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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2017 22:31:28 GMT
Look, I love some of the shows that transfer from Broadway, but wouldn't it be great to have a completely new show in the West End? Like The Girls, Bend it Like Beckham, The Go-Between, Made in Dagenham, Mrs Henderson Presents, I Can't Sing, Stephen Ward, From Here to Eternity, Loserville..... None of these shows were profitable. Heck, none of them even ended up touring (only the Girls will tour it seems) That doesn't mean we shouldn't keep trying. It's fine to have the best Broadway shows transfer. I for example am a huge fan of Wicked. But I don't think it's okay for the West End to be swamped with Broadway transfers and become a sort of second-hand Broadway. There are currently 19 musicals on in the West End. 12 of them originated on Broadway. 2 others have announced that they'll be closing.
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2017 22:50:18 GMT
I personally am ready for any show starring Rachel Tucker in the lead role. Maybe a solo, original show, three hours long, with her just singing her ass off.
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Post by Cardinal Pirelli on May 28, 2017 23:38:09 GMT
I personally am ready for any show starring Rachel Tucker in the lead role. Maybe a solo, original show, three hours long, with her just singing her ass off. I'd be interested in seeing The Last Ship somewhere here. There are few shows that I think are worthy of a production here though, now that we are getting Fun Home and Hamilton. Natasha, Pierre etc., surely as Rachel Chavkin has a record of bringing interesting work over here. A very long shot but Bridges of Madison County for somewhere like Chichester.
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2017 23:47:22 GMT
I personally am ready for any show starring Rachel Tucker in the lead role. Maybe a solo, original show, three hours long, with her just singing her ass off. I'd be interested in seeing The Last Ship somewhere here. There are few shows that I think are worthy of a production here though, now that we are getting Fun Home and Hamilton. Natasha, Pierre etc., surely as Rachel Chavkin has a record of bringing interesting work over here. A very long shot but Bridges of Madison County for somewhere like Chichester. I completely agree, I am ready for The Last Ship to come over here. It should of started here, it had way more of a chance at succeeding here than on Broadway. However, if it does come over... one or two (three) more solos for Ms. Tucker please.
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Post by Being Alive on May 28, 2017 23:48:25 GMT
I strangely thought that Bridges of Madison County would do well at Chichester too!
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2017 23:58:41 GMT
Like The Girls, Bend it Like Beckham, The Go-Between, Made in Dagenham, Mrs Henderson Presents, I Can't Sing, Stephen Ward, From Here to Eternity, Loserville..... None of these shows were profitable. Heck, none of them even ended up touring (only the Girls will tour it seems) That doesn't mean we shouldn't keep trying. It's fine to have the best Broadway shows transfer. I for example am a huge fan of Wicked. But I don't think it's okay for the West End to be swamped with Broadway transfers and become a sort of second-hand Broadway. There are currently 19 musicals on in the West End. 12 of them originated on Broadway. 2 others have announced that they'll be closing. Agreed! We must keep trying! And for me the shows I saw from that list (Dagenham, Mrs Henderson, I Can't Sing and Stephen Ward) I really really enjoyed! Hope they will have a continued life at some point....
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Post by LaLuPone on May 29, 2017 7:01:43 GMT
I personally am ready for any show starring Rachel Tucker in the lead role. Maybe a solo, original show, three hours long, with her just singing her ass off. Yes.
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2017 8:20:12 GMT
I personally am ready for any show starring Rachel Tucker in the lead role. Maybe a solo, original show, three hours long, with her just singing her ass off. I'd be interested in seeing The Last Ship somewhere here. There are few shows that I think are worthy of a production here though, now that we are getting Fun Home and Hamilton. Natasha, Pierre etc., surely as Rachel Chavkin has a record of bringing interesting work over here. A very long shot but Bridges of Madison County for somewhere like Chichester. Oh yes! I've been praying for the Last Ship to come over. I love the score. It should do a lot better in London, especially if Rachel Tucker reprised her role.
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Post by ali973 on May 29, 2017 12:49:36 GMT
I don't think The Last Ship could "come over" even if it wanted to. It looks like that production has died-- whatever chances they have, they will need to start from scratch. It seemed to me a very hard show to sell or market. If it wasn't for Sting, I couldn't have seen it taking off. I feel like we need to learn a lesson from The Last Ship and The Girls. Just because they are written by famous pop artists, it doesn't mean they can do well or will necessarily get major support.
I think Waitress needs to find its way to London soon. Londoners will love its cheesy caricature of the American south, the leading lady character and her sidekicks as well as the story.
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2017 14:35:20 GMT
I think Waitress needs to find its way to London soon. Londoners will love its cheesy caricature of the American south, the leading lady character and her sidekicks as well as the story. I would be nervous about producing Waitress over here. Once the musical theatre fans have seen it, I think it would struggle to find an audience.
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2017 14:35:31 GMT
I think Waitress needs to find its way to London soon. Londoners will love its cheesy caricature of the American south, the leading lady character and her sidekicks as well as the story. I would be nervous about producing Waitress over here. Once the musical theatre fans have seen it, I think it would struggle to find an audience.
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Post by zak97 on May 29, 2017 14:39:00 GMT
I think Waitress needs to find its way to London soon. Londoners will love its cheesy caricature of the American south, the leading lady character and her sidekicks as well as the story. I would be nervous about producing Waitress over here. Once the musical theatre fans have seen it, I think it would struggle to find an audience. I agree, it is sadly too niche for London. If an adaptation of the Calendar Girls brand can't sell out 1,000 seats, I very much doubt a show titled 'Waitress' would be able to do the same. Come to think of it, what was the last musical in London, that wasn't a transfer from Broadway (i.e. new, not a late transfer as in Memphis or Scoundrels), that endured a run of more than a year.
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Post by theatre-turtle on May 29, 2017 14:44:40 GMT
Sunny afternoon?
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Post by zak97 on May 29, 2017 14:59:30 GMT
And even that was heavily discounting towards the end if I remember rightly. I honestly doubt we will see something special go into either of these theatres.
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Post by theatre-turtle on May 29, 2017 15:00:39 GMT
And even that was heavily discounting towards the end if I remember rightly. I honestly doubt we will see something special go into either of these theatres. Yeah for much of the last year it was closing the top two tiers and offering £15 stalls tickets
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2017 15:05:37 GMT
I don't think The Last Ship could "come over" even if it wanted to. It looks like that production has died-- whatever chances they have, they will need to start from scratch. It seemed to me a very hard show to sell or market. If it wasn't for Sting, I couldn't have seen it taking off. True. I think it could to quite well in the fringe though, because it is a pretty good show (I saw a bootleg). It isn't brilliant, but it's certainly enjoyable in my opinion.
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Post by zak97 on May 29, 2017 15:08:44 GMT
I just hope we don't get two more jukebox musicals. Seeing as the Phoenix is ATG, something will go in there, regardless of quality. A short run of a play wouldn't shock me. I'm hoping Nederlander will have something good lined up for the Aldwych, mainly because they will have had the benefit of foresight with respect to ticket sales to eye potential future occupiers once it was generally decided Beautiful would close. I would like Groundhog Day but I don't think three months in the case of Aldwych, or two months for the Phoenix, is enough time to build up any substantial hype for any new musical, unless it is a touring show that is coming in. Unless, the theatres go dark.
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2017 15:13:48 GMT
I imagine they will throw something in short term because these closing dates are so close, but then something long term to follow. So probably one will be a limited run of a play, probably a star lead one to get fast ticket sales going. And then (sorry, I know a lot don't want it) a limited run of a touring production of a musical or something to fill until a suitable long runner can come in.
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Post by zak97 on May 29, 2017 15:16:44 GMT
Realistically what touring musicals could come in, there aren't any obvious thoughts that spring to mind - apart from RENT, which I imagine could be as hard to sell as The Girls has been.
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2017 15:25:31 GMT
Realistically what touring musicals could come in, there aren't any obvious thoughts that spring to mind - apart from RENT, which I imagine could be as hard to sell as The Girls has been. Rent would be a thought, but I don't imagine that will happen quite yet anyway.
As said before, Poppins could pop by.
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Post by zak97 on May 29, 2017 15:28:50 GMT
Realistically what touring musicals could come in, there aren't any obvious thoughts that spring to mind - apart from RENT, which I imagine could be as hard to sell as The Girls has been. Rent would be a thought, but I don't imagine that will happen quite yet anyway.
As said before, Poppins could pop by.
I'd love Poppins in the Aldwych
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Post by mrbarnaby on May 29, 2017 16:11:41 GMT
I love how people on here have no clue about the scale of a show and how small some theatres are.
Yes let's put Poppins in the aldwych. You'll have to leave 2/3 of the cast and set outside but yes it will be brilliant!
While we're at it maybe the Lion King could go to the Criterion?
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Post by poster J on May 29, 2017 16:14:48 GMT
I love how people on here have no clue about the scale of a show and how small some theatres are. Yes let's put Poppins in the aldwych. You'll have to leave 2/3 of the cast and set outside but yes it will be brilliant! While we're at it maybe the Lion King could go to the Criterion? There's no need to be so snarky! Just because you might know more about the technical side of theatre than some other people doesn't give you the right to lord it over them. People are entitled to wish whatever show they like comes in, because that's all anyone is saying! No wonder we get people saying they're scared to post on here for the first time in case their opinions (because that's all they are, of course) get ridiculed...
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Post by poster J on May 29, 2017 16:18:42 GMT
Like The Girls, Bend it Like Beckham, The Go-Between, Made in Dagenham, Mrs Henderson Presents, I Can't Sing, Stephen Ward, From Here to Eternity, Loserville..... None of these shows were profitable. Heck, none of them even ended up touring (only the Girls will tour it seems) That doesn't mean we shouldn't keep trying. It's fine to have the best Broadway shows transfer. I for example am a huge fan of Wicked. But I don't think it's okay for the West End to be swamped with Broadway transfers and become a sort of second-hand Broadway. There are currently 19 musicals on in the West End. 12 of them originated on Broadway. 2 others have announced that they'll be closing. I disagree - if Broadway has a load of interesting shows, then the sooner they come over, the better, especially if homegrown shows aren't proving popular. There simply seem to be more successful/interesting (in my opinion) ideas on the other side of the pond at the minute, so why shouldn't they come over? Not all of us can afford to make frequent trips to New York...
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2017 16:20:15 GMT
Maybe Carrie will finally haul ass and come from the Southwark to the West End? Though it couldn't sell a theatre of that size, it would likely go to somewhere like Charring Cross Theatre.
I think the best guesses are Groundhog Day, which was a hit here prior to Broadway and could have success again, and Waitress, which I wouldn't be at all surprised to see come over.
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2017 16:40:16 GMT
Maybe Carrie will finally haul ass and come from the Southwark to the West End? Though it couldn't sell a theatre of that size, it would likely go to somewhere like Charring Cross Theatre. I think the best guesses are Groundhog Day, which was a hit here prior to Broadway and could have success again, and Waitress, which I wouldn't be at all surprised to see come over. I would love to see a transfer of Carrie. I've reached that stage where I've seen everything I want to see in London at the moment, even repeat viewing-wise. The only ones I'm excited for are Follies and Hamilton (and Pinocchio when it's officially announced and available). I'm spending a lot more money on visiting the regional venues than I am the West End for the foreseeable future. I'm really keen to have a show with a darker edge, like Carrie, The Exorcist or American Psycho.
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2017 16:43:04 GMT
We have too many happy shows in London, we need something darker. With a lot of murder, deception, lies and existential crisis.
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2017 16:51:06 GMT
My predictions are Tina Turner musical to open at the Aldwych in the Spring preceded by a play, Groundhog Day to go to the Piccadilly unless it does disastrously at the Tonys and they lose confidence, maybe Waitress to the Phoenix as Once did ok there and they would attract a similar audience. Possibly a touring musical maybe shoe-horned in to the Phoenix if a long term production isn't ready until the New Year. Doesn't leave anywhere for Strictly Ballroom which has been looking for a London home.
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2017 16:55:26 GMT
My predictions are Tina Turner musical to open at the Aldwych in the Spring preceded by a play, Groundhog Day to go to the Piccadilly unless it does disastrously at the Tonys and they lose confidence, maybe Waitress to the Phoenix as Once did ok there and they would attract a similar audience. Possibly a touring musical maybe shoe-horned in to the Phoenix if a long term production isn't ready until the New Year. Doesn't leave anywhere for Strictly Ballroom which has been looking for a London home. Well the trouble there is Groundhog Day isn't going to do well at the Tonys, and I'm sure they are aware of that. Not that they don't deserve to win or that they are not good enough, but its competition is really strong. Its best bet is Andy Karl being the spoiler winner for Best Actor over Ben Platt, but that is about 90% not gonna happen. But I doubt that will make them lose confidence in bringing it back, especially as it had a successful run here before, had great reviews and won two Olivier Awards, including Best New Musical.
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Post by stevejohnson678 on May 29, 2017 16:59:22 GMT
Gutted that no one is mentioning the potential transfer of Exposure the Musical. Doesn't the cheeky grin of Michael Greco deserve its place on a theatre awning in the West End?!
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