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Post by cheesy116 on Aug 13, 2017 16:07:10 GMT
Is Ruth Brown basically never coming back? Ruth got let go for an unspecified reason and I'll presume we will never find out |
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Post by kulen on Aug 13, 2017 16:19:05 GMT
Amber's holidays have being changed, I don't know how to insert the screenshot but you can check on the website  |
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Post by daniel on Aug 13, 2017 16:34:27 GMT
Amber's holidays have being changed, I don't know how to insert the screenshot but you can check on the website I use the Tapatalk app to post images & GIFs   |
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Post by ali973 on Aug 13, 2017 16:50:27 GMT
I really wanna see Karen, and could on the 27th matinee, but there's no way of knowing who's on it is there.
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Post by kulen on Aug 13, 2017 17:28:48 GMT
I really wanna see Karen, and could on the 27th matinee, but there's no way of knowing who's on it is there. Message marisha on her social media and ask if she's on, if she isn't Karen is. she is very good with her fans on social media!! |
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Post by AliceFearnFan2212 on Aug 15, 2017 2:22:40 GMT
Marisha basically confirmed tonight that she or Karen now do 3 shows a week now, Monday's, Wednesday & Saturday Matinee! So Amber is now scheduled to do 5 out of 8 shows a week!
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Post by HereForTheatre on Aug 15, 2017 8:40:42 GMT
is amber back?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2017 9:01:57 GMT
She wasn't on last night. |
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Post by theatremadness on Aug 15, 2017 9:22:44 GMT
She wasn't on last night. Monday is one of her actual set days off (whatever that means anymore!) so I guess we'll see if she's back tonight! |
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Post by kulen on Aug 15, 2017 10:23:30 GMT
She wasn't on last night. Monday is one of her actual set days off (whatever that means anymore!) so I guess we'll see if she's back tonight! Extremely poor attendance from her I must admit. Really unproffesional from her, people are expecting to see her |
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Post by theatremadness on Aug 15, 2017 10:31:40 GMT
Monday is one of her actual set days off (whatever that means anymore!) so I guess we'll see if she's back tonight! Extremely poor attendance from her I must admit. Really unproffesional from her, people are expecting to see her As well as Monkey's very valid point about Amber's pneumonia at the beginning of the run (which, if I remember correctly, someone said could take 6 months to recover from.....that's if you're not playing Effie White, for crying out loud!), but also if you look towards the bottom of page 186 of this thread, you'll see an instagram post from Amber that also may account for her absence, with a reason that is far more important than doing a show. I'd always steer well clear of making harsh assumptions about a someone/something and branding people "unprofessional" if you've absolutely no idea of the full context of the story. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2017 10:33:31 GMT
Monday is one of her actual set days off (whatever that means anymore!) so I guess we'll see if she's back tonight! Extremely poor attendance from her I must admit. Really unproffesional from her, people are expecting to see her She's been ill and clearly recently lost someone very close to her, so I think your post is extremely distasteful and entirely lacking in empathy. Maybe think a bit more and actually bother to investigate the situation properly before you jump to criticise next time, as it doesn't reflect well on you at all. And I'm not going to start this debate again as it's already been had several times, but the simple fact is that people are responsible for managing their own expectations and if they've got a heightened sense of entitlement then it's their own fault as far as I'm concerned. Their ticket guarantees them the show, not Amber. |
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Post by kulen on Aug 15, 2017 11:08:41 GMT
Extremely poor attendance from her I must admit. Really unproffesional from her, people are expecting to see her She's been ill and clearly recently lost someone very close to her, so I think your post is extremely distasteful and entirely lacking in empathy. Maybe think a bit more and actually bother to investigate the situation properly before you jump to criticise next time, as it doesn't reflect well on you at all. And I'm not going to start this debate again as it's already been had several times, but the simple fact is that people are responsible for managing their own expectations and if they've got a heightened sense of entitlement then it's their own fault as far as I'm concerned. Their ticket guarantees them the show, not Amber. I didn't make distasteful, if it did sorry. But your purely speculating over her health no facts, she was sick but we don't know if she has recovered , again speculation. We don't even know why she is off, only speculation so mabye your being distasteful ? |
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Post by HereForTheatre on Aug 15, 2017 11:14:42 GMT
We do know she hasn't recovered....because you don't just magically recover from what she had and thinks instantly go back to being hunky dory. It takes months to fully get over it, especially when your job is belting out songs.
I'd probably suggest this partly comes from a place of you rather liking one of the alternates....
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Post by kulen on Aug 15, 2017 11:42:44 GMT
We do know she hasn't recovered....because you don't just magically recover from what she had and thinks instantly go back to being hunky dory. It takes months to fully get over it, especially when your job is belting out songs. I'd probably suggest this partly comes from a place of you rather liking one of the alternates.... Nope. I love amber as Effie White however it's not right for the paying costumer who wants to see her to get no answer whatsoever over where she is, newsflash people 99% of the time go to see the leads. |
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Post by kulen on Aug 15, 2017 11:43:28 GMT
We do know she hasn't recovered....because you don't just magically recover from what she had and thinks instantly go back to being hunky dory. It takes months to fully get over it, especially when your job is belting out songs. I'd probably suggest this partly comes from a place of you rather liking one of the alternates.... It's a big statement saying that she hasn't recovered when you don't know 😭 |
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Post by danb on Aug 15, 2017 11:59:51 GMT
We do know she hasn't recovered....because you don't just magically recover from what she had and thinks instantly go back to being hunky dory. It takes months to fully get over it, especially when your job is belting out songs. I'd probably suggest this partly comes from a place of you rather liking one of the alternates.... Nope. I love amber as Effie White however it's not right for the paying costumer who wants to see her to get no answer whatsoever over where she is, newsflash people 99% of the time go to see the leads. This may well be the case, but you have no legal right to see anyone from a cast and your lack of respect for performers is very telling. |
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Post by daniel on Aug 15, 2017 12:03:20 GMT
I can't speak for the other 7,000 or so people who see Dreamgirls each week, but I know I'd rather see a healthy alternate than a poorly Amber with no voice.
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Post by kulen on Aug 15, 2017 12:16:00 GMT
Nope. I love amber as Effie White however it's not right for the paying costumer who wants to see her to get no answer whatsoever over where she is, newsflash people 99% of the time go to see the leads. This may well be the case, but you have no legal right to see anyone from a cast and your lack of respect for performers is very telling. Your v wrong. I am very respectful for the performers. Why am I getting attacked as being a bad person when all I am doing is voicing my opinion?? |
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Aug 15, 2017 12:33:20 GMT
Mystic Burly *curtseys* said from the start she wouldn't finish the run.
The reason is irrelevant. I just knew she wouldn't.
No running down the strand in my undercrackers for this one!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2017 13:36:52 GMT
She's been ill and clearly recently lost someone very close to her, so I think your post is extremely distasteful and entirely lacking in empathy. Maybe think a bit more and actually bother to investigate the situation properly before you jump to criticise next time, as it doesn't reflect well on you at all. And I'm not going to start this debate again as it's already been had several times, but the simple fact is that people are responsible for managing their own expectations and if they've got a heightened sense of entitlement then it's their own fault as far as I'm concerned. Their ticket guarantees them the show, not Amber. I didn't make distasteful, if it did sorry. But your purely speculating over her health no facts, she was sick but we don't know if she has recovered , again speculation. We don't even know why she is off, only speculation so mabye your being distasteful ? Like I said, investigate the facts before you post: It is a fact that Amber had pneumonia. It is a fact that pneumonia is an illness that takes a significant amount of time to regain full health even when a person's job isn't singing a challenging musical theatre score 5 days out of 7. It is a fact that Amber had recently lost someone very close and dear to her - see her own Instagram for that one. You have nothing to prove that she is fully recovered, and your claim that people are entitled to see her is just plain wrong as a matter of fact - this isn't Broadway, there's no concept of over the title refunds as a general rule (and Amber isn't over the title in any event). It doesn't take much to give someone the benefit of the doubt rather than jumping to conclusions that allow you to criticise that person. Unfortunately your post did the latter. |
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Post by daniel on Aug 15, 2017 13:50:04 GMT
Amber now down to 5 shows per week. Karen/Marisha doing Monday night, Wednesday matinee and Saturday matinee. From the official websites.
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Post by kulen on Aug 15, 2017 14:00:41 GMT
I didn't make distasteful, if it did sorry. But your purely speculating over her health no facts, she was sick but we don't know if she has recovered , again speculation. We don't even know why she is off, only speculation so mabye your being distasteful ? Like I said, investigate the facts before you post: It is a fact that Amber had pneumonia. It is a fact that pneumonia is an illness that takes a significant amount of time to regain full health even when a person's job isn't singing a challenging musical theatre score 5 days out of 7. It is a fact that Amber had recently lost someone very close and dear to her - see her own Instagram for that one. You have nothing to prove that she is fully recovered, and your claim that people are entitled to see her is just plain wrong as a matter of fact - this isn't Broadway, there's no concept of over the title refunds as a general rule (and Amber isn't over the title in any event). It doesn't take much to give someone the benefit of the doubt rather than jumping to conclusions that allow you to criticise that person. Unfortunately your post did the latter. Are you an expert? What makes you qualified to make you 'right' about this so called investigation |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2017 14:31:11 GMT
I think it is something that was always inevitable. And it very much seems as though they are slowly bringing Marisha in to take over rather than do so in November. Marisha does pretty much every performance Amber doesn't bar when Karen was initally contracted to do so.
It doesn't bother me really, i've had no desire to see Amber really at all. Especially since apparently Marisha is better in the role as an actress which I always prefer. And I've had friends who have seen Amber out and about in London shopping and looking fine when she was due to be on, so I've been giving her the side-eye for a long while.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2017 15:14:42 GMT
Are you an expert? What makes you qualified to make you 'right' about this so called investigation I didn't say anything about right or wrong, I'm talking about the distinction between fact and opinion, and between accurate facts and inaccurate ones. All I've done is correct broad assumptions and inaccurate claims in your posts, and all it takes to do that is 5 minutes of time, the ability to read the thread and Instagram and an ok memory. No expert knowledge whatsoever. Anyway, this whole exchange is going nowhere and you're just getting defensive so I'm out. All I asked was for you to have a bit of empathy for Amber and check your claims are right before you post. If you don't want to do that then that's up to you, but if you don't then I don't see how you can be surprised to be challenged on them. |
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