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Post by Tibidabo on Dec 8, 2017 15:01:12 GMT
Then, after recording has ended, they can pop round and fix Tibidabo's boiler! The mother-in-law's just fine now, but thanks for the sentiment! I share everyone's horror with everything about this. Also, I love Michael Crawford and went to see him last year in The Go Between. He seemed frail and a wispy shadow of his former, extraordinary self. I regretted seeing the show. I really hope whatever they get him to do somehow manages to demonstrate his talents.
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Post by sf on Dec 8, 2017 17:41:11 GMT
I'm sure I'll really enjoy not watching it. I might even not watch it more than once.
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Post by richey on Dec 24, 2017 19:25:03 GMT
Oh dear. It's really not great is it.
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Post by Someone in a tree on Dec 24, 2017 19:35:55 GMT
Denise Lewis was terrible
I’m hopeful for Rebecca Front
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Post by anthony40 on Dec 24, 2017 19:48:32 GMT
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. Why?
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Post by talkstageytome on Dec 24, 2017 19:49:41 GMT
Watching it now. Uninspired song choices and are they miming?
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Post by richey on Dec 24, 2017 19:51:17 GMT
Michael Crawford's not doing much!
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Post by Boob on Dec 24, 2017 19:54:38 GMT
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Post by steve10086 on Dec 24, 2017 20:08:35 GMT
All these “stars” fawning over Crawford as the master of musical theatre should have seen him in Dance of the Vampires...
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Post by Phantom of London on Dec 24, 2017 20:22:45 GMT
Just seen all the ‘professional’ actors ‘sing’ and let me say to all of them - don’t give up your day jobs, but what seeing these people who done all the songs no justice at all made me appreciate more, how great the people who we pay to see, that unknown featured actor who delivers that song brilliantly and consistently 8 Times a week, who do not get recognised and pick up a meagre paycheck and yet so much more talented.
Just hope they don’t do a cast recording.
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Post by johartuk on Dec 24, 2017 20:26:54 GMT
"Our very first 'All Star Musicals' winner" - does that mean they're going to do it again at some point?
It seems to have gone on forever! And none of the 'All Stars' was gobsmackingly good or entertainingly bad - they were just...meh!
It might have worked a bit better if each 'All Star' had a WE performer to help them, rather than just having Michael Crawford helping them all.
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Post by musicalmarge on Dec 24, 2017 21:05:22 GMT
"Our very first 'All Star Musicals' winner" - does that mean they're going to do it again at some point? It seems to have gone on forever! And none of the 'All Stars' was gobsmackingly good or entertainingly bad - they were just...meh! It might have worked a bit better if each 'All Star' had a WE performer to help them, rather than just having Michael Crawford helping them all. ITV is celeb obsessed network that cares more about ratings and revenue than talent. That Sheridan show (I mean sure she’s ok) and this DREADFUL offering proves it. Think of all the sensational musical theatre talent we have and then there is THIS!! The commissioning editor should be shot.
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Post by karloscar on Dec 24, 2017 21:26:04 GMT
So they think\know there's an audience for music theatre on television. Why not get the best young talent and a few established names to do it to a really high standard, rather than feed us half-baked, badly performed turns where someone is the "winner"? The production costs won't be any different, but the quality infinitely better.
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Post by djp on Dec 24, 2017 21:36:16 GMT
Pellow's job is safe. Why would people who can't sing well enter a singing competition? And probably the most pleasant rendition won, so at least the audience proved not comnpletely tone deaf.
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Post by steve10086 on Dec 24, 2017 21:42:12 GMT
So they think\know there's an audience for music theatre on television. Is that it though? Or is it that there’s an audience for “celebrities” doing anything... up to and including eating kangaroo c*ck. How many ITV viewers would have bothered watching this without it being “All Star...”?
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Post by shady23 on Dec 24, 2017 22:36:25 GMT
They couldn't even be bothered to credit the amazing ensemble in the credits.
I'm throwing Quality Street at the screen in outrage!
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Post by richey on Dec 24, 2017 22:38:54 GMT
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Post by steve10086 on Dec 24, 2017 22:44:08 GMT
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Post by musicalmarge on Dec 24, 2017 23:03:18 GMT
So they think\know there's an audience for music theatre on television. Why not get the best young talent and a few established names to do it to a really high standard, rather than feed us half-baked, badly performed turns where someone is the "winner"? The production costs won't be any different, but the quality infinitely better. The answer to this is easy. The general public doesn’t know who Louise Dearman or Kerry Ellis is. My family wouldn’t have a clue - they would know the cast of Corrie, Loose Women or Freddie Flintoff. It’s annoying beyond words but that’s the sad reality. Even established musical theatre names Elaine Paige, John Barrowman and Micheal Ball aside won’t be seen to bring in ratings for the demographic wanted.
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Post by karloscar on Dec 24, 2017 23:26:54 GMT
Plenty of talentless idiots become household names on reality shows, so having some triple threat talent on telly might raise their profiles and the result is win win.
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Post by bellboard27 on Dec 25, 2017 10:26:19 GMT
So they think\know there's an audience for music theatre on television. Why not get the best young talent and a few established names to do it to a really high standard, rather than feed us half-baked, badly performed turns where someone is the "winner"? The production costs won't be any different, but the quality infinitely better. The answer to this is easy. The general public doesn’t know who Louise Dearman or Kerry Ellis is. My family wouldn’t have a clue - they would know the cast of Corrie, Loose Women or Freddie Flintoff. It’s annoying beyond words but that’s the sad reality. Even established musical theatre names Elaine Paige, John Barrowman and Micheal Ball aside won’t be seen to bring in ratings for the demographic wanted. Very sad, but very true.
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Post by HereForTheatre on Dec 25, 2017 10:36:24 GMT
The thing is, the actors amongst those contestants all probably went to stage school, they all probably are trained, most people on soaps and tv are. Idon't really see being known more for tv than stage roles should be held against them. What just because they happened to be offered a big tv role before a stage one? And also does anyone think that these leading musical theatre stars don't/didn't audition for tv too? Cus they all pretty much did and do. You know the difference between someone like Rachel Tucker being known for stage rather than tv and seen as a credible theatre actress? That she was given that opportunity first. That's all.
Lucy Fallon there probably auditioned for theatre before she got the role on Corrie. If she was cast in something on the West End she might be a big theatre star, but because she instead took a role on Corrie she's seen as a pretender and not credible and should stick to the cobbles and not 'infect' the west end.
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Post by crabtree on Dec 25, 2017 11:22:38 GMT
It is simply a horrendously produced naff idea, following in the footsteps of that ghastly Pop Star to Opera star or whatever that cringe worthy programme was.
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Post by junet on Dec 25, 2017 15:02:25 GMT
I really enjoyed it.
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Post by musicalmarge on Dec 25, 2017 15:41:01 GMT
Plenty of talentless idiots become household names on reality shows, so having some triple threat talent on telly might raise their profiles and the result is win win. The sad reality is that so much talent on ITV comes from reality TV shows now (which basically cast people off the street), the rest are kids TV presenters who worked their way up, ex sportstars with strong agents, the odd soap actor who play themselves, former pop stars (mostly manufactures by ITV) comedians and chefs etc. I would ADORE for half the amazingly talented people I know to have raised national profiles but the reality is it is very very difficult. Also annoyingly difficult for musical theatre performers is to even pbe seen as “actors” and even get auditions for straight theatre work or TV roles. They could be just as good if not better, but that’s the industry that puts people in boxes. Very few make the jump. Win win sadly it’s not.....
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Post by kathryn on Dec 25, 2017 18:10:55 GMT
The thing is, the actors amongst those contestants all probably went to stage school, they all probably are trained, most people on soaps and tv are. Idon't really see being known more for tv than stage roles should be held against them. What just because they happened to be offered a big tv role before a stage one? And also does anyone think that these leading musical theatre stars don't/didn't audition for tv too? Cus they all pretty much did and do. You know the difference between someone like Rachel Tucker being known for stage rather than tv and seen as a credible theatre actress? That she was given that opportunity first. That's all. Lucy Fallon there probably auditioned for theatre before she got the role on Corrie. If she was cast in something on the West End she might be a big theatre star, but because she instead took a role on Corrie she's seen as a pretender and not credible and should stick to the cobbles and not 'infect' the west end. While this is true, there’s no doubt that some of the performances on the show were well below-par and would not be seen on stage in the West End. It’s a shame that Christmas Eve telly audiences don’t get treated to excellent musical theatre performances. Even the winner wasn’t that good.
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Post by musicalmarge on Dec 26, 2017 7:25:10 GMT
The thing is, the actors amongst those contestants all probably went to stage school, they all probably are trained, most people on soaps and tv are. Idon't really see being known more for tv than stage roles should be held against them. What just because they happened to be offered a big tv role before a stage one? And also does anyone think that these leading musical theatre stars don't/didn't audition for tv too? Cus they all pretty much did and do. You know the difference between someone like Rachel Tucker being known for stage rather than tv and seen as a credible theatre actress? That she was given that opportunity first. That's all. Lucy Fallon there probably auditioned for theatre before she got the role on Corrie. If she was cast in something on the West End she might be a big theatre star, but because she instead took a role on Corrie she's seen as a pretender and not credible and should stick to the cobbles and not 'infect' the west end. I went to one of the top 5 “stage schools” and indeed some of my class mates have been in soaps - take it from me, 3/4’s of them (including ones who worked on TV) still weren’t that good. A soap audition is one or two meetings reading an easy script usually typecasting you to who you are in real life, musical auditions have panels of up to 20 people and you can be recalled over 10 times.
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Post by theatreian on Feb 26, 2021 10:33:29 GMT
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Post by mrbarnaby on Feb 26, 2021 23:19:02 GMT
This all sounds horrific. I can’t wait.
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