 2017 19:18:49 GMT
Amazing energy too - still directing into his 80s, running a Bath Theatre Royal season until quite recently. I know it's the achievements at the RSC and the National that are most highly regarded but I'd like to put in a word for some of his later productions too, after he left the National. An amazing (and very funny) The Wild Duck with Alex Jennings and David Threlfall at the Phoenix; a hilarious Lysistrata in Ranjit Bolt's version; my favourite Hamlet - Stephen Dillane, done in the mid-90s on Shaftesbury Avenue. Agree about Wild Duck, fantastic production!
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Post by Rory on Sept 12, 2017 20:26:07 GMT
RIP, Sir Peter. Such a loss. Thoughts with his family.
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Post by lynette on Sept 12, 2017 21:47:44 GMT
Ditto all of the above and he was so young when he just got stuff done. His memoirs are worth a read. I think I recall he got Peggy Ashcroft on board for the RSC by talking to her in the car park. I will check this out. Shoulders of giants...
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Post by Squire Sullen on Sept 12, 2017 21:51:18 GMT
Lovely tribute at the start of Oslo press night tonight. Rufus Norris and Nic Hytner came on at the start to pay tribute and lead one last round of applause and standing ovation at the NT.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2017 0:17:20 GMT
I know it is a bit early to think of tributes but surely there is a good case for naming a theatre or a performing space at a theatre after him.
The names at the NT seem to be tied up but Cottesloe was renamed the Dorfman so could the Lyttleton be renamed?
The Rose Theatre at Kingston could certainly be renamed as Sir Peter was the founding director there.
At Stratford the Royal Shakespeare Theatre is perhaps too well established but it was renamed in 1961 from the Shakespeare Memorial Theatre and the other options the Swan and The Other Place were conceived after Peter had left the Company. If the renaming the RST in his honour wasn't considered practical, I'd go with The Other Place as the Peter Hall Building/Theatre given that he encouraged new work and that venue is now striving to do this too.
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Post by Jan on Sept 13, 2017 5:46:14 GMT
I know it is a bit early to think of tributes but surely there is a good case for naming a theatre or a performing space at a theatre after him. The names at the NT seem to be tied up but Cottesloe was renamed the Dorfman so could the Lyttleton be renamed? The Rose Theatre at Kingston could certainly be renamed as Sir Peter was the founding director there. At Stratford the Royal Shakespeare Theatre is perhaps too well established but it was renamed in 1961 from the Shakespeare Memorial Theatre and the other options the Swan and The Other Place were conceived after Peter had left the Company. If the renaming the RST in his honour wasn't considered practical, I'd go with The Other Place as the Peter Hall Building/Theatre given that he encouraged new work and that venue is now striving to do this too. The Rose Kingston shows the best and worst of Hall. Entirely through his own efforts he managed to get a large new theatre in Kingston built (modelled on the original Rose) - it was entirely his vision and probably only he could have made it happen. But then when it was built he almost immediately jumped ship to Bath leaving Kingston with an expensive white elephant that has never been financially sound and is rarely full.
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Post by maggiem on Sept 13, 2017 9:55:55 GMT
Amazing energy too - still directing into his 80s, running a Bath Theatre Royal season until quite recently. I know it's the achievements at the RSC and the National that are most highly regarded but I'd like to put in a word for some of his later productions too, after he left the National. An amazing (and very funny) The Wild Duck with Alex Jennings and David Threlfall at the Phoenix; a hilarious Lysistrata in Ranjit Bolt's version; my favourite Hamlet - Stephen Dillane, done in the mid-90s on Shaftesbury Avenue. Agree about Wild Duck, fantastic production! I saw The Wild Duck at the Palace Theatre in Manchester, during the Easter break before my final term at Plymouth on my English degree course (it was one of the set texts). When I checked the tour schedule I found out it was on at Bath Theatre Royal the following week, so when I got back to Plymouth I told my lecturer and he arranged a trip at short notice so the rest of the students on my course could see it. Some wondered why I wanted to see it a second time, but a good production is always worth revisiting! Everyone enjoyed it, and it's one of my fondest theatre memories.
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Post by TallPaul on Sept 13, 2017 12:32:45 GMT
A tribute programme to him will be on BBC4 tonight at 9 o'clock. It's well worth iPlaying. It must be rather odd being a contributor to these types pf programmes, talking in the past tense about someone who, at the time of recording, is still alive.
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