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Post by theatregod on Oct 24, 2018 12:16:43 GMT
Any word on this tour extending and possibly coming to Aberdeen ?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2018 14:50:15 GMT
Any word on this tour extending and possibly coming to Aberdeen ? Edinburgh has been advertised as the only Scottish dates so sadly not. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2018 16:30:23 GMT
If they are registered deaf, you should get a good access rate for front stalls. They’re of the ‘suffer in silence’ variety, rather ironically. Don’t want to admit an aid to be of aid, so struggle though. |
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Post by theatregod on Oct 24, 2018 17:42:43 GMT
Any word on this tour extending and possibly coming to Aberdeen ? Edinburgh has been advertised as the only Scottish dates so sadly not. That’s a massive shame. :-( |
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Nov 5, 2018 22:35:47 GMT
At the interval tonight my companion said “well, I can’t see this one winning any awards” 😆
I have to say though, if I hadn’t known its pedigree I’d have been surprised too. It was ok but god those kids were screechy. And really there’s only one memorable (and admittedly brilliant) song in it.
Everyone worked massively hard but it didn’t really work for me. The audience was a bit lukewarm too.
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Post by pianowithsam on Nov 5, 2018 22:42:19 GMT
At the interval tonight my companion said “well, I can’t see this one winning any awards” 😆 I have to say though, if I hadn’t known its pedigree I’d have been surprised too. It was ok but god those kids were screechy. And really there’s only one memorable (and admittedly brilliant) song in it. Everyone worked massively hard but it didn’t really work for me. The audience was a bit lukewarm too. ⭐️⭐️.5 Is this a reflection of the show in general or this production? Seen Matilda twice in the West End and catching the tour next June. Just wondering. |
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Nov 5, 2018 22:59:30 GMT
Never saw it in the West End but apparently it’s not been downsized for the tour so you’re not going to be disappointed there although I wasn’t hugely impressed by the set or design. And there’s a lot of design going on with that set, sadly most of it does nothing.
I’ve only seen the film before, haven’t read the book. I was expecting more magic and special effects. I guess the show may be more truthful to the novel and maybe the film ramped up the telekinesis stuff?
The adult cast are fine, the parents in particular playing it up hugely, almost to the point of panto. Trunchbull was ok, but so much a man in a dress that it kind of distracted a bit. Is that how it’s always played?
I guess my main problem was the children, evil old goat that I am 🙂. The words really were barely audible a great deal of the time. I think I actually winced in a couple of occasions. Matilda spoke the dialogue as though reading from a book.. again is this how the role is usually played? Obviously she’s supposed to be a very serious little girl and a bookworm but is that demonstrated by her speaking like she’s telling a story?
It’s probably just me. Roald Dahl isn’t my generation and I have no connection with him whatsoever. I’d left school by the time Matilda came out. Maybe I’m just not the audience for it.
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Post by duncan on Nov 6, 2018 8:09:31 GMT
I saw it in 2012 and the sound mix was awful then with a lot of the lyrics being drowned out by a bombastic orchestration.
As for the show itself, well I'd never read the book or seen the film and found the show to be an enjoyable if forgettable night out. It is a show that has one legendary song that carries the rest of the production to a greater height than the material deserves although it does sound like you got a dud Matilda - just listen to the original soundtrack and you should hear a marked difference in how its performed by Matilda.
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Post by Michael on Nov 6, 2018 9:22:20 GMT
And really there’s only one memorable (and admittedly brilliant) song in it. It is a show that has one legendary song Just wondering if it's the same song you two are talking about. Personally, I think there are three great (School Song, When I Grow Up and Revolting Children) and two good (Quiet, My House) songs in it. |
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Post by LaLuPone on Nov 6, 2018 9:24:03 GMT
Surely Naughty is also a standout song?
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Post by Michael on Nov 6, 2018 9:30:53 GMT
Surely Naughty is also a standout song? One I can't stand - that's why I started my list with "personally"  |
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Nov 6, 2018 9:45:01 GMT
And really there’s only one memorable (and admittedly brilliant) song in it. It is a show that has one legendary song Just wondering if it's the same song you two are talking about. Personally, I think there are three great (School Song, When I Grow Up and Revolting Children) and two good (Quiet, My House) songs in it. I was talking about When I Grow Up. I could actually hear the lyrics because they were singing it and not shout/screeching it. The Revolting one, the only words I could make out were Revolting and Children. The rest was lost sadly. We were in the front stalls too so could see the little angels faces clearly. I did love the bit with the chocolate cake, that was very well done. The gymnasium scene looked a bit sparse on kids, have they reduced the cast? It really needed a procession of kids jumping across the equipment but there were only three or four. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2018 13:17:16 GMT
Never saw it in the West End but apparently it’s not been downsized for the tour so you’re not going to be disappointed there although I wasn’t hugely impressed by the set or design. And there’s a lot of design going on with that set, sadly most of it does nothing. I’ve only seen the film before, haven’t read the book. I was expecting more magic and special effects. I guess the show may be more truthful to the novel and maybe the film ramped up the telekinesis stuff? The adult cast are fine, the parents in particular playing it up hugely, almost to the point of panto. Trunchbull was ok, but so much a man in a dress that it kind of distracted a bit. Is that how it’s always played? I guess my main problem was the children, evil old goat that I am 🙂. The words really were barely audible a great deal of the time. I think I actually winced in a couple of occasions. Matilda spoke the dialogue as though reading from a book.. again is this how the role is usually played? Obviously she’s supposed to be a very serious little girl and a bookworm but is that demonstrated by her speaking like she’s telling a story? It’s probably just me. Roald Dahl isn’t my generation and I have no connection with him whatsoever. I’d left school by the time Matilda came out. Maybe I’m just not the audience for it. Just like with Charlie & the Chocolate Factory, this is another instance here of people seeing a movie adaption of a book and expecting the movie on stage. Like CACF, Matilda the musical is an adaption of the book and I don't think its fair to compare and expect the movie on stage. Does sounds like you got the b-cast on tour. Monday night too so normally audiences are depleted in atmosphere which doesn't help. Trunchball should not be distractedly drag. Previous Trunchball's I've seen have been fierce and menacing, not to mention almost androgynous. It's a fine line but played wrong I can see how it would end up looking like a a man in drag. I've always found Matilda's to be well spoken and possibly a little 'drama school'-ed, coaching obvious etc. I think that's always the risk with kids in principal roles, Matilda is a book worm though, obsessed with stories (as they're her escape from her dull and awful home life) so for her to speak "like she's telling a story" would make sense. Sound does seem to be an ongoing issue with this show. Waiting until I see this tour until I pass full judgement, but the times I've seen it in London there has been points the kids overly enforced diction has been lost during songs, through no fault of the kids. I don't think Tim Minchin's writing helps the situation. The songs are very clever lyrically and musically, but the complexity can be incredibly difficult to understand when sang by kids with forced enunciation. Songs like The School Song is genius lyrically but unless you know the source material it gets completely lost in translation on stage. |
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Post by David J on Nov 6, 2018 14:45:24 GMT
It’s not just the songs that are inaudible at times. I gave up trying to listen to the circus bits during the escapologist story
As much as I love the musical the audibility puts me off seeing this again
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2018 14:51:16 GMT
It’s not just the songs that are inaudible at times. I gave up trying to listen to the circus bits during the escapologist story As much as I love the musical the audibility puts me off seeing this again And then there's the first half of Miracle that sounds almost acapella the band are that quiet. There's instrumentalists credited that you never even hear during the show. |
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Nov 6, 2018 16:28:05 GMT
I think £77 for a top price seat is a bit much for a show that appears to have well documented sound issues.
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Post by wickedgrin on Nov 6, 2018 18:13:15 GMT
I've seen this show once in London and LOATHED it! I suppose this view should be put in the unpopular opinion thread!
I too, could not hear a single word those stage school kids were saying or singing. All that screaming and stomping around! I know why I am not a fan of kids on stage!
The prices for the tour for this are outrageously high too.
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Post by pianowithsam on Nov 6, 2018 19:46:21 GMT
Never saw it in the West End but apparently it’s not been downsized for the tour so you’re not going to be disappointed there although I wasn’t hugely impressed by the set or design. And there’s a lot of design going on with that set, sadly most of it does nothing. I’ve only seen the film before, haven’t read the book. I was expecting more magic and special effects. I guess the show may be more truthful to the novel and maybe the film ramped up the telekinesis stuff? The adult cast are fine, the parents in particular playing it up hugely, almost to the point of panto. Trunchbull was ok, but so much a man in a dress that it kind of distracted a bit. Is that how it’s always played? I guess my main problem was the children, evil old goat that I am 🙂. The words really were barely audible a great deal of the time. I think I actually winced in a couple of occasions. Matilda spoke the dialogue as though reading from a book.. again is this how the role is usually played? Obviously she’s supposed to be a very serious little girl and a bookworm but is that demonstrated by her speaking like she’s telling a story? It’s probably just me. Roald Dahl isn’t my generation and I have no connection with him whatsoever. I’d left school by the time Matilda came out. Maybe I’m just not the audience for it. Yeah, a lot of the set doesn't do anything. Same as West End. Isn't the worst I've seen though, trust me. The movie DOES exaggerate the whole magic powers, in my opinion anyway. I personally thought the show did highlight it to their best ability but compared to the movie, it's not to the same level. Yeah, always played by a man. One of the times that I went to the West End production, Craig Els was playing trunchbull (same guy as on the tour). I liked him and thought he was excellent. The one that I saw previously was slightly better though. Wouldn't fault nevertheless. I'm a massive fan of Roald Dahl, which probably makes a difference. Loved Charlie in the West End, which contrasted with many peoples' opinions. |
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Post by pianowithsam on Nov 6, 2018 19:47:46 GMT
Never saw it in the West End but apparently it’s not been downsized for the tour so you’re not going to be disappointed there although I wasn’t hugely impressed by the set or design. And there’s a lot of design going on with that set, sadly most of it does nothing. I’ve only seen the film before, haven’t read the book. I was expecting more magic and special effects. I guess the show may be more truthful to the novel and maybe the film ramped up the telekinesis stuff? The adult cast are fine, the parents in particular playing it up hugely, almost to the point of panto. Trunchbull was ok, but so much a man in a dress that it kind of distracted a bit. Is that how it’s always played? I guess my main problem was the children, evil old goat that I am 🙂. The words really were barely audible a great deal of the time. I think I actually winced in a couple of occasions. Matilda spoke the dialogue as though reading from a book.. again is this how the role is usually played? Obviously she’s supposed to be a very serious little girl and a bookworm but is that demonstrated by her speaking like she’s telling a story? It’s probably just me. Roald Dahl isn’t my generation and I have no connection with him whatsoever. I’d left school by the time Matilda came out. Maybe I’m just not the audience for it. Just like with Charlie & the Chocolate Factory, this is another instance here of people seeing a movie adaption of a book and expecting the movie on stage. Like CACF, Matilda the musical is an adaption of the book and I don't think its fair to compare and expect the movie on stage. Does sounds like you got the b-cast on tour. Monday night too so normally audiences are depleted in atmosphere which doesn't help. Trunchball should not be distractedly drag. Previous Trunchball's I've seen have been fierce and menacing, not to mention almost androgynous. It's a fine line but played wrong I can see how it would end up looking like a a man in drag. I've always found Matilda's to be well spoken and possibly a little 'drama school'-ed, coaching obvious etc. I think that's always the risk with kids in principal roles, Matilda is a book worm though, obsessed with stories (as they're her escape from her dull and awful home life) so for her to speak "like she's telling a story" would make sense. Sound does seem to be an ongoing issue with this show. Waiting until I see this tour until I pass full judgement, but the times I've seen it in London there has been points the kids overly enforced diction has been lost during songs, through no fault of the kids. I don't think Tim Minchin's writing helps the situation. The songs are very clever lyrically and musically, but the complexity can be incredibly difficult to understand when sang by kids with forced enunciation. Songs like The School Song is genius lyrically but unless you know the source material it gets completely lost in translation on stage. When are you seeing it? |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2018 19:48:55 GMT
At some point yet to be determined whilst it's still in MCR - so before Nov 24th |
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Post by pianowithsam on Nov 6, 2018 19:53:48 GMT
At some point yet to be determined whilst it's still in MCR - so before Nov 24th Oh, cool. Wanted to hear your opinion before I see it. Going in June, lol, so can expect to hear your opinion by then  |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2018 20:02:59 GMT
At some point yet to be determined whilst it's still in MCR - so before Nov 24th Oh, cool. Wanted to hear your opinion before I see it. Going in June, lol, so can expect to hear your opinion by then Aha cool. You should just about have some feedback by then. Although alot can happen in 6 months! |
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Post by pianowithsam on Nov 6, 2018 22:49:06 GMT
Oh, cool. Wanted to hear your opinion before I see it. Going in June, lol, so can expect to hear your opinion by then Aha cool. You should just about have some feedback by then. Although alot can happen in 6 months! Indeed, lol. Seen it West End twice and loved it so doubt I'll hate it. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2018 9:40:36 GMT
Anyone seen this from the Stalls and done a head count on how many muso's in the pit?
Or
Anyone got a programme for the UK run able to confirm how many musicians credited in the orchestra?
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Post by theatregod on Nov 20, 2018 13:42:59 GMT
...same as London.
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