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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2017 8:45:57 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2017 9:06:25 GMT
Being an ex pat I know very little about him but reading up on him he seems like a good choice in the current political climate. A friend of Nigel Farage, zero hour contract supporter, anti same sex marriage and sympathiser of Donald Trump. What more does the UK need?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2017 11:28:56 GMT
So, if May is defenstrated we get either Johnson, Rees Mogg or Davis? God help us. To think that just a few years ago they had a team that had gained an increased majority (albeit by having their coalition partners take the flack) and had a top team that was running rings around Labour. now they are just a laughing stock.
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Post by lynette on Jul 23, 2017 15:20:06 GMT
I would have said, Rees-Mogg don't be daft but then Corbyn happened and daftness isn't confined to only one political party. We seem to be moving towards wanting a 'personality' as Prime Minister, as the Americans want one for their President.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2017 16:59:38 GMT
I think that as far as most of the country is concerned what people want is for our elected government to actually run the f***ing country and not indulge in pathetic internal power games. I don't like the Conservatives and I don't like Theresa May, but the Conservatives are the largest party in the House of Commons and Theresa May is their leader whether we like it or not, and right now they have a job to do and when they're squabbling amongst themselves they're not bloody doing it.
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Post by Phantom of London on Jul 23, 2017 17:07:11 GMT
So, if May is defenstrated we get either Johnson, Rees Mogg or Davis? God help us. To think that just a few years ago they had a team that had gained an increased majority (albeit by having their coalition partners take the flack) and had a top team that was running rings around Labour. now they are just a laughing stock. I would say neither of those. the only person who could win an election for the Tories right now? That would be David Cameron, but he's ancient history. Boris Johnson, is there anyone who is more narcissistic in politics? The Tory party think he is to much of an idiot, hence why he didn't run 2 years ago, no Tory would back him, despite having a campaign manager. They just role out the photo of him next to the bus. Rees Mogg, stands for everything I can't stand, that's why I quite like him, however he is too prim and proper and stuffy, bit like William Haque. Best bet of the 3 but David Cameron whooped him when he crumbled giving a speech at the party conference. Liam Fox normally comes out of the closet when there is a leadership conference on, but has no chance. Amber Rudd would be an inspired choice, however she just got across the line in the general election, would the party risk someone who might lose their seat. A complete outsider and I would think would be excellent and that is Heidi Allen, a member of blue fox, remember this was part of Theresa Mays downfall and being anti fox hunting would be very attractive to a lot of Tories, Lib Dems and maybe new labour types, also a remainder and could negotiate a reasonable deal to stay in Europe, she is also intelligent and attractive. Sajid Javid could be possible. Phillip Hammond has got 2 hopes and 1 of those is no hope. |
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Post by Phantom of London on Jul 23, 2017 17:14:50 GMT
I think that as far as most of the country is concerned what people want is for our elected government to actually run the f***ing country and not indulge in pathetic internal power games. I don't like the Conservatives and I don't like Theresa May, but the Conservatives are the largest party in the House of Commons and Theresa May is their leader whether we like it or not, and right now they have a job to do and when they're squabbling amongst themselves they're not bloody doing it. She is the leader, but she run the general election as she "has no mandate". So losing 12 seats and the conservatives no longer in government what mandate does she have now? Brexit has caused the Prime Minister to resign then bring down the government. Labour got a dream result where they came so close to winning, but have a lot of power now, but don't need to get their hands dirty with Brexit, same reason why no Tory MPs are running against May. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2017 17:29:19 GMT
The one who has proven electoral success is Ruth Davidson but she'd be mad to try and take the poisoned chalice now, wait until whatever happens over Brexit to happen and she'd be best placed to pick up the pieces. Anna Soubry would provide great entertainment value but she has even less chance than anyone else mentioned.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2017 17:49:43 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2017 18:10:13 GMT
The one who has proven electoral success is Ruth Davidson but she'd be mad to try and take the poisoned chalice now. Not least because she's not an MP. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2017 18:25:42 GMT
The one who has proven electoral success is Ruth Davidson but she'd be mad to try and take the poisoned chalice now. Not least because she's not an MP. Easy enough to do, find an aging MP in a seat with a large majority, get them to stand down and have a by election. |
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Post by Phantom of London on Jul 23, 2017 18:51:28 GMT
The one who has proven electoral success is Ruth Davidson but she'd be mad to try and take the poisoned chalice now, wait until whatever happens over Brexit to happen and she'd be best placed to pick up the pieces. Anna Soubry would provide great entertainment value but she has even less chance than anyone else mentioned. She is excellent and I quite like her and she could easily lead the Tory party once she comes MP. However it is no coincidence she is doing well in Scotland, but would her politics work in Chesham or Tunbridge Wells? |
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Post by Phantom of London on Jul 23, 2017 18:54:09 GMT
C'mon, how racist is that. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2017 23:57:40 GMT
Gove and Leadsom might stand again, Boris would be the populist choice but is he a loose cannon. David Davis a short term pro Brexit safe pair of hands. Hammond perhaps would have been better choice than May last year but may be seen as too much like her.
JRM has had no cabinet experience and whilst he undoubtedly plays on his very stuffy image and can be very humourous could be really connect with middle-working classing Tory voters. Ruth Davidson - best thing to happen to Scottish Torys for a long time but may want to become first minister more than come down to Westminster. Like Boris she has the popular touch but would more traditional party members give her the required support to be elected party leader I wonder.
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