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Post by anthony40 on Mar 22, 2017 18:46:36 GMT
I hope that all London based Theatreboard members are safe and weak, as I am
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Post by loureviews on Mar 22, 2017 19:04:49 GMT
It's a worry but hopefully it can be contained and it seems plans to lock down the area worked as planned.
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Post by viserys on Mar 22, 2017 19:06:30 GMT
I just want to give all of you Londoners and visitors currently in London a big hug.
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Mar 22, 2017 19:16:47 GMT
The show must go on, as King Freddie said.
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Post by Phantom of London on Mar 22, 2017 19:18:54 GMT
I have filled in a complaint form on the BBC website about their TV coverage....it is so disrespectful to show dead bodies (even covered over), people being treated by paramedics and people being taken to ambulances. And then random footage from people's mobile phones? And fatuous interviews with people who saw things...when did news reporting become so bad. What we actually need is not shots from helicopters but the facts that we know so far, any information that is useful (road closed, transport changes etc) and comment from people in authority. As far as travelling to London for theatre I refuse to let them win...I will carry on as normal. Sadly the hunger for drama supersedes taste and decency. I was watching Sky News about an hour after the attack in the hope that the dreadful but fascinating Kay Burley (no relation!) would turn up like the Angel of Death like she usually does, when the reporter said in hushed tones "there is a crisp edge of tension amongst the emergency services and police here at Westminster..." the camera then pans round to show a couple of ambulance men laughing, with their hands in their pockets. What happened is bad enough, we don't need the news media milking the drama out of it. Just stick to the facts please. They've stuck to the facts, I thought the BBC coverage has been first class. Unfortunately reporting the facts can be gruesome, they need to reflect the gravity of a very serious incident and a picture can say more than a thousand words. However the reality remains the same 4 people have lost their lives needlessly, as I said earlier because of some warped ideology.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2017 19:21:16 GMT
Awful incident, hopefully an isolated individual rather than a wider plot (as it seems from reports). But London as always keeps going, and quite right too, as said above, if everything stops, they win. So mourn the tragic losses, be thankful for those who escaped, and for those working to protect and keep going.
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Mar 22, 2017 19:41:15 GMT
Sadly the hunger for drama supersedes taste and decency. I was watching Sky News about an hour after the attack in the hope that the dreadful but fascinating Kay Burley (no relation!) would turn up like the Angel of Death like she usually does, when the reporter said in hushed tones "there is a crisp edge of tension amongst the emergency services and police here at Westminster..." the camera then pans round to show a couple of ambulance men laughing, with their hands in their pockets. What happened is bad enough, we don't need the news media milking the drama out of it. Just stick to the facts please. They've stuck to the facts, I thought the BBC coverage has been first class. Unfortunately reporting the facts can be gruesome, they need to reflect the gravity of a very serious incident and a picture can say more than a thousand words. However the reality remains the same 4 people have lost their lives needlessly, as I said earlier because of some warped ideology. I didn't see the BBC coverage. On Sky a photo was broadcast several times of someone either thrown or jumped off the bridge into one of the stairwells (wrong terminology for bridges, sorry) with twisted limbs and what looked like a bloody head which they fuzzed out. Not necessary.
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Post by CG on the loose on Mar 22, 2017 19:43:10 GMT
They've stuck to the facts, I thought the BBC coverage has been first class. Unfortunately reporting the facts can be gruesome, they need to reflect the gravity of a very serious incident and a picture can say more than a thousand words. It can - and they had plenty of pictures and footage that did just that. But showing photos of victims in which they are clearly identifiable to those who know them is, in my view, inexcusable in any circumstances. I've come to expect it from social media but I despair when national broadcasters stoop to the same level. These are real people who should be treated with the dignity and respect we would wish for our own loved ones. My thoughts with all whose lives have been forever altered by today's events. London, as it ever has, will lift its collective chin defiantly and keep on keeping on.
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Post by Tibidabo on Mar 22, 2017 19:54:14 GMT
John Sutherland @policecommander 3h3 hours ago
Dear Media, Please can you stop posting pictures/footage of my wounded colleague... Or of any of the injured. Thank you. 96 replies 2,546 retweets 3,660 likes
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Post by lynette on Mar 22, 2017 19:55:48 GMT
I was a little concerned about the news showing the people close to the event as their families might be trying to contact them. I think showing a dead body in a bag is fair frankly these days. We see worse in the news from Syria. This is a very sad event. But London is a prime target, always has been. I was here during the Irish bombing. Scary but we carried on. Then the 7/7 and people went on the tube the next day and went to work. I'm humble in the face of of what the police do and the medics. The police run towards potential danger.
There is something very special about London isn't there? Have a look at those films of the Blitz and just wonder how on earth they carried on.
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Post by Phantom of London on Mar 22, 2017 20:24:48 GMT
They've stuck to the facts, I thought the BBC coverage has been first class. Unfortunately reporting the facts can be gruesome, they need to reflect the gravity of a very serious incident and a picture can say more than a thousand words. It can - and they had plenty of pictures and footage that did just that. But showing photos of victims in which they are clearly identifiable to those who know them is, in my view, inexcusable in any circumstances. I've come to expect it from social media but I despair when national broadcasters stoop to the same level. These are real people who should be treated with the dignity and respect we would wish for our own loved ones. My thoughts with all whose lives have been forever altered by today's events. London, as it ever has, will lift its collective chin defiantly and keep on keeping on. Okay didn't realise they were showing faces, which is wrong. I didn't see any faces on the BBC. I was watching a documentary on BBC4 last night on what happens at Porton Down (The Laboratory of National Security), which was presented by Dr Michael Mosley (Trust Me, I'm a Doctor), most of you are are familiar with him, he was looking at chemical weapons and this brought it round full circle, as in a previous life he was a Editor on Newsnight, on his watch he had to report on the chemical genocide against the kurds in Northern Iraq, he said a lot what he saw couldn't be reported, on the grounds of decency. So the BBC are very judicious on what they report.
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Mar 22, 2017 20:33:48 GMT
I was a little concerned about the news showing the people close to the event as their families might be trying to contact them. I think showing a dead body in a bag is fair frankly these days. We see worse in the news from Syria. This is a very sad event. But London is a prime target, always has been. I was here during the Irish bombing. Scary but we carried on. Then the 7/7 and people went on the tube the next day and went to work. I'm humble in the face of of what the police do and the medics. The police run towards potential danger. There is something very special about London isn't there? Have a look at those films of the Blitz and just wonder how on earth they carried on. And Sheffield, and Coventry, Manchester, Southampton, Liverpool and all the others. No, there's nothing special about London in the Blitz. People carried on all over the country. It's just that the film crews didn't/couldn't go there.
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Post by thebearofwestend on Mar 22, 2017 20:47:45 GMT
I hope everyone is okay. Terrible News
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Post by longinthetooth on Mar 22, 2017 20:54:34 GMT
I too worked in London during the IRA bombings. In those days social media did not exist, of course, and often the first we knew of the latest bomb scare or atrocity was trying to get home and finding roads blocked or the Tube closed. Thankfully I was fortunate, and the nearest encounter I had was being held in the pedestrian tunnels midway between platform and entrance to the Tube while the police investigated a suspect package. Hot, claustrophobic and frightening, but we all got on with it and carried on as normal once released.
I agree totally that victims' faces should not be shown. I once complained to a local paper who posted a particular graphic photograph on Twitter of a car crash where someone died (the driver was trapped in the car), with the registration number clearly visible. To their partial credit they removed the picture from Twitter, but it didn't stop them from it featuring in the hard copy of the paper later in the week. I presume they thought that by then the family had been notified, so it would be all right. Hmm.
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Post by CG on the loose on Mar 22, 2017 21:57:48 GMT
The Beeb weren't showing faces, but unfortunately blurring the face on a close-up photograph of a seriously injured victim does not render them unrecognisable to those who love them. John Sutherland's tweet, shared above by Tibidabo, says it all really.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2017 3:26:17 GMT
Thankfully made it to wine o'clock with @ryan no problem. I can't believe the extent of this incident though. I wasn't meaning to overreact earlier asking if I am ok to travel into central, I have just never been in London when something like this has happened before haha.
On the media front, they really should not be showing some of the images. Not just the deceased, but even those injured on the bridge. The daily mail has pictures of people with puddles of blood surrounding them, it is horrible!
RIP to those who have sadly lost their lives today (not the attacker!) and thoughts and prayers to those injured and those family, friends, witnesses and, well, just everyone in the UK basically.
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Post by Jan on Mar 23, 2017 7:41:34 GMT
Best to avoid the Westminster area while it's on lockdown, especially if you're carrying a rucksack or wearing a heavy jacket. Remember what happened to Jean Charles de Menezez. They could do it to you too. Thank you for your fatuous "advice" and for identifying the police as the real danger in these situations.
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Post by vdcni on Mar 23, 2017 8:05:35 GMT
I was at Who's Afraid Of Virginia Woolf last night and perhaps the area was marginally quieter than normal but apart from a few extra police here and there, as ever, you wouldn't have been able to tell anything had happened. Inevitably the American right were claiming the city was shut down and Trump Jr showed he's just as hideous as his father with his tweet about the Mayor.
I thought the BBC coverage was genuinely pretty good but it's at times like these they pay the price for hiring such lightweights to present BBC Breakfast - they looked miles out of their depth this morning. Though across the board there seemed to be a rush to present this as the first terrorist attack since Lee Rigby, forgetting Jo Cox which is disappointing but unsurprising - the rush to present her killer as a disturbed loner and nothing to do with extreme right ideology clearly took hold.
Oh and agree about the de Menezez comment, clearly the police were at fault in that instance but there's a time and a place for that and that's not when a policeman has been killed doing his job.
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Post by stefy69 on Mar 23, 2017 8:05:52 GMT
Commuted into the City this morning and an increased police presence which I for one am glad about.
My heart goes out to the families and the survivors of yesterday's tragic, tragic events.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2017 10:41:45 GMT
Oh and agree about the de Menezez comment, clearly the police were at fault in that instance but there's a time and a place for that and that's not when a policeman has been killed doing his job. It was a serious comment. When the primary attacker had been downed but the scene was on lockdown with the possibility of further assailants, at the time I posted, this is the prime time for the real risk of another such incident.
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Post by Phantom of London on Mar 23, 2017 18:45:27 GMT
The biggest sufferers here except for the poor people directly involved who lost loved ones, or who had life changing injuries, are the wider Muslim community.
I have it in me and sure all of us do too, that the vast majority of Muslim people are law abiding people, who would absolutely find this abhorrent as we did and want to go about leading a decent life and there are a very very small minority that are brainwashed into a warped ideology, who then go on to do evil deeds. As we see in recent times, with the rise in the far right, there is a rising number of people who are happy to condemn the whole community, for the evil actions of a small minority.
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Post by infofreako on Mar 24, 2017 12:30:05 GMT
It was good to experience London continuing as normal last night. By the time we headed back to the station the whole area was reopened.
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Post by stefy69 on Apr 7, 2017 7:21:19 GMT
The BBC are just reporting that Andreea Cristea the Romanian lady who fell into the Thames during this awful incident has just passed away, tragic, tragic, tragic. Odihneasca-se in pace Andreea
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