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Post by wiggymess on Aug 3, 2017 11:55:02 GMT
Think this is the right place for this? Mod can move if not. Be interested to hear when you have all heard laughter at the theatre and been baffled as to why someone would find that particular thing funny. Or laughter that really took you out of the moment. Inspired by listening to Matthew Xia on the 'Off The Book' Young Vic podcast talking about being surprised at people laughing during Blue/Orange. I have to agree. Blue/Orange - As mentioned in the podcast, when Christopher has his breakdown, there was a lot of laughter when I went. Shopping & F---ing The night I was there, a couple of guys in the front row seemed to find everything hilarious. That play is difficult to take seriously at the best of times, but even the harsher scenes were slightly ruined by it. Angels In America - {Spoiler - click to view} Various points in part one, leading to someone on here rightly wondering if they had added a laughter track Especially just after the bible burning. Mosquitoes - {Spoiler - click to view} The attempted overdose scene, a lot of people seemed to find it funny. Baffling.
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Post by Elisa on Aug 3, 2017 12:15:42 GMT
I can't remember specific moments, but I'm actually one of those. Sometimes I laugh when nobody does. I also tend not to laugh when the others do. Say that the audience laugh 20 times during a play: I will join the laugh maybe 10 times (and possibly being annoyed at the other ten) and then adding one or two of my own. I don't know if my extra laughs are inappropriate, but I often feel that audiences tend to laugh too much. I'm rarely bothered by a single person random laugh anyway; I find a collective laugh much more disruptive when I don't understand what they're laughing at.
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Post by TallPaul on Aug 3, 2017 12:23:29 GMT
Just about all of Travesties. There's only the bit under the dress that is genuinely funny.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2017 12:31:26 GMT
Some people find it difficult to understand the relation between content and tone, I think. They pick up on an element that suggests it should be funny and that overrides the other elements telling them that it isn't. A good example is if there is a mistake; instant laughter even if in the middle of tragedy. Occasionally it is through embarrassment, seen often in young audiences or having jumped when a gun has gone off or something.
With Angels and such plays there is a deliberate mix of comedy and tragedy, and the tendency to veer between different moods requires an audience that is quick to pick up on such cues. Elliott does deliberately create grey areas in her direction throughout, however, so I think the laughter is meant, mirroring real lfe situations where serious issues are dealt with flippantly, leaving people unsure as to how to take what they are hearing.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2017 12:39:36 GMT
I think there's also the really fine line of 'laugh or you cry' which, as it's already been brought up, Angels walks for most of the play. It is, as above, also infused with both dark and farcical humour. And it's the laughter that makes the tragedy more profound (and other clichés). Plus it's just got bloody funny writing. Also in the spoiler- tagged moment I think it IS supposed to be a bit amusing- the utter ridiculousness of the situation, the over the top reaction etc. can have a humorous effect.
Also, as it's a recent example, a friend of mine at the NT Live screening was the only one laughing at some points, because there are some very specific American (and generational) references, that funny enough only my Atlanta born in the 70s friend was getting. So people probably thought she was being 'inappropriate' when actually in that case they really didn't get the joke...
In general I'm wary of saying what is or isn't appropriate to laugh at as it's so subjective. And also fairly involuntary, haven't we all laughed instinctively then thought 'oh f*** that's not actually funny' when the penny drops?
I do agree people sometimes laugh to show how much they 'get' it...Shakespeare audiences I'm looking at you there.
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Post by crowblack on Aug 3, 2017 12:48:34 GMT
Something similar with the person next to me - it's a dark comedy and the sexting scene is initially quite comic, before the twist turns it cruel - as Luke collapses in a ball of anguish and I was thinking of media stories of teenage boys committing suicide over similar, the woman next to me was laughing
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Post by peggs on Aug 3, 2017 12:49:39 GMT
I do agree people sometimes laugh to show how much they 'get' it...Shakespeare audiences I'm looking at you there. Oh yes the eternal 'I'm smart and get this joke that no one else understands', have sat by a few of those in my time, I think sometimes the word comedy in a title or description makes people think it must all be funny although as noted above with some plays it weaves between comedy and tragedy pretty quickly and half the impact is that you were laughing a few seconds earlier and suddenly find yourself faced with something you didn't see coming. I live in hope that I'll watch a Much ado one day that won't generate laughter on the kill Claudio line but suspect that one is unrealistic.
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Post by wiggymess on Aug 3, 2017 13:02:35 GMT
Some well-thought out points. I think it also has to do with:
1) theatre audiences generally seem to be fairly warm and encouraging towards what they're seeing, so sometimes that good will translates into almost waiting to laugh. 2) pretty human nature to laugh when something is awkward, confusing etc.
Of course, I'm not trying to lambaste anyone for laughing. Whether it's out of place, on their own, or awkwardly etc. And I should have made it clear, I'm generally talking about when large amounts of people find something funny that I've thought isn't intended to be so. But I have found that sometimes it really jolts me out of the moment when I'm confused as to why people are laughing. And as has been said, occasionally a chunk of the audience isn't able to grasp the context or the sudden change in context particularly quickly.
Re AiA perhaps I was in the minority. I found that particular moment really haunting and powerful and the laughter almost instantly took me out of the mode. Comparing it with the ending of part one - I didn't want to move from my seat and I was in that 'mode' for about an hour and a half afterwards. I wondered if the over reaction from Andrew Garfield was a result of the laughter of previous audiences meaning he was playing up to it slightly. Although I'll happily to defer to others with more knowledge than mine.
Just shows how subjective it all is - inappropriate is probably the wrong word.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2017 13:16:27 GMT
wiggymess honestly didn't take what you said in a negative way it's a bugbear of mine (in the I'm so clever I get the joke context) and a fascination. Re: Angels, I share your reaction. And I don't deal well with fire/loud things so frankly at that point I'm frozen to my seat in fear I really hate it (which is in some respects the desired effect) BUT I think at that point in the play a lot of people are still in the 'aw silly campy Andrew Garfield' headspace so they laugh at him being over-dramatic (seemingly, frankly I'd be through a wall if that happened in real life not just up a chair!) In terms of the ending of part 1 I always chuckle at the 'Very Stephen Speilberg' line but it's almost a nervous laugh, because it IS a good line, but also the dialogue at the back of my mind is going 'ohf***ohf***ohf***' at the impending...arrival. All this said there's the opposite moment when you are the only one NOT laughing. Richard Bean I'm looking at you...
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2017 13:27:32 GMT
I very often laugh when I'm not supposed to at the theatre.
Usually, it's because I'm jacked up on Martinis.
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Post by wiggymess on Aug 3, 2017 13:32:46 GMT
wiggymess honestly didn't take what you said in a negative way it's a bugbear of mine (in the I'm so clever I get the joke context) and a fascination. Re: Angels, I share your reaction. And I don't deal well with fire/loud things so frankly at that point I'm frozen to my seat in fear I really hate it (which is in some respects the desired effect) BUT I think at that point in the play a lot of people are still in the 'aw silly campy Andrew Garfield' headspace so they laugh at him being over-dramatic (seemingly, frankly I'd be through a wall if that happened in real life not just up a chair!) In terms of the ending of part 1 I always chuckle at the 'Very Stephen Speilberg' line but it's almost a nervous laugh, because it IS a good line, but also the dialogue at the back of my mind is going 'ohf***ohf***ohf***' at the impending...arrival. All this said there's the opposite moment when you are the only one NOT laughing. Richard Bean I'm looking at you... I know you didn't but it's a fair point about his reaction. Maybe the idea is that it IS played for a laugh to relax the tension? I just know that if I'd created something so tense (it's done so well, and it's really NOT easy to pull off), it would annoy me if the after-effect was only allowed to last about 2 seconds, as it did as an audience member. I wonder if, as mentioned in the AiA thread, the woman coming out before the start and telling people to vocalise their reactions or whatever she said, did help build an atmosphere, or just make the audience feel like they should be acting in certain way. I found AiA very funny - I also like the Speilberg bit. When I think back to that scene, it did feel like the humour of that line was played so well. To me, it's definitely Prior trying to calm himself with humour, and it really did feel like the entire audience was laughing VERY nervously. I was!
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Post by Someone in a tree on Aug 3, 2017 14:19:49 GMT
"We buried her in a footprint"
In relation to Rapunzel's death in Into the woods. Annoys me every time when someone laughs
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2017 14:46:02 GMT
"We buried her in a footprint" In relation to Rapunzel's death in Into the woods. Annoys me every time when someone laughs
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2017 14:51:37 GMT
Laughing in Bent during the scene where they can't touch but have 'sex' through talking and imagining. Incredibly powerful, and each time I've seen it (in the Alan Cumming version and the NT reading) some buggers have sniggered and ruined it. I get that it's an intense scene and that some people feel a bit embarrassed or uncomfortable, but honestly if you're over 12 there's no excuse.
Unfortunately I've just ruined my moral high ground by sniggering at Alan Cumming's surname.
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Post by bellboard27 on Aug 3, 2017 15:11:59 GMT
I was recently at a one woman show in n the US and one guy was laughing loudly at every little thing to the point of absurdity. It was starting to put the performer off. Fortunately the story took a dark turn that even this guy could not continue to laugh at.
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Post by vdcni on Aug 3, 2017 15:22:57 GMT
I had it in part 2 of Angels recently. They were mainly laughing at the funny lines to be fair but it was just how much they were laughing that stood out. Any even mildly amusing line was greeted with such a level of hysteria and reaction (head in their laps, hand over face in shock at sexual lines) it felt completely fake. It's odd enough when 1 person does it but there was a group of 4 of them and in the front row which must have been distracting.
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Post by kathryn on Aug 3, 2017 15:56:43 GMT
The Old Vic Lear had people laughing when Gloucester had his eyes put out. Not sure if it was really inappropriate, because it seemed to be what the production was going for....
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Post by sherriebythesea on Aug 3, 2017 19:10:38 GMT
I laughed way more than I thought I would at Angels but it was so funny, especially in the delivery
eta: some of it was you had to laugh or you would cry
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Post by Jane Parfitt on Aug 3, 2017 19:42:16 GMT
After the gunshot that makes everyone jump in the emotionally charged scene at the end of Blood Brothers, particularly if there are large school groups in. Kind of kills the moment!
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Post by Mr Snow on Aug 3, 2017 21:02:41 GMT
About every second 'adventurous' choice we make at the Edinburgh Festival is memorable for the one person who is smart enough to appreciate this comic masterpiece which is never heard of again. Often you can see it distracting the performers.
Sorry to be insensitive but when you are the ONLY one laughing out loud a lot, then just maybe you might consider the effect you have on those others and on the performers. I went to the Opera one night with a friend who as the lights went down swallowed two Nurofen, Stops me twitching he said.
A sensitive person can moderate their behaviour.
(Not that I'd know. )
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Post by Backdrifter on Aug 3, 2017 22:28:07 GMT
Inappropriate laughter can sometimes include Overlaughing, but they're not necessarily always the same thing.
The "Shakespearean" / "I get this bit" laugh is a subset of The Knowing Laugh. This is often a sort of smug-sounding "hmmm hmmm hmmm" with a very particular inflection.
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Post by Kim_Bahorel on Aug 3, 2017 23:25:17 GMT
I go to shows more than once if I really like it I can end up seeing it 6 plus times. With this in mind I do have a tendency to laugh at funny things but sometimes I do it before its even happened. I had to physically put my hand over my mouth to stop myself laughing during one scene of Clockwork Orange.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2017 0:18:28 GMT
About every second 'adventurous' choice we make at the Edinburgh Festival is memorable for the one person who is smart enough to appreciate this comic masterpiece which is never heard of again. Often you can see it distracting the performers. Sorry to be insensitive but when you are the ONLY one laughing out loud a lot, then just maybe you might consider the effect you have on those others and on the performers. I went to the Opera one night with a friend who as the lights went down swallowed two Nurofen, Stops me twitching he said. A sensitive person can moderate their behaviour. (Not that I'd know. ) More often than not they are also 'friends of the company' and think that they are helping. I've had to suffer that a number of times.
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Post by loureviews on Aug 4, 2017 6:32:28 GMT
The Old Vic Lear had people laughing when Gloucester had his eyes put out. Not sure if it was really inappropriate, because it seemed to be what the production was going for.... People tend to laugh at the line 'I have no eyes' as well, which is annoying.
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Post by loureviews on Aug 4, 2017 6:34:59 GMT
Not a play but John Cleese's show at the Cadogan Hall a while back. We were sitting directly behind his good friend, actor Nicky Henson, and if you want an example of a loud and irritating laugh, he's your man!
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